Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Video codecs and mobile

2012-03-22 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 08:41, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Every article on a street should have video of the street, for example. I can't say I find that a particularly exciting prospect. Especially not, as perhaps I wrongly conjure from context given by this discussion, video shot

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor retention (was Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!)

2012-03-22 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 22:01, En Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: think that we should move in the opposite direction, permitting and possibly even encouraging people to be social (within reasonable limits) while working collaboratively on our collective project of Wikipedia. I agree.

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Video codecs and mobile

2012-03-22 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 15:41, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: True. But I do think it'd be an improvement on nothing, and will get better with time. Just after posting, my inbox pointed me towards this in a moment of pleasing synchronicity:

Re: [Foundation-l] User talk templates

2012-03-22 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:02, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: It's been discussed on-wiki before and firmly rejected (too lazy to dig it out). In the spirit of co-operation, I shall dig for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Perennial_proposals#Use_a_bot_to_welcome_new_users Bod

Re: [Foundation-l] English Wikipedia considering declaring open-season on works from countries lacking US copyright relations

2012-03-17 Thread Bod Notbod
Just thought I'd add this as an addendum to discussion of copyright in foreign parts. In Belgium a rights lobby [1] wants to charge libraries when they read books to children [2]. I guess they see it as akin to playing music in a public place, which here in the UK is charged by the Performing

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing Howie Fung as Director of Product Development

2012-01-31 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 04:19, Howie Fung hf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Great question :).  I think the best way to answer is by example. Thank you, Howie. Bod. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing Howie Fung as Director of Product Development

2012-01-30 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 20:03, Howie Fung hf...@wikimedia.org wrote: If anyone has any questions about the product group (e.g., what to expect, how it's organized, how we work with the community and other groups), please drop me a line. I'm going to do the unforgivable... OK, what can we

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] English Wikipedia to go dark January 18 in opposition to SOPA/PIPA

2012-01-18 Thread Bod Notbod
On Twitter: Wikipedia #WikipediaBlackout and Imagine A World Without Free Knowledge ...have all been trending for the late morning, early afternoon. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] English Wikipedia to go dark January 18 in opposition to SOPA/PIPA

2012-01-18 Thread Bod Notbod
Oh, damn: regarding the below... I meant to say in the UK. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:58, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: On Twitter: Wikipedia #WikipediaBlackout and Imagine A World Without Free Knowledge ...have all been trending for the late morning, early afternoon

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] English Wikipedia to go dark January 18 in opposition to SOPA/PIPA

2012-01-18 Thread Bod Notbod
AND, I also meant to say #FactsWithoutWikipedia is trending in the UK. This user is cataloguing Wikipedia-related tweets of people that seem to lack basic skills in reading/comprehension (not realising it's just for 24 hours for example)... many tweeting RIP Wikipedia!:

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Fabrice Florin joins Wikimedia

2012-01-10 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 00:29, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: I’m really happy to announce that Fabrice Florin is joining the Wikimedia Foundation as Product Manager for New Editor Engagement. [...] Please join me in giving him a big welcome to the Wikimedia movement. :-) holds up

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Fabrice Florin joins Wikimedia

2012-01-10 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 21:26, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Personal perspectives are perhaps not very suitable for the official blog (but may be), Ah. OK. I confess I'm more of a Signpost reader than of the blog, so I hadn't thought of it having a particular style or code.

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising and misunderstanding?

2011-12-09 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Not really. The Foundation has plenty of reserves. I believe the figure is that they have 6 months of operating costs in reserve. Whether you regard that as plenty depends on one's personality I would say.

Re: [Foundation-l] Is a research banner advertising of the evil sort?

2011-12-09 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see the problem, myself. There's no product, service or commercial interest being advertised. It's for users who are logged in, not all readers. People who choose to participate actually receive money, which can then be

Re: [Foundation-l] Is a research banner advertising of the evil sort?

