Re: Unicode

2006-08-14 Thread Andrei 'ABacus' Bondarenko
Hi Oleg, Oleg A. Paraschenko wrote: Talk to your co-workers with the name Valerij, one of them is a FrameMaker expert. http://forum.philosoft.ru/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=Profile;CODE=03;MID=194-1054469907 It's rather jocularly :-) Because one of them is me. --- Best regards Andrei

Re: Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Art Campbell
In addition to Charles' and Steven's recommendation, there's another method to consider, although whether it's better or not depend on your situation. In my books, the header info changes from book to book and I have to renumber to get the chapter and page number correct. Instead of actually

One more question about sharing FM files

2006-08-14 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
In the footer, is it better to use a variable for the book name or hidden conditional text. Conditional text seems better in the sense that there probably are other things in the chapter that are conditional, but I've heard there is a limitation on the amount of conditional text types you can

RE: One more question about sharing FM files

2006-08-14 Thread Mark Southee
Shmuel, Not sure about any limits, but I have a book that is pdf'd in 6 different variations. I create a book name variable for them all and then apply conditional text to each variable. I've not had any issues so far. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Joe Malin
The way I do this is: * distinguish books by part number * one book file per part number * unique title.fm for each book * store all variables, conditional text settings, and colors in title.fm * use variables for book-level changes, like titles in the footer, etc. * use conditional text for

RE: One more question about sharing FM files

2006-08-14 Thread Joe Malin
I prefer variables. That way I can show all conditional text and not get a mess! Of course, I use a variable for the book name even when it's *not* conditional. We are ever-changing here, and I'd go nuts if I depending on terminology from one day to the next :). I use the Bookvars tool to manage

RE: Urgent: Table Row with different Table Cell formats

2006-08-14 Thread Joe Malin
Yes, in fact I do this all the time with Tip/Note/Warning text that I put in a table. If you want, I can send you an unstructured FM 7.1 file with the paragraph, character, and table formats I use. Joe Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tuvox.com The views expressed

Re: Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Art Campbell
Well, it may be Monday, but I'm not seeing what the problem is from the original message... Lorraine? Could you give us a couple more clues? Thanks, Art On 8/14/06, Lorraine Kiewiet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using Format A, as is from the default. Or at least I thought I was. For the

RE: Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Grant Hogarth
Really good points -- and ones that I took as a given, and should not have! Thanks for the reminder! Grant -Original Message- From: Peter Gold Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:16 AM Cc: Framers Subject: Re: Using the same chapters for several books When including a FrameMaker file in

Re: One more question about sharing FM files

2006-08-14 Thread John Posada
We use variables...the same variable for the footer and the cover. We're heading toward using the BookVars plugin to manage our variables...we have, maybe, 100 variables of various types? --- Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the footer, is it better to use a variable for the book

Re: Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Art Campbell
Unless you changed something in the Autonumbering settings, the easiest explanation would be that the flow or order of text containers was disrupted. Did you add disconnected pages or maybe add text frames that are not autoconnected properly (in order)? Art On 8/14/06, Lorraine Kiewiet [EMAIL

Re: Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Stuart Rogers
Lorraine Kiewiet wrote: The first table is autonumbering itself Table 2: Not Table 1. Is this table in a file that is part of a book? Is there a table in the previous file? Is the Book Numbering for paragraphs set to continue numbering from previous file? If the answers are 'yes', then

Re: Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Lorraine Kiewiet
Thanks. Good suggestion. Checked that and it is set to Restart. -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 14, 2006 10:54 AM To: Lorraine Kiewiet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED], framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Format A

Re: Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Tammy . VanBoening
Do you have another paragraph tag with autonumbering properties that also use the Series Label of T and that is being used BEFORE you insert the first table? Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Art Campbell
Whoops -- I was thinking the numbering was in a single file, not a book with multiple files. Sorry. OK, the corollary to Stuart's suggestion is that the first file in the book in which you want the numbering to begin should be set, in the book file Numbering Para, to Restart (at 1). Then all

.PS Frustration

2006-08-14 Thread Fred Staal
Hi Framers, What would cause a .ps file printed from a Framemaker book to fail when the destination is the same folder as the FrameMaker file, but successfully print to another folder on the same drive? Naturally this behavior started when the manual is due, so I am printing the book to

Re: .PS Frustration

2006-08-14 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Fred: You don't quote any error messages, so these are only guesswork, based on experience: * If you're using a watched folder, and the last time you viewed the PDF file, it wasn't closed, Distiller can't create a new PDF of the same name, so it refuses to create new .ps. If you change

RE: .PS Frustration

2006-08-14 Thread Fred Staal
Hi All, I tried a couple of things, but suspect a comma in the folder name was causing the problem. After removing it, the problem ceased. Since this was a relatively new book file, I never had an occasion before this to print any files in the folder. Peter, thanks for responding, Fred Fred

RE: Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Charles Beck
Joe Malin wrote: Hijack: I have a book that excludes some chapters if it goes out to customers (external version). The drawback to this is that I have to re-set some chapter numbering settings when I re-generate the internal version. Does anyone have a better way? Joe

