Re: [fpc-pascal] a suggestion...

2006-05-25 Thread Florian Klaempfl
ϸòð Êîñàðåâñêèé ñ mail.ru wrote: FK Jonas Maebe wrote: On 24 mei 2006, at 17:30, Florian Klaempfl wrote: Not really because it is simply a tar ball of several .tar.gz. Because gzip is spread wider, we use this instead of bzip2/7zip. Isn't bzip2 available more or less everywhere nowadays?

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: a suggestion...

2006-05-25 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Jeff Pohlmeyer wrote: Because gzip is spread wider, we use this instead of bzip2/7zip. I think the size saved by compressing FPC with bz2 would be much greater than the size of downloading and installing a bzip2 extractor. Yes, but it requires extra work :)

Re: [fpc-pascal] rotating bits

2006-05-25 Thread Tomas Hajny
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Tomas Hajny wrote: On 25 May 06, at 0:10, ϸňđ Ęîńŕđĺâńęčé ń mail.ru wrote: First parameter is in eax, second in edx (third one is ecx) TH Yes, of course, sorry for confusion... :-( Anyway, loading of the first TH parameter can be still skipped (and the stack frame

Re: [fpc-pascal] unit name with dots

2006-05-25 Thread Florian Klaempfl
mariano podesta wrote: hi, does fpc support unit names with more than one dot or is planned? in delphi 7 you can compile this: This looks to me like a delphi bug. A unit must be a valid pascal identifier. Or is there any use in supporting this? // unit main.dpr program main; uses

Re: [fpc-pascal] rotating bits

2006-05-25 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Thu, 25 May 2006, Florian Klaempfl wrote: Tomas Hajny wrote: On 25 May 06, at 0:10, ϸňđ Ęîńŕđĺâńęčé ń mail.ru wrote: First parameter is in eax, second in edx (third one is ecx) TH Yes, of course, sorry for confusion... :-( Anyway, loading of the first TH

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: a suggestion...

2006-05-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
Jeff Pohlmeyer wrote: Because gzip is spread wider, we use this instead of bzip2/7zip. I think the size saved by compressing FPC with bz2 would be much greater than the size of downloading and installing a bzip2 extractor. Yes, but it requires extra work :) Just a side remark,

Re: [fpc-pascal] rotating bits

2006-05-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
1) Are they useful in general, so that it would make sense to include them either in FPC itself (as opposed to some standalone unit)? - they must be available for all cpu platforms, so we need at least a generic implementation - for an efficient implementation, this needs a

Re: [fpc-pascal] unit name with dots

2006-05-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
On 5/25/06, Florian Klaempfl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mariano podesta wrote: hi, does fpc support unit names with more than one dot or is planned? in delphi 7 you can compile this: This looks to me like a delphi bug. A unit must be a valid pascal identifier. Or is there any

Re: [fpc-pascal] rotating bits

2006-05-25 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Marco van de Voort wrote: 1) Are they useful in general, so that it would make sense to include them either in FPC itself (as opposed to some standalone unit)? - they must be available for all cpu platforms, so we need at least a generic implementation - for an efficient implementation,

Re[2]: [fpc-pascal] rotating bits

2006-05-25 Thread Пётр Косаревский
But the problem with ROR/ROL is that any real use over shr/shl uses a hard to model carry flag? Ugh, I don't understand well, but the talk is about rotating bits, no low level features like CF are requested (it doesn't mean very much if you rotate by several bits). Who talked about CF? I

Re: [fpc-pascal] rotating bits

2006-05-25 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 25 May 2006, Florian Klaempfl wrote: Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Thu, 25 May 2006, Florian Klaempfl wrote: Tomas Hajny wrote: On 25 May 06, at 0:10, ϸňđ Ęîńŕđĺâńęčé ń mail.ru wrote: First parameter is in eax, second in edx (third one is ecx) TH Yes, of course,

Re: [fpc-pascal] rotating bits

2006-05-25 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Thu, 25 May 2006, Florian Klaempfl wrote: Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Thu, 25 May 2006, Florian Klaempfl wrote: Tomas Hajny wrote: On 25 May 06, at 0:10, ϸňđ Ęîńŕđĺâńęčé ń mail.ru wrote: First parameter is in eax, second in edx (third one is ecx) TH

Re[2]: [fpc-pascal] rotating bits

2006-05-25 Thread Пётр Косаревский
Well, if we're going in that direction anyway: Why not include all possible assembler instructions then ? Because some of them are not designed for calculations. But ror/rol are. Let's be serious. You must draw the line somewhere. I think these instructions are so exotic, they are pollution

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: a suggestion...

2006-05-25 Thread Tomas Hajny
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Adrian Maier wrote: On 25/05/06, Florian Klaempfl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Pohlmeyer wrote: Because gzip is spread wider, we use this instead of bzip2/7zip. I think the size saved by compressing FPC with bz2 would be much greater than the size of downloading

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: a suggestion...

2006-05-25 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 25 May 2006, at 12:43, Florian Klaempfl wrote: What do you think about having two archives, to make everyone happy : one compressed with gzip ( for those concerned about compatibility) and one compressed with bzip2 (for those concerned about the size) ? Extra work for us :) We're

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: a suggestion...

2006-05-25 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 25 May 2006, at 12:43, Florian Klaempfl wrote: What do you think about having two archives, to make everyone happy : one compressed with gzip ( for those concerned about compatibility) and one compressed with bzip2 (for those concerned about the size) ? Extra work

Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: a suggestion...

2006-05-25 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 5/25/06, Florian Klaempfl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tend also to agree. Does anybody know something newer than Woody coming without bzip2 by default? DamnSmallLinux -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ___ fpc-pascal maillist -

Re[4]: [fpc-pascal] a suggestion...

2006-05-25 Thread Пётр Косаревский
bzip2 has similar compression rates (except maybe for multimedia files, which isn't the case) and 7zip/LZMA usually compresses better than RAR. 7zip isn't installed by default in any distro AFAIK, but at least it open source. RAR would be my last option... I tried to benchmark a little.