2011-12-09 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: those who object to this banner have not rationally presented any possible harm that could result. From the opening email on this that you yourself presented you reported the following objections: 1. It looks like spam (harming

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-08 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Delirium delir...@hackish.org wrote: In my experience, experts in a field usually *hate* these general encyclopedia articles, and rarely agree with them. I know that when I look up artificial intelligence (my area) in an encyclopedia, even a specialist one,

[Foundation-l] WP being edited by lobbying firm

2011-12-06 Thread Bod Notbod
Hello, Hardly surprising or new, but something we need to be aware of: Wikipedia is being edited by a large lobbying company, Bell Pottinger. It removes negative coverage of its clients:

Re: [Foundation-l] The News Hole

2011-11-25 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: There has been some discussion in journalism circles that newspapers, who after all, provide the raw material for many of our topical articles might copy our system of organizing material under a subject heading The

Re: [Foundation-l] Ideas for newbie recruitment

2011-11-04 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember if we ever asked, in our general surveys, how and when contributors discovered that they /could/ edit. But perhaps after they've edited it's too late becauser they've already fallen in the

Re: [Foundation-l] Ideas for newbie recruitment

2011-11-04 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote: This hostility is being reflected in the drop at the number of the editors.I agree with the ''automatic-message theory''. None likes automatic messages. In my view, it should be reserved for vandals. Newbies needs

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hours

2011-11-01 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey guys Brandon, Howie, Fabrice and I will be holding a second Office Hours session on the new Article Feedback Tool on Thursday 3 November. This will be at 24:00 UTC, which works out at 4pm PST and 11pm GMT. This

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Community Appeal

2011-10-12 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Ivay Martínez gala...@gmail.com wrote: It's a great idea, I will ask to WM-MX guys to participate. And I support the idea of MZM, we need to do most in social media. I don't know if we have a strategy for content in FB, Twitter, Identi.ca, etc. I know that

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Stanton Foundation Awards Wikimedia $3.6 Million for Technology Improvements

2011-10-06 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote: The purpose of the grant is to fund major investments in the technology infrastructure that supports Wikipedia and its sister projects, Excellent. Does this mean we can now finally have categorised watchlists? It's an

Re: [Foundation-l] Given that we have won, can we turn Italian Wikipedia back on now?

2011-10-06 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Jalo jal...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe your countries are more slender If there is one thing that cannot be said of the denizens of the nation where Wikipedia is hosted, it is that they are slender. And we Brits will be similarly rotund by the end of the decade.

Re: [Foundation-l] Three short films about Wikipedia

2011-09-28 Thread Bod Notbod
Hi Lennart, On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wikihanni...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your input. They are not late at all. I have worked with writing and films for about ten years now, so I do not take your comments personally. The only comment that is new is that I

Re: [Foundation-l] Three short films about Wikipedia

2011-09-27 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wikihanni...@gmail.com wrote: This year, we have prepared three short films about why the visitors should contribute to Wikipedia (roughly a minute each) that we will show continuously over the four days of the fair. But before we show

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-08 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: I remember once at the local college library, Adams State, in Alamosa, that they had Girl on a Swing in the children's collection. At my secondary school library (er, I think that's 'high school' for the US equivalent)

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikinews-l] The systematic and codified bias against non-Western articles on Wikinews

2011-09-07 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Thomas Morton Agreed - this is not a good WP is unsuited to news. See item #3 in this Signpost re. death of Osama bin Laden. We nailed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-05-09/News_and_notes Wikipedia seems to get a lot of hits

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikinews-l] The systematic and codified bias against non-Western articles on Wikinews

2011-09-07 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Thomas Morton Wikipedia seems to get a lot of hits when it keeps up with the news. I think it reflects well on the project and has a bit of a wow! factor. It also gets us press coverage. So I'm all for news in Wikipedia. It's not *news* though - it's

Re: [Foundation-l] The systematic and codified bias against non-Western articles on Wikinews

2011-09-07 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: I'm proud of Wikinews.  We're so damn good at teaching how to write, a university journalism professor is assigning us to his students as homework. This is being done on Wikipedia regularly without any extra

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikinews-l] The systematic and codified bias against non-Western articles on Wikinews

2011-09-07 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Thomas Morton Does anyone want to argue for a policy that says Wikipedia does not record events until they are x days/months old? Yes, this would solve a large number of problems (not least resolving the historical significance issue). I think we'd lose

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

2011-09-07 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: But another example; clowns. Some people are terrified of clowns, even their images. You wouldn't describe images of clowns as potentially objectionable but it would be great for Coulrophobes to go oh hey

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

2011-09-07 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: As I said; you can't cover every situation. But you can engineer around the basic hierarchy - and leave the rest to a button saying add this image to my filter. I'm in favour of the filter (my argument being I'm

Re: [Foundation-l] January 15 retro?

