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Also, I'd prefer my email address be listed as [EMAIL PROTECTED],
as I'll be transferring my devlist membership to that address soon.
Done.
I'd make the changes myself, but I don't have that kind of CVS
Response below (one of these glorious days, I can stop using Outlook...)
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FOP is ultimately a
And perhaps me for complaints about infinite loops and general irritation? ;)
Also, I'd prefer my email address be listed as [EMAIL PROTECTED], as I'll be
transferring my devlist membership to that address soon.
I'd make the changes myself, but I don't have that kind of CVS access. ;)
Maybe I'm missing some major point...if you're embedding FOP in an application, why
are you using that part of the code? There are other parts of the FOP API designed
for embedding FOP in your code.
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Just a sort of general CVS question...does anyone know if there's a CVS client out
there somewhere that works from behind a proxy? My home network, for various reasons,
can't be configured for NAT, so I have to instead run a proxy server and give my
machines limited Internet access via the
: source for hz algorithm
Rhett,
Discussion of the actual algorithms would be of general interest, I think.
Peter
Rhett Aultman wrote:
My girlfriend just located both volumes at the University of Central Florida library
and is bringing them home for me to peruse.
Vic, why don't you email me
Peter,
This brings back to light the possibility of needing to do multipass layout, doesn't
it? I had suggested something along these lines previously.
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Grrr...still I struggle with Outlook. I'm giving real thought to setting myself up
with a new POP account and using a web client so that at least I can format emails the
way I want.
Responses below...
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From: Keiron Liddle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday,
Any attempt FOP has at laying rules for layout is going to be applying heuristics. It
would be interesting to be able to expose the heuristics and allow for programmer/user
control of them. Still, until more of this materializes, I think we're getting famous
French mathematicians before the
Here's what I was able to scrounge up...
This first page has a couple posts from the TeX crowd about this and a list of
relevant works. This may aid in a follow up
http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~aslakr/hz.html
This appears to be a short copy of Zapf's original paper on the HZ program:
My girlfriend just located both volumes at the University of Central Florida library
and is bringing them home for me to peruse.
Vic, why don't you email me privately so we can discuss this?
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Isn't that lt; and gt; just like in HTML?
I think...
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Subject: characters and
Hi All,
How can i print the characters and without FOP
Title: Integration of Peter's work
If
clear documentation of what needs to be done can be produced, I'm willing to
offer my time to it, too, though I don't know if my not having R/W access to the
CVS would make me an unsuitable candidate.
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of Peter's work
On 23.01.2003 16:07:24 Rhett Aultman wrote:
Doing anything is why I have volunteered to help integrate Peter's
work. It seems like the sort of thing I could do without excessive
domain knowledge and like something I can do while I keep an eye on the
layout system and while
You should probably check out our docs on embedding FOP:
http://xml.apache.org/fop/embedding.html
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Hi,
I´m
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Subject: Overconstraint Anomalous documents page in Wiki
Foppers,
I've
Title: FOP performance - frustrating.. help!!
Really, what rows look like in XML is not helpful to us. What is
helpful is seeing the FO, since FOP tranforms from the FO and not really from
the XML. You may be using FO markup that's making the transformation and
rendering costly, but we
Title: JforIntegrationInFop - background and guidelines
Foppers,
I've
added a page to the Wiki in an attempt to put all of our previous discussion and
what documentation I can find regarding overconstraint, anomalous documents,
etc. It's located at:
Title: FOP wiki pages moved
Just a
heads-up...I cleaned up the layout of the FopTasks page to make it more easily
read and I also suggested two new tasks to be included in the layout manager
portion...I would have added them on my own, but I felt it best to propose and
permit voting. Anyone
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
+1
with much enthusiasm. I'm quite happy to call myself a developer of this
team.
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Holidays
Keiron
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Victor, I
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Sure, in a narrow
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Keiron Liddle wrote:
These are the issues that you have mentioned before.
It is still essentially only attacking
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I previously said:
My personal problems
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Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 5:27 PM
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Subject: Redesign issues
This is the question that everyone has to answer. Blind faith that that
the problem can be solved by simply hurling onself
.
Peter
Rhett Aultman wrote:
Hmmm...maybe we could use a JVM profiler like jProf
(http://starship.python.net/crew/garyp/jProf.html) for this?
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Hmmm...maybe we could use a JVM profiler like jProf
(http://starship.python.net/crew/garyp/jProf.html) for this?
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Subject: Re: Alt-Design: Preliminary results
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Huh? Never
I posted a patch for bug #8778 into bugzilla. I hope I did the diffing right...first
time and all. The fix corrects bug #8778 (and possibly one other, but I'm not sure)
and does not affect the examples (as far as I can tell).