Re: Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Susan Modlin
One more suggestion: we have a similar situation, with reused files, running headers that change, plus variables and conditions that need to be flipped. We started with what Art calls container files to flip the variables and conditions so that the borrowed files knew where they were. Flipping

RE: Urgent: Table Row with different Table Cell formats

2006-08-14 Thread Matt Sullivan
The way to store Para Tags with the format is simply to Update the Table Format after the Para Tags have been assigned. Frame will recognize the Para Tag assignment for the Table Title, and patterns for the Header, Footer, and Body rows -Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training Consulting

RE: Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Joe Malin
I have two separate books, but they share chapters. The numbering properties seem to persist for a chapter file, even if I set the numbering properties at the book level. Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tuvox.com The views expressed in this document are

RE: Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread John Posada
Assuming you have numbering set uo correctly, the page numbering should fall into place each time you run a TOC for each book --- Joe Malin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two separate books, but they share chapters. The numbering properties seem to persist for a chapter file, even if I set

Re: Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Lorraine Kiewiet
These are all good suggestions, but I have checked all of these Restart tabs, T: as label. The only suggestion I have not looked at yet is the text flow suggestion. I'll let you know! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 14, 2006 2:16 PM To: Lorraine Kiewiet [EMAIL

Re: Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread rebecca officer
Are you sure you haven't accidentally applied that paragraph tag to a paragraph of something else earlier in the chapter? To check, search for the paragraph tag name. Cheers, Rebecca Lorraine Kiewiet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/08/06 05:44 Yes. It certainly is Monday, and I've switched from coffee to

Unicode

2006-08-14 Thread Andrei 'ABacus' Bondarenko
Hi Oleg, Oleg A. Paraschenko wrote: > Talk to your co-workers with the name "Valerij", one of them is > a FrameMaker expert. > > http://forum.philosoft.ru/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=Profile;CODE=03;MID=194-1054469907 > It's rather jocularly :-) Because one of them is me. --- Best regards

Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Could anyone give me a brief overview of how to use the same chapters for several books, or the right terminology to find this in the online help? -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson

Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Charles Beck
Hi Shmuel, This is actually very easy and is one of the primary strengths of FrameMaker. Once you have the chapter files created, it is as easy as adding them to whatever books you want to include them in. For example, you might have Chapters 1 through 5 created. In one book you want to use the

Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Stephen O'Brien
The mechanics in the last response are correct, but don't forget the numbering. FrameMaker allows two types of numbering: document (what you call a chapter) and book. This is necessary as some documents are not in a book but stand alone. So, when using documents in different books, you may

Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Peter Gold
When including a FrameMaker file in more than one book, you need to pay attention to any differences between the books, such as: * layout and formats - if master page designs, paragraph, character, table, cross-reference, and variable formats are different in the books, you'll need to import

Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Art Campbell
In addition to Charles' and Steven's recommendation, there's another method to consider, although whether it's better or not depend on your situation. In my books, the header info changes from book to book and I have to renumber to get the chapter and page number correct. Instead of actually

One more question about sharing FM files

2006-08-14 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
In the footer, is it better to use a variable for the book name or hidden conditional text. Conditional text seems better in the sense that there probably are other things in the chapter that are conditional, but I've heard there is a limitation on the amount of conditional text types you can

One more question about sharing FM files

2006-08-14 Thread Mark Southee
Shmuel, Not sure about any limits, but I have a book that is pdf'd in 6 different variations. I create a book name variable for them all and then apply conditional text to each variable. I've not had any issues so far. Mark -Original Message- From:

Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Joe Malin
The way I do this is: * distinguish books by part number * one book file per part number * unique title.fm for each book * store all variables, conditional text settings, and colors in title.fm * use variables for book-level changes, like titles in the footer, etc. * use conditional text for

One more question about sharing FM files

2006-08-14 Thread Joe Malin
I prefer variables. That way I can show all conditional text and not get a mess! Of course, I use a variable for the book name even when it's *not* conditional. We are ever-changing here, and I'd go nuts if I depending on terminology from one day to the next :). I use the Bookvars tool to manage

Urgent: Table Row with different Table Cell formats

2006-08-14 Thread Joe Malin
Yes, in fact I do this all the time with Tip/Note/Warning text that I put in a table. If you want, I can send you an unstructured FM 7.1 file with the paragraph, character, and table formats I use. Joe Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 jmalin at tuvox.com www.tuvox.com The views

Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Lorraine Kiewiet
I'm using Format A, "as is" from the default. Or at least I thought I was. For the TableTitle paragraph tag, I'm using this string in the AutoNumbering field: T:Table : Other tables I've looked at, as well as Figure captions, use this format for Autonumbering and they are working fine.

Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Art Campbell
Well, it may be Monday, but I'm not seeing what the problem is from the original message... Lorraine? Could you give us a couple more clues? Thanks, Art On 8/14/06, Lorraine Kiewiet wrote: > I'm using Format A, "as is" from the default. Or at least I thought I was. > For the TableTitle

Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Grant Hogarth
Really good points -- and ones that I took as a "given", and should not have! Thanks for the reminder! Grant -Original Message- From: Peter Gold Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:16 AM Cc: Framers Subject: Re: Using the same chapters for several books When including a FrameMaker file in

One more question about sharing FM files

2006-08-14 Thread John Posada
We use variables...the same variable for the footer and the cover. We're heading toward using the BookVars plugin to manage our variables...we have, maybe, 100 variables of various types? --- Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > In the footer, is it better to use a variable for the book name or > hidden

Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Lorraine Kiewiet
Yes. It certainly is Monday, and I've switched from coffee to iced tea and it must not have as much caffeine. The first table is autonumbering itself "Table 2:" Not Table 1. In a new, blank document, autonumbering of tables in Format A and Format B is working fine. That's why I think I

Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Art Campbell
Unless you changed something in the Autonumbering settings, the easiest explanation would be that the flow or order of text containers was disrupted. Did you add disconnected pages or maybe add text frames that are not autoconnected properly (in order)? Art On 8/14/06, Lorraine Kiewiet wrote: >

Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Stuart Rogers
Lorraine Kiewiet wrote: > The first table is autonumbering itself "Table 2:" Not Table 1. > Is this table in a file that is part of a book? Is there a table in the previous file? Is the Book Numbering for paragraphs set to "continue numbering from previous file"? If the answers are 'yes',

Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Lorraine Kiewiet
Thanks. Good suggestion. Checked that and it is set to Restart. -Original Message- >From: Stuart Rogers >Sent: Aug 14, 2006 10:54 AM >To: Lorraine Kiewiet >Cc: Art Campbell , framers at lists.frameusers.com >Subject: Re: Format A Auto-numbering > >Lorraine Kiewiet wrote: > >> The first

Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread tammy.vanboen...@jeppesen.com
Do you have another paragraph tag with autonumbering properties that also use the Series Label of "T" and that is being used BEFORE you insert the first table? Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com

Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Art Campbell
Whoops -- I was thinking the numbering was in a single file, not a book with multiple files. Sorry. OK, the corollary to Stuart's suggestion is that the first file in the book in which you want the numbering to begin should be set, in the book file Numbering > Para, to Restart (at 1). Then all

One more question about sharing FM files

2006-08-14 Thread Charles Beck
I've done it both ways, but much more commonly with variables. I think that is also easier. Chuck -Original Message- Subject: One more question about sharing FM files In the footer, is it better to use a variable for the book name or hidden conditional text. Conditional text seems

.PS Frustration

2006-08-14 Thread Fred Staal
Hi Framers, What would cause a .ps file printed from a Framemaker book to fail when the destination is the same folder as the FrameMaker file, but successfully print to another folder on the same drive? Naturally this behavior started when the manual is due, so I am printing the book to another

.PS Frustration

2006-08-14 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Fred: You don't quote any error messages, so these are only guesswork, based on experience: * If you're using a watched folder, and the last time you viewed the PDF file, it wasn't closed, Distiller can't create a new PDF of the same name, so it refuses to create new .ps. If you change

.PS Frustration

2006-08-14 Thread Fred Staal
Hi All, I tried a couple of things, but suspect a comma in the folder name was causing the problem. After removing it, the problem ceased. Since this was a relatively new book file, I never had an occasion before this to print any files in the folder. Peter, thanks for responding, Fred Fred

Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Charles Beck
Joe Malin wrote: Hijack: I have a book that excludes some chapters if it goes out to customers (external version). The drawback to this is that I have to re-set some chapter numbering settings when I re-generate the internal version. Does anyone have a better way? Joe Are you

Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Susan Modlin
One more suggestion: we have a similar situation, with reused files, running headers that change, plus variables and conditions that need to be flipped. We started with what Art calls container files to flip the variables and conditions so that the borrowed files knew where they were. Flipping

Urgent: Table Row with different Table Cell formats

2006-08-14 Thread Matt Sullivan
The way to store Para Tags with the format is simply to "Update" the Table Format after the Para Tags have been assigned. Frame will recognize the Para Tag assignment for the Table Title, and patterns for the Header, Footer, and Body rows -Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training & Consulting

Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Joe Malin
I have two separate books, but they share chapters. The numbering properties seem to persist for a chapter file, even if I set the numbering properties at the book level. Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 jmalin at tuvox.com www.tuvox.com The views expressed in this document

Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread Art Campbell
Joe, What version of FM? Art On 8/14/06, Joe Malin wrote: > I have two separate books, but they share chapters. The numbering > properties seem to persist for a chapter file, even if I set the > numbering properties at the book level. -- Art Campbell

Using the same chapters for several books

2006-08-14 Thread John Posada
Assuming you have numbering set uo correctly, the page numbering should fall into place each time you run a TOC for each book --- Joe Malin wrote: > I have two separate books, but they share chapters. The numbering > properties seem to persist for a chapter file, even if I set the > numbering

Format A Auto-numbering

2006-08-14 Thread Lorraine Kiewiet
These are all good suggestions, but I have checked all of these "Restart" tabs, T: as label. The only suggestion I have not looked at yet is the text flow suggestion. I'll let you know! -Original Message- >From: Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com >Sent: Aug 14, 2006 2:16 PM >To: Lorraine