2011-01-05 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: wouldn't it be nice to change the logo of Wikipedia on January 15th back for one day to those old logo's? I think I'd rather a more pedestrian solution of something with a big fat TEN YEARS or 10TH ANNIVERSARY on it.

Re: [Foundation-l] Report from Day 1 of technical testing

2010-11-14 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org wrote: My congratulations to Philippe, the rest of the community team at the Foundation, and all of the volunteers who have helped get the fundraiser to this stage. Yep, well done to the team, it's a fab start. Looking

Re: [Foundation-l] wikimedia fundraiser

2010-11-14 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 3:17 PM, luke lenny lennybodom...@gmail.com wrote: why can't wikimedia publish advertisements and generate revenue and become self-reliant,self-sustainable  , instead of asking for funds from user every year again and again... There's a number of issues. But painting

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Mike Godwin leaves the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-10-22 Thread Bod Notbod
Very sad to hear of Mike leaving; he's a charismatic lawyer. I used to get a kick out of telling people that we have *the* Godwin on board. I am going to take it for granted that do you have an internet meme and law named after you? will be one of the key questions when recruiting the next legal

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] New Wikipedia videos being released this week

2010-10-03 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote: This week the Foundation is excited to be releasing four separate videos shot at the recent Wikimania Conference in Gdansk, Poland.  The first video 'Username' is now posted on the WM Commons: They're good! Very

Re: [Foundation-l] Has Wikipedia changed since 2005?

2010-09-22 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Peter Damian peter.dam...@btinternet.com wrote: Some excellent comments in the last few posts. I agree, it's been an interesting conversation. Now... do we have a call to action? One of the things I note with this mailing list is that we are good at pointing

Re: [Foundation-l] Has Wikipedia changed since 2005?

2010-09-17 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that the core content of Wikipedia should be educational, not trivia. Well, here's our core content (5 thousand or so out of 3.x million): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Expanded As it happens

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia mirrors

2010-09-16 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Aude aude.w...@gmail.com wrote: Surely there are third parties with such experience and interested in this. [...] Surely google has or should have copy? It would be interesting to know what Google has. I recently began a new article and was stunned to see that

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Cyn Skyberg joins Wikimedia as CTCO!

2010-09-15 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: I've always thought that if for some reason all of the Wikimedia projects suddenly disappeared (and no one had any backups) we would be upset about it for a couple of days but then we would just start again O RLY!?

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for a moratorium on all new software developments

2010-09-07 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Teofilo teofilow...@gmail.com wrote: (1) [His] theory seeks to show that social agents develop strategies which are adapted to the needs of the social worlds that they inhabit. Strikes me that having a strategy that is adapted to your world is probably quite

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for a moratorium on all new software developments

2010-09-06 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Teofilo teofilow...@gmail.com wrote: Conclusion : Because more software means more harm... Your premises don't seem to support quite such a sweeping conclusion. ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Why do you contribute to Wikipedia?

2010-08-31 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wikihanni...@gmail.com wrote: Right now we in the Bookshelf Project are preparing a number of booklets and brochures and you are welcome to participate in the work. We look forward to any comments you may have to any of our deliverables:

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals with content issues.

2010-08-12 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:30 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Currently I am involved in a dispute regarding the interpretation of the literature regarding Transcendental Meditation (TM) which has been going on for years.  There are about 5 editors who admit to being practitioner of

[Foundation-l] How many books are there in the world?

2010-08-05 Thread Bod Notbod
Google has attempted to answer the question of how many books exist in a very interesting blog post. http://booksearch.blogspot.com/2010/08/books-of-world-stand-up-and-be-counted.html Why am I posting this to Foundation-l? Well, one of the things it reveals is the difficulty of answering this

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:43 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Job adverts? Really?. Site notice is for critical stuff (fund raising, servers about to explode) even if you play with the notice to only appear ~%10 of the time. Personally I was quite pleased to see it. It can only add to the

[Foundation-l] I didn't know we're on the BBC!

2010-07-28 Thread Bod Notbod
I've just discovered that the BBC's music site [1] is using our content for their biographies of musicians/bands [2]. This makes me happy. [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/ [2] http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/faqs#why_is_the_bbc_using_wikipedia ___

[Foundation-l] Will Wikipedia be forced to block hot facts?