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This is not a problem for at least the maintenance version of the code.
All of the processing
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Actually, it really
Guys,
I finally got myself out from under my grad school apps long enough to employ a patch
that helps nerf certain kinds of infinite loops in the maintenance branch of FOP. I'd
like to see it go into the final release of the maintenance branch, but I don't know
if I'll have time to give
Completely generalized and probably worthless response below. ;)
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Peter B. West wrote:
I don't believe is is
Responses below.
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From: Keiron Liddle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:08 AM
To: FOP
Subject: RE: Getting breaks: revisited
Hi Rhett,
On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 16:44, Rhett Aultman wrote:
I may be green, but I did spot some of this a couple
Responses below.
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From: Keiron Liddle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:11 AM
To: FOP
Subject: RE: Getting breaks: revisited
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 14:20, Rhett Aultman wrote:
No, in the design the best break cannot be before the block
It's my understanding that, for certain object types, the compiler can use final
designation as a flag for further optimizations and so it actually might be a wise
idea to do. If nothing else, I remember reading an interview with James Gosling on
object mutability, a compiler optimization
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Subject: Re: Style guide (update)
re TBD section
1. strongy encourage m_ for instance variables, if only to eliminate
having to
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From: Keiron Liddle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: RE: Getting breaks: revisited
I can't really see what you could find out on a first pass that does not
do some sort of layout. I suppose it is a
I thought everyone was allowed to use a vote to express their opinion. If I've
gravely mistaken this, then I'll stop voting.
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Respone below.
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Subject: RE: Getting breaks: revisited
On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 09:21, Rhett Aultman wrote:
What if, instead, two passes were taken? The first pass would
Response below.
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Keiron Liddle wrote:
I could just do it, special cases can use special techniques provided it
It's
my understanding that none of the things you've mentioned are actually part of
the FO standard, since FO doesn't deal with the possible rendering formats that
FO can be translated to. How could any of the things you mentioned be
applicable to an AWT rendering or a text rendering? I
Response Below.
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Victor Mote wrote:
It seems to me that there are (at least) two approaches: 1. A leaf on the
tree
Comments below.
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From: Keiron Liddle [mailto:keiron;aftexsw.com]
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 3:30 AM
To: FOP
Subject: Getting breaks: revisited
The current way that breaks are found with the layout managers has a
couple of problems.
Currently the information is
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From: Victor Mote [mailto:vic;outfitr.com]
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 1:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Getting breaks: revisited
Just to be clear, I should point out that there is not a layout that is
impossible to perform. The standard
I still think it's critical that we put some time into working on the infinite looping
that seems to be happening with certain layouts. Yeah...they're often unrenderable,
but an infinite loop can mean a restart of Tomcat or jBoss or a similar large server
environment.
I have a bug related to
could
be handled transparently within the Tree.
Peter
Rhett Aultman wrote:
Mostly it was for caching benefits. As I said, though, I haven't read enough code
to know. I just thought I'd throw it out as a possibile way to save on memory usage
when FOP processes large documents. *shrug
I wasn't suggesting using them because they're sexy. Personally, I don't use
Reference objects unless they can't be avoided. However, collections that use
WeakReferences can be a serious help. Essentially, they can help ensure object
cleanup in a more timely fashion than traditional
Something like what you're describing might be doable with SoftReference objects.
Basically, you could consider a SoftReference to be much like a regular reference
except that, whereas the GC must respect regular references at all times, it's allowed
to ignore SoftReferences when it's trying
Gang,
Who here keeps tabs on mailing list administration? I have a frustrated
user/developer who's trying to post to the list. He says he's subscribed to the list
but now he's having trouble posting to it. Is there someone on here I could refer him
to?
I wholeheartedly agree. This is really just good style in general.
Maybe we should seriously consider a FOP developer coding standard and start writing
it down and putting it on the site. I'd offer to help with that.
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From: Jeremias Maerki
Well, if he needs help getting it done, I'm available.
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From: Oleg Tkachenko [mailto:olegt;multiconn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: interface instead of implementation
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Maybe a minimal
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Subject: FOP developer's style guide? (Was: interface instead of
implementation)
On Wednesday 06 November 2002 16:31, Rhett Aultman wrote:
. . .
Maybe we should seriously consider a FOP developer coding standard and
start writing it down and putting it on the site. I'd offer to help
You mentioned HashMaps briefly here. I suppose I could try auditing the code and
answering my own question here, but I have very little free time in general.
(Hopefully, I'll have more free time after Saturday...I've spent a lot of time for
weeks studying for the GRE). So, I'll just ask- has
they get swept away by the GC. Good for keeping
images and fonts in memory, but for overall FOP I don't see any use case.
Or can anyone think of another one?
