Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wiki-lists
wjhon...@aol.com wrote: -Original Message- From: wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 5:31 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wiki-lists
Teofilo wrote: I should have said it in my previous message : the first and foremost priority for France, is that Government-owned museums allow visitors who paid their entrance ticket to carry a camera and take pictures of paintings and sculptures when the painters and sculptors died more

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wiki-lists
wjhon...@aol.com wrote: -Original Message- From: wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:17 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-29 Thread wiki-lists
David Gerard wrote: 2009/9/28 wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk: From the earlier poster Teofilo: I disagree. I think the priority is to have the full resolution pictures of Public Domain works. That seems to be a demand to have the highest resolution copies possible. That sets it

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the French cultural authorities

2009-09-27 Thread wiki-lists
Teofilo wrote: David Monniaux said : release lower resolution pictures under free license, keep high resolution pictures (those suitable for art books, posters and so on) proprietary. I disagree. I think the priority is to have the full resolution pictures of Public Domain works. Because

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-27 Thread wiki-lists
wjhon...@aol.com wrote: I thought that the recent U.S. Supreme Court decision basically was that a reproduction like this enjoys no new copyright ? I have a reproduction of Rembrandt's Toby and Anna whilst that doesn't give the producer of the reproduction the right to stop me making

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-27 Thread wiki-lists
wjhon...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/27/2009 1:29:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk writes: I have a reproduction of Rembrandt's Toby and Anna whilst that doesn't give the producer of the reproduction the right to stop me making copies from it, it also

Re: [Foundation-l] Creative Commons publishes report on defining Non-commercial, Is Wikpedia non commercial?

2009-09-15 Thread wiki-lists
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Sorry, But my question is not if we as a wikimedia group is violating the license, but if they as users are. I would like a professional opinion on the question : Is wikipedia non commercial or commercial non profit? It makes no difference.

Re: [Foundation-l] Creative Commons publishes report on defining Non-commercial

2009-09-15 Thread wiki-lists
Hay (Husky) wrote: That's why it's so important, for projects like ours, to use a license such as BY-SA that it usable by anyone, at anytime, for any purpose without that ambiguity. Except that it is not, the SA license ghettoizes the work just as an NC licenses does. The only difference

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009-09-08 Thread wiki-lists
Sage Ross wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:10 PM, wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: If someone write a piece of music and releases it under a CC-BY-SA license, they can also allow uses under other conditions. Now assume that you hear that music in some TV advert is the advert CC-BY-SA? Not

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009-09-07 Thread wiki-lists
Jovan Cormac wrote: wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: Secondly, just because YOU think something is PD or licensed under Creative Commons does not mean that it is in reality so. For example many images on flickr have been lifted from the web and the account uploading them falsely

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009-09-07 Thread wiki-lists
Bod Notbod wrote: On the subject of Flickr, I have a proposal. I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check license for use on Wikipedia which would be an easy way for people to a) make their pictures available to us and b) easier to find by Wikipedians. You can already

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009-09-07 Thread wiki-lists
Geoffrey Plourde wrote: I agree, vigilantism is not necessary and counter productive. The Commons Force proposal represents a clear and present danger, both for whoever hosts it and participates in it. It is not for a third party to intervene in a contract between two people and only two

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009-09-07 Thread wiki-lists
Bod Notbod wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:40 PM, wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: On the subject of Flickr, I have a proposal. I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check license for use on Wikipedia which would be an easy way for people to a) make their pictures

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009-09-07 Thread wiki-lists
Sage Ross wrote: If a copyleft license is being violated, that is potentially of concern beyond the two legal parties, since properly using the license would mean that derivative works are also part of the commons and available for others to use and adapt. The problem is that YOU have no

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009-09-06 Thread wiki-lists
Jovan Cormac wrote: Michael, I'm afraid you didn't understand the proposal. The proposal has nothing to do whatsoever with people contributing to Commons not being educated about licenses. It's about contacting to people *outside* of Commons, people who may not be involved in any

Re: [Foundation-l] Is Apple censoring Wiktionary?

2009-08-06 Thread wiki-lists
geni wrote: 2009/8/6 Luna lunasan...@gmail.com: That'd make sense, I think. From the article linked, it sounds like giving the application in question might be approved with a 17+ rating. That's probably reasonable where the application and its designer are drawing from unrated content beyond

Re: [Foundation-l] Analysis of statistics

2009-07-26 Thread wiki-lists
Henning Schlottmann wrote: Milos Rancic wrote: We need to recruit people who are willing to contribute for a few winter months. And maybe - just maybe - continue in spring or return next year again. Wikipedia was always intended for drive-by editing: Readers, who correct a fact, add some

Re: [Foundation-l] [Slashdot] Why the Photos On Wikipedia Are So Bad

2009-07-22 Thread wiki-lists
Peter Gervai wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 21:05, wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: Peter Gervai wrote: Usually I do not get it why people choose NC licenses all the time while there's usually a low probability to actually _lose_ money by making it public. This may come as a shock to

Re: [Foundation-l] [Slashdot] Why the Photos On Wikipedia Are So Bad

2009-07-21 Thread wiki-lists
David Gerard wrote: 2009/7/21 wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk: If you have a personal use, want to illustrating an article or blog that is not Adsense rich, have an academic use, or a small scale fundraising non-profit fine take what you want. If on the other hand you are share cropping with

Re: [Foundation-l] [Slashdot] Why the Photos On Wikipedia Are So Bad

2009-07-21 Thread wiki-lists
Ray Saintonge wrote: wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: David Gerard wrote: Explaining this to professional content creators and media companies leads to exploding heads. Pointing out that giving it all away has made Wikipedia a top-ten website and must be doing all right from it isn't