2010-07-24 Thread Bod Notbod
Interesting blog post here which is really about the future of journalism but has implications for Wikipedia too. The Federal Trade Commission suggests that copyright law could be expanded to limit the right of aggregators to republish reported facts within a specific time period, a change known

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-16 Thread Bod Notbod
What definition of neutral are people using when they say the boycott template violates NPOV? I'm struggling with this. Where the WP servers are located, clearly it is acceptable to show pictures of Mohammed both legally and culturally. Amongst (some of, most of?) the speakers of the language

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-16 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com wrote: No, that's completely incorrect. Wikipedias are per language, not per country, and no country owns the wiki in its language. I'm completely agree on that and would add (to make it closer to context of  Excirial

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-16 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:21 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Er, en:wp, and other languages, are outstandingly owned by the Western democratic cultures of the US and Europe. It's what makes us able to show pictures that those of another culture might be willing to kill someone for.

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-16 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com wrote: As to the best of my understanding Each and every single rule on Wikipedia is completely determined by WP:5P (and NPOV is one of them) in sense that no rule may contradict to 5P. May not contradict.  That's something

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-16 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com wrote: So, to get back to the original question: Is it or is it not acceptable to you that the community of one Wikipedia decides that certain pictures will not be shown on their wiki? And is it or is it not acceptable that

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-16 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Oliver Keyes scire.fac...@gmail.com wrote: Except the problem is that at no point do they mention law; it's entirely personal opinions. The prohibition against illustrating Mohammed in (some?) muslim culture is no more a personal opinion than a decision we

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-16 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:02 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: The prohibition against illustrating Mohammed in (some?) muslim culture is no more a personal opinion than a decision we would make not to show, for example, certain sexual imagery or images of violence; there's certainly

Re: [Foundation-l] Communication

2010-06-05 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: I think if you look at what we did with regard to the Gallimard takedowns... Going back to the original issue regarding communication, the appearance of Mike on this thread shows me that this mailing list is one good way to

Re: [Foundation-l] Office action

2010-06-04 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:08 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The Right Honourable Mr Godwin: In the world outside this mailing list, the fact that I'm responding to this extent to these criticisms would itself be taken as proof of transparency, not disproof.

Re: [Foundation-l] Communication

2010-06-04 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Noein prono...@gmail.com wrote: I've been watching the dialogues between the WMF and this mailing list for a while now and most of the conflicts are the same: bad communication. This is apparently not due to individuals but institutional. I think you're wrong.

[Foundation-l] Fora.tv and Britannica to join hands...

2010-04-28 Thread Bod Notbod
I'm afraid I haven't been keeping up with posts to the list so I hope this hasn't already been broadcast. It's plausible to regard Britannica as a competitor to Wikipedia, although I doubt whether many of us actually wish them harm. They've come to an agreement with Fora.tv. I've viewed quite a

Re: [Foundation-l] Building up the reserves

2010-03-02 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Yeah, IIRC it was one of the suggestions of the auditors a few years ago. How much would you say needs to be saved up before WMF is no longer living hand-to-mouth? Very interesting question. Presumably it can be expressed as a

Re: [Foundation-l] I'm here to request a new Wikimedia project

2010-02-27 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com wrote:  I was just wondering, how would you like to start an almanac, guys? That would be neat, a wiki Our friends at the allied project OpenStreetMap (The Free Wiki World Map) have gone a long way in this direction, and

Re: [Foundation-l] Strategy n WMF Staff

2010-02-26 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: For my experience - even Cary has sometimes problems to figure our whom to contact in the Office for a specific inquiry - and this is not his fault but just because it is simply not well resolved inside Office, so I

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Thursday, February 25

2010-02-25 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey everyone! On Thursday, February 25, the Office Hour will once again be hosted by Mike Godwin, Legal counsel for the Wikimedia Foundation, who you can read about at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Mikegodwin

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Thursday, February 25

2010-02-25 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I was there when Cary asked for someone to do it and Mike was the only volunteer. I suspect the rest of the staff think they are too boring and nobody would want to talk to them. If you suggest a specific person

Re: [Foundation-l] Strategic Planning Office hours

2010-02-22 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote: We're now beginning the process of synthesizing the work that's been done so far. Well... there's some discussion about that... ___ foundation-l mailing list

[Foundation-l] Wikipedic OCD

2010-02-19 Thread Bod Notbod
Does anyone else suffer from this problem, whereby you listen to or watch any kind of programme and think I could add that to Wikipedia! For me, there's so many facts I encounter every day that having that thought becomes overwhelming. I just wonder if I'm alone. User:Bodnotbod