On 06.11.2002 18:16:47 Rhett Aultman wrote:
You mentioned HashMaps briefly here. I suppose I could try auditing the
code and answering my own
. I do have
a means of showing this, I believe.
-Original Message-
From: Keiron Liddle [mailto:keiron;aftexsw.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:46 AM
To: FOP
Subject: Re: Fix for bug #8778
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 16:42, Rhett Aultman wrote:
Foppers,
I've implemented some code
Guys,
Color me ignorant or just plain dumb, but the fop-0.20.4rc-src.tar.gz file doesn't
seem to have any .java files in it that I can see. Just .class files. Did I
seriously miss something here?
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That's a fair timetable. I have the GRE on Nov. 9th, but after that will have more
time to think clearly (he says knowing full well that after the GRE comes writing the
CV, collecting letters of recommendation, and begging for an RA). A failsafe on the
infinite layout loop should be done by
Responses below.
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From: J.Pietschmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: fonts
Victor Mote wrote:
OK, here is a related question that does not appear to be an FAQ (per my
review of FOP, Batik, and
Indeed. I'm working on the infinite loop issue in FOP (when I get time to), so if I
saw the actual FO document (your XML after having a stylesheet applied), I could
probably tell you what's going wrong in minutes.
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From: Oleg Tkachenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
It's worth noting that the infinite loop fix for the Maintenance branch will not be a
fix in the sense that the LayoutManagers will find a layout that prevents looping.
All the fix is going to do is handle breaking the infinite loop. Thus, it's highly
suggested that anyone encountering an
I think struggling might be understating it, at least for me. Kull Wahad! Why does
the work come in faster than time? I think I smell the secret to hyperspace here...
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From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:07 PM
To:
Title: BARCODE
If you
made the barcode a graphic, you could embed it.
-Original Message-From: Surov Maxim
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Hi!
Is it possible to embed barcodes
into PDF using
Title: Nachricht
Easiest way I can think of- cut out the first half of the table
content. See ifrendering breaks. If it doesn't, then the
problem is in the second half of the table content, so focus on that. Keep
paring out half of your table content until you've either found the content
Title: Nachricht
Run
your XML file and XSL file through the XT program found here: http://www.blnz.com/xt/index.html
This
should give you an XSLT result. The resulting information should be a
purely FO document so that any of us could immediately run it in FOP and see
what's what.
10:26 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: AW:
large tables loop problem
this
program does't seem to work for me,
i
always get an error "character not allowed"...
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----Von: Rhett Aultman
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2.
If you don't mind my asking, why do you need to put an event model on page breaks?
There may be other solutions available if we knew what you were trying to achieve
overall.
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Well, if page breaking interests you, you could help me with resolving a page breaking
issue in the FOP maintenance branch. Contact me privately ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
and I'll explain.
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Title: Nachricht
I'm
actually trying to shore up this from happening, but it won't address your
situation, since my patch simply terminates the endless loop rather than
necessarily finding and making splits more aggressively.
Could
you post a copy of the FO data that is triggering the
To the best of my knowledge, FOP is a Formatting Objects processor and renderer.
There isn't a subproject in this group for a WYSIWIG FO editor. It would seem we're
up to our gills in work working on FOP already. I'm certain that there's a desire out
there for a free, open-source WYSIWIG FO
Foppers,
I've implemented some code in the TextLayoutManager that keeps an eye on the TLM's
lack of progress in laying out its content and that, after 100 repeated attempts with
no progress, gives up the ghost, assuming that, after 100 tries with no progress,
chances are good that it's going
Comments below. [stinking outlook!]
-Original Message-
From: J.Pietschmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fix for bug #8778
Rhett Aultman wrote:
I think this is a waste: in a page master sequence you have
A little musing on the infinite loop issue...
It seems that, for the most part, each layout manager turns predominately to its
children LMs to see what they're up to. As a result, it's not easy to spot at a high
level (ala the PageLayoutManager) that some singular element is holding the
Sounds reasonable. Depending on certain things, though, the system classloader might
not be able to find the classes. I asked the guy in charge of deployment at my
workplace where we kept FOP under Apache 4.0.4, and he said we kept it in Apache's
common-lib folder, so perhaps the best way to
I'm having a very involved working weekend this weekend, and I'm writing my list of
things to do. There's some openings in it, and I thought I might tackle the infinite
loop that occurs in the page breaking test as has been documented in some previous
bugs in our Bugzilla. Before I settled
it's needed
I'm not sure when I became a classloader expert, but I won't complain. ;)
-Original Message-
From: Christian Geisert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 2:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Page breaking infinite loop
Rhett Aultman schrieb:
I'm
Rewriting FOP in C++ is not impossible, though it may be quite difficult. I'm really
not sure what the rest of your questions are, but I'd say it's going to take you quite
a while to complete a project like that, and if your boss is telling you and you alone
to rewrite FOP in C++, and you are
would say
Take existing, make faster, short time to market! This can't be real.
