[Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours today

2009-09-01 Thread Eugene Eric Kim
We'll have our weekly office hours today (September 1, 2009) from 20:00-21:00 UTC on #wikimedia-strategy. Details at: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Office_Hours I suspect we'll have lots to talk about after a really great Wikimania. =Eugene --

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-22 Thread Eugene Eric Kim
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Samuel Kleinmeta...@gmail.com wrote: You replace one vested group (people already regularly editing the host wiki) with another (people who split off to found the new wiki).  both run the risk of 'groupthink' and founder effects. The plan is not to replace one

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread Angela
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: A related question - I see there was a request to set up a new domain, strategy.wikimedia.org What would this new site be for?  New single-purpose wikis can flounder after distracting people with setting up basic

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread Florence Devouard
Eugene Eric Kim wrote: Hi everybody, We're still in the process of getting up to speed, but I'm anxious to start interacting with more of you and garnering some feedback as we prepare to initiate this process. As a way to get to know each other and talk about the process, Philippe and I

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread Michael Peel
The website link states 21st July - so I assume this evening... Mike On 21 Jul 2009, at 10:37, Florence Devouard wrote: Eugene Eric Kim wrote: Hi everybody, We're still in the process of getting up to speed, but I'm anxious to start interacting with more of you and garnering some feedback

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread Mike.lifeguard
Good eyes, Sj. I have to agree - opening a new wiki for every single project is a terrible idea, as we've learned from quality.wikimedia.org. Please try to use Meta for this purpose. -Mike On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 02:19 -0400, Samuel Klein wrote: A related question - I see there was a request to

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread Mike.lifeguard
Is it time to close the advisory board wiki like we just closed quality.wikimedia.org? Considering the state you describe, I rather think so (even qualitywiki wasn't so bad). Content could be moved to foundationwiki or Meta (or both) depending on what it is. -Mike On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 17:08

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread Samuel Klein
We should leave quality.wikimedia.org in place as an object lesson to future wikifounders. When 20 interested editors isn't enough... And don't forget the grants wiki. It was used briefly, and despite being private contains very little private info. It should also be moved to meta and

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread Eugene Eric Kim
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Samuel Kleinmeta...@gmail.com wrote: * Could you please help update the meta page on the process with your thoughts and ideas?   [[m:Strategic planning 2009]]  What's your current rough timeline for the coming 12 months? We'll start seeding Meta with what we

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Eugene Eric Kim ee...@blueoxen.comwrote: We'll start seeding Meta with what we know (and probably quite a bit of what we don't) today, and I'll look forward to reading other people's thoughts. That will be great. There's a tradeoff between starting with

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Eugene Eric Kimee...@blueoxen.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Samuel Kleinmeta...@gmail.com wrote: * Could you please help update the meta page on the process with your thoughts and ideas?   [[m:Strategic planning 2009]]  What's your current rough

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread John at Darkstar
Small wikis need a lot more administrative work per articles than larger wikis. If there isn't any clear real reason then simply don't make a new wiki. John phoebe ayers wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Eugene Eric Kimee...@blueoxen.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Samuel

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread Erik Moeller
2009/7/21 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com: We should leave quality.wikimedia.org in place as an object lesson to future wikifounders.  When 20 interested editors isn't enough... :-) I don't think it's comparable. The Quality Portal was an attempt to drive attention towards some existing

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: I don't think it's comparable. The Quality Portal was an attempt to drive attention towards some existing technologies and initiatives - We have a simple and popular mechanism for creating portals. Why not ask the

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-21 Thread Eugene Eric Kim
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Samuel Kleinmeta...@gmail.com wrote: Cool, and many thanks for sharing your calendar!  We should all do that.  I was wondering about versioning - a pity it's not supported.  A wiki list and bugzilla project should work as well.  Someone just needs to write the

[Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-20 Thread Eugene Eric Kim
Hi everybody, We're still in the process of getting up to speed, but I'm anxious to start interacting with more of you and garnering some feedback as we prepare to initiate this process. As a way to get to know each other and talk about the process, Philippe and I will be holding IRC office hours

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-20 Thread Milos Rancic
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Eugene Eric Kimee...@blueoxen.com wrote: and talk about the process, Philippe and I will be holding IRC office hours tomorrow on freenode's #wikimedia channel from 8-10pm UTC. (You can convert this to your local timezone using: http://bit.ly/1aCw9p ). May you

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning IRC office hours

2009-07-20 Thread Samuel Klein
Hi Eugene, very nice, thank you (and welcome!) * Could you please help update the meta page on the process with your thoughts and ideas? [[m:Strategic planning 2009]] What's your current rough timeline for the coming 12 months? * I see you are using a non-editable Chandler calendar to track