Re: [Foundation-l] Great news! Google gives Wikimedia USD 2 million

2010-02-18 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, this is big news!  Now with Google cooperating with the National Security Agency, everything seems to be lining up for Wikimedia. Can you expand on that please. ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Great news! Google gives Wikimedia USD 2 million

2010-02-17 Thread Bod Notbod
Excellent news. I'm a big fan of Google (not saying they won't ever turn evil!) and switching between Google and Wikimedia products/projects accounts for 90% of my time online. It's great to see them both in harmony with each other. The question is, how do we thank the company that has

Re: [Foundation-l] Great news! Google gives Wikimedia USD 2 million

2010-02-17 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: The prior question is, where did the money come from?  I can't seem to figure out what the Google Fund at the Tides Foundation is... It does seem slightly opaque. A small amount of digging suggests that Google gives money to

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote: Kids at my school are criticizing the heck out of your Foundation and will not trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it.  If anyone can edit, then why do you exist? There could be a billion vandals.  When the old ones

Re: [Foundation-l] A poem about wikis

2010-02-13 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote: Tiddly, Pop, pop, pop! Tiddly, pop, pop, pop. Wikipedia will never stop! It cranks out new articles, fixes the old. You can make text in Vetalics or bold. With three hundred million or more edits on the whole site, It

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announcement] Danese Cooper joins Wikimedia as CTO

2010-01-28 Thread Bod Notbod
She has an important job and lots to do: I ask you all to join me in welcoming and supporting her. Welcome Danese. Impressive CV! ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] 2008/2009 Wikimedia Foundation Annual Report

2010-01-25 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Veronique Kessler vkess...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks for the comment.  The mm signifies millions which is the amount the timeline is representing, $6 million from 125,000 donors globally. If we were to replace it with one m, that would signify only $6

Re: [Foundation-l] 2008/2009 Wikimedia Foundation Annual Report

2010-01-24 Thread Bod Notbod
Very impressed with the report, I found it rather inspiring. Is it too late for a proof-reading note? On page 12 headed Gathering Support, attached to the timeline at the bottom, there is a caption saying Annual Giving Campaign surpasses $6mm goal from over 125k donors globally. I guess there

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-18 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:19 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: As for the link, showing these in greatly enlarged  versions, without the context of the articles in which they are used, is setting up a strong bias. We've never engaged in that use of the material, nor would we. If

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-18 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: somewhat taken aback by a few of the pics in that video... are we ever going to have an article called gay facial? Are you saying that you will be surprised if you find out that we have one? Heh, after I pressed

Re: [Foundation-l] Sex-related content improvement

2010-01-14 Thread Bod Notbod
Or go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sex_positions , one of the most viewed pages of English Wikipedia. Do you think the images there are of excellent quality? I don't. I think they have a certain innocent charm. They look like pictures drawn by an illiterate who needed a hobby whilst

Re: [Foundation-l] Boing Boing applauds stats.grok.se!

2010-01-08 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:57 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: But then, who isn't a contributor since 2004 these days? Is there something special about 2004? That's when I became a volunteer. Is that recognised as the year things reached critical mass?

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising banners

2010-01-05 Thread Bod Notbod
Congrats to the WMF on raising all the necessary funds. I'm sure plenty was learned for next year's effort. I've always been curious that the fundraiser runs over Christmas. I thought that would be a time when people are watching their pennies. What's the reason for that? Just curious, as

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-17 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote: If we put a quote from Nelson Mandela there, for example, it isn't very likely that he will get any money or website traffic or any quantifiable benefit from our banner. I'm not against the Craig banner but you do

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-17 Thread Bod Notbod
With regard to whether Craigslist is too parochial, I can give some insight into the UK view. Amongst my online friends (young, 20-40 year old, IT literate, affluent consumers) Craigslist is certainly well known. But entirely unused. I haven't heard of a single person using the site from this

Re: [Foundation-l] Whither, video tutorials?

2009-12-07 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wikihanni...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the information, Lennart. The films were ready by some time in the spring of 2009, I guess, and Wikimedia Sverige showed them to a mildly impressed audience at our AGM. There was no premiere or big

Re: [Foundation-l] Whither, video tutorials?

2009-12-04 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: I've just remembered seeing these 'making of' vids for video tutorials: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2008/12/18/wikimedia-to-produce-online-video-tutorials/ The post is a year old. And a comment links to a post

Re: [Foundation-l] Whither, video tutorials?