-M
On Tuesday, August 13, 2002, at 05:28 AM, Rhett Aultman wrote:
Rewriting FOP in C++ is not impossible, though it may be quite
difficult. I'm really not sure what the rest of your questions
Heh...just give me some time. We might get Java 1.1 compatibility dynamically loaded
yet. ;)
-Original Message-
From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PDF Viewer] Utility request
Victor,
The IAC, by this
Yes, it's called Acrobat Reader. What's being requested is something a little more
tightly integrated to FOP.
BTW, I think it's great that MacOSX creates PDF files when you opt to print to a file.
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From: Mark Malone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
I see FOP's role as being a data transformer first and foremost. We may want to
consider packaging a PDF viewer with FOP, but I'd recommend against putting it *IN*
FOP.
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From: RamanaJV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:47 PM
To: [EMAIL
jProf is actually its own complete memory profiling system. It's based on the JVMPI
API, much like my much simpler homebrew profiler was. jProf will give you a pretty
detailed analysis of how much of the heap got used up by which types of objects, and
IIRC it also gives information on method
My primary concern with utilizing different source build paths is that it will require
everyone to build from source. I think this could hamper FOP's acceptance, which is
the main reason I didn't support that originally. Additionally, when you think about
it, altering the source build
can jump in with specific suggestions or objections. Don't
be afraid to ask specific questions, and to ask them again if the
answers aren't clear to you, or are non-existent. The initiative on
this one is with you.
Peter
Rhett Aultman wrote:
Done, and I hope I submitted it properly. I think
.
Peter
Rhett Aultman wrote:
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From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
The discussion has thrown up some interesting points, and I hope to see
Rhett get involved in this soon.
I hope also that the work Rhett is talking about will give us
Comments below.
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From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fop and JDK1.2
The discussion has thrown up some interesting points, and I hope to see
Rhett get involved in this soon.
I hope
Peter,
Rather than building multiple version dependant JARs and having users select the best
one, perhaps we could, behind an interface that effectively hides the issue, detect
the version of the VM being run and dynamically load appropriate handler classes?
This alleviates the burden of
That is one way to handle it, but I think we might want something more in the box
than that. How many of FOP's users built FOP from scratch and thus used ant? It's
not entirely necessary, especially if you're not a FOP developer.
Rather than relying on Ant, I'd say a runtime detection of VM
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Subject: Re: Fop and JDK1.2 (using ant copy tasks to select
implementations)
On Tuesday 11 June 2002 14:43, Rhett Aultman wrote:
. . .
Rather than relying on Ant, I'd say a runtime detection of VM demographics
(version
it.
I'm with you in trying to alleviate as much of the burden as possible
for users. At the end of the day, the product that is the easiest to
set up and use has a huge advantage. Ask Microsoft.
Peter
Rhett Aultman wrote:
Peter,
Rather than building multiple version dependant JARs
Indeed. I've had to deal with very similar issues in the past. Our best bet, IMHO,
is going to be the compile on 1.3, run on 1.2 route. Since we have far more people
using binary builds than compiling from source, that route will provide the least
disruption for the most people.
It seems like a very interesting idea and like it could be of use in FOP, although I'd
prefer to give it more undivided attention over the weekend before I comment more
fully.
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From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:26 AM
To:
Ah. That clears it up. This definitely sounds like a step in the right direction.
-Original Message-
From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Exploring the FOP API design space
The MIME types for renderer
I'd actually like to hear more about this. I like the idea at first glance...it seems
like it might result in a cleaner codebase...but I really would like to hear more on
how MIME-types could be used to replace the subclassing technique. Jeremias, are you
suggesting a monolithic class for
CommandLineStarter is, if I'm not mistaken, part of the FOP standalone program, so
you're not supposed to use it to embed FOP in your applications. There are
instructions on how to embed FOP on the FOP website, so you should check those. If
launching FOP via its standalone command line
Believe me when I say that I am well aware of how important promotion is in a project,
but I still don't think that we should inflate a version number just to attract new
users. FOP has now had articles published about it more than once in XML Journal,
which is a far greater sign to users of
I live in the US. Florida, to be exact. I'd like to be able to attend and be a part
of chat meetings, but I realize that I'm small potatoes on this project, so my needs
should be secondary.
-Original Message-
From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002
IIRC
== "If I recall correctly."
The
statement would thus read, "If I recall correctly, images are placed by
the upper left corner..."
-Original Message-From: Bruno Verachten
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