2009-12-04 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Mike.lifeguard mike.lifegu...@gmail.com wrote: Here are two: *http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_video_tutorial-1-Editing-en.ogv *http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_video_tutorial-2-Reliability-en.ogv Aha! Thank you very much, Mike.

Re: [Foundation-l] Whither, video tutorials?

2009-12-04 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: They're very good. But the sound, for me, is *very* out of synch... by quite a number of minutes. Anyone else find that? Sorry, I meant *seconds*. ___ foundation-l mailing list

[Foundation-l] Whither, video tutorials?

2009-12-02 Thread Bod Notbod
I've just remembered seeing these 'making of' vids for video tutorials: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2008/12/18/wikimedia-to-produce-online-video-tutorials/ The post is a year old. And a comment links to a post in this mailing list, also nearly a year old:

Re: [Foundation-l] Pedophilia and the Non discrimination policy

2009-11-28 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Jake Wartenberg j...@jakewartenberg.com wrote: That is, pedophiles will always be able to edit unless we radically change the nature of the project. What? Radically change Wikipedia because of paedophiles? Change it how? When someone's about to make an edit

Re: [Foundation-l] Pedophilia and the Non discrimination policy

2009-11-28 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 11:57 PM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: but what sort of project are we left with? Let's just have Paedo-Wiki and be done with it. We have wikis for over 200 languages. It would be wrong not to allow paedos to express themselves.

Re: [Foundation-l] Pedophilia and the Non discrimination policy

2009-11-28 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:06 AM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: Let's just have Paedo-Wiki and be done with it. We have wikis for over 200 languages. It would be wrong not to allow paedos to express themselves. I recognize your sarcasm, but not your point. Well, I guess I just

Re: [Foundation-l] Pedophilia and the Non discrimination policy

2009-11-28 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:25 AM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: I agree.  When users edit the wikis to reflect pro-pedophilia/pro-murder/pro-rape/pro-anything (or anti-anything) agendas, that's when it's appropriate to act (regardless of whether they've provided advance indication

Re: [Foundation-l] Pedophilia and the Non discrimination policy

2009-11-28 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 1:28 AM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: What about users who make no on-wiki mentions of their pedophilia? I can't believe nobody's told a wikipaedophile joke yet. I went to the Edinburgh Festival a few years ago, watched a stand up comedian, and he asked does

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not bureaucracy, said bureaucrat and deleted article

2009-11-26 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Your question is not constructive because new rules of the list include the rule that 30 messages per month per person should be a limit. http://strategy.wikimedia.org No posting limit. Little bureaucracy. Ideas welcomed

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not bureaucracy, said bureaucrat and deleted article

2009-11-26 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Felipe Ortega glimmer_phoe...@yahoo.es wrote: This is Andrew Dalby's quote, not mine. I would like to hear from Felipe clarification of the claim that 49,000 contributors left Wikipedia. If it is so, then en.wp has around ten times more fluctuation of

Re: [Foundation-l] strategy office hours today

2009-11-17 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Eugene Eric Kim ee...@blueoxen.com wrote: Hi everyone, It's that time again. Strategic Planning office hours are today, November 18, from 20:00-21:00 UTC, which is: 12-1pm PST, 3pm-4pm EST. Um, today's the 17th.

Re: [Foundation-l] strategy office hours today

2009-11-17 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Isabell Long isabell...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, It's that time again. Strategic Planning office hours are today, November 18, from 20:00-21:00 UTC, which is: 12-1pm PST, 3pm-4pm EST. Um, today's the 17th. Maybe they're going on US time? By my

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation-l open for business, with changes

2009-11-14 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral...@gmail.com wrote: Second, we're adding a soft post limit that, for the time being, will kick in at 30 posts per month.  At that point, we will, at our discretion, place members on moderation for the remainder of the month, and will

Re: [Foundation-l] Growth vs. maintenance

2009-11-07 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:05 AM, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote: We need, thus, the influence of community opinion--expressed opinion, expressed without fear of rejection for not following the established forms. Surely the established forms are quite limited, the wiki and the

Re: [Foundation-l] Growth vs. maintenance

2009-11-04 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: At the root, I think that Wikipedia is something of a victim of it's own success.  We've written the largest encyclopedia in history, become a household name, and created a top web destination.  Great job.  What now? Are

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