Re: FrameMaker and Illustrator EPS files

2007-09-12 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Steve: Have you tried applying Fill None to the number graphic in FM? This may work when the graphics are not grouped, and may fail when they are grouped. It's worth a try. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 9/12/07, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL

Numbering steams and flows

2007-09-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
Am working against the clock with a book that is undergoing last-minute design changes on press day, so I have to use up two question tokens today... I am forced to mix 1-column and 2-column layouts. I cannot use tables, as the existing 1-c material that must go into 2-c already contains

RE: structured Frame

2007-09-12 Thread mcarr
Fred Ridder wrote: There *are* some real benefits, but they tend to be less quantifiable tangible and harder to proove to managers or business analysts who have to sign off on the budget and implementation plan. The gains in collaboration and writing a topic only once, which are generally

Re: Numbering steams and flows

2007-09-12 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Steve: Have you looked into: * Text insets for the two-column pieces - number streams increment * Two-column layout everywhere, with across-all column paragraph formats for one-column layout HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 9/12/07,

Re: FrameMaker and Illustrator EPS files

2007-09-12 Thread Peter Gold
Did you try exporting to PDF? Sometimes the Fill None doesn't appear on screen in FM, but does work in PDF. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 9/12/07, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Peter Have you tried applying Fill None to

RE: Numbering steams and flows

2007-09-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Steve Rickaby wrote: I am forced to mix 1-column and 2-column layouts. I cannot use tables, as the existing 1-c material that must go into 2-c already contains tables. As we know from previous discussions here, the column layout is a flow property rather than a page property, so I

Re: Structured Frame

2007-09-12 Thread Miriam Boral
Thanks to everyone for your great responses. FYI, I might add that an advantage of my working for a very small company (and having been there many years) is that I don't need to make a formal proposal for this. (Of course, at the same time, there will be no consultants, etc., just me in the

Frame 7.2 and Vista

2007-09-12 Thread Phil Heron
Framers, I have just received a new PC - it's running Windows Vista. I installed Frame 7.2 (build 144) successfully but found I was unable to install the patch to update it to build 158. I know Frame 7.2 is not officially supported on Vista but I am not currently in a position to upgrade to

RE: Frame 7.2 and Vista

2007-09-12 Thread Denise L. Moss-Fritch
Phil, I have not tried the following with the FM 7.2 patches, however the following did work with another application. Right-click on the patch file and select Properties. From the Compatibility tab of the Properties dialog, select Run this program in the compatibility mode for check box and

RE: structured Frame

2007-09-12 Thread Fred Ridder
Marcus, Marcus, Marcus. In the abstract, I completely agree with what you say. My postings in this thread, though, have been written to address the specific context of the original poster, who is a sole writer at a company which has a significant body of unstructured documentation, and who is

Re: Numbering steams and flows

2007-09-12 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Steve: On 9/12/07, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Peter Have you looked into: * Text insets for the two-column pieces - number streams increment No. Neat idea - I will. Let me understand what you are suggesting - set 2-c material as 2-c in FrameMaker docs and then

Re: Numbering steams and flows

2007-09-12 Thread Stuart Rogers
Steve Rickaby wrote: I am forced to mix 1-column and 2-column layouts. I cannot use tables, as the existing 1-c material that must go into 2-c already contains tables. As we know from previous discussions here, the column layout is a flow property rather than a page property, so I must use a B

Re: Frame 7.2 and Vista

2007-09-12 Thread John Posada
I installed Frame 7.2 (build 144) successfully but found I was unable to install the patch to update it to build 158. I know Frame 7.2 is not officially supported on Vista but I am not currently in a position to upgrade to Frame 8. There's often a good reason why a company refuses to support

RE: structured Frame

2007-09-12 Thread Daniel Emory
The fundamental issue is Return on Investment (ROI), whether the staff is one writer or 100. Here are the major cost factors that must be evaluated: A Realizable positive values of a structured solution. 1. A breakdown of the identifiable costs of the current unstructured methodology which can

Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-12 Thread Lin Surasky
Hi all- Is there a known issue with vertical alignment in table cells (FM 7.2 on Windows XP, unstructured)? I don't use tables very often, but I have a small one that has a few narrow columns that contain asterisks to indicate whether a condition is met, and one column of text that describes

RE: Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-12 Thread Lin Surasky
Hi, Stuart- You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change things. The Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule of the table cell. The anchored frame idea is a good way to work around it, although if there's a setting

RE: Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-12 Thread Fred Ridder
Well, unless Adobe broke something in FM7.2, I think there is something peculiar going on with your document. I have FM7.1 on my Windows XP laptop, and constructed a test table similar to what you have described. It works perfectly. All asterisks are (almost) centered both horizontally and

RE: Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-12 Thread Lin Surasky
Nope, no Word weirdness. I created the table from scratch in Frame. There must be a setting someplace that I'm missing -Original Message- From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:21 PM To: Lin Surasky Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com

RE: Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Lin Surasky wrote: You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change things. The Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule of the table cell. Touching the top rule? Something's wrong there! You said earlier that

RE: Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-12 Thread Lin Surasky
You're right. It's not touching, but it's close. Even if it's 4 pt from the border, it's still not centered. And I did double-check the table definition, and no negative numbers are used. The mis-alignment lessens as the rows get taller; the worst offender is with the row that's a single line

Re: Memory Leak

2007-09-12 Thread Stuart Rogers
Kelly McDaniel wrote: Folks, I'm running FrameMaker 7.0p579 on a Dell Dimension 8200 with a Pentium 4 2.53ghz chip and a gig of RAM. FrameMaker just crashed with its famous got to quit message. Will adding more memory help at all? Are there other hardware admin fixes you can suggest to keep

Structured Frame

2007-09-12 Thread mc...@allette.com.au
Miriam Boral wrote: > I'm the sole tech writer for a very small company, but we have a > large suite of documentation. I'm beginning to teach myself > structured Frame both because I feel it's the way of the future (and > therefore worth learning) and also to explore how it might (or might >

Chinese Character Problem in Frame 7.0

2007-09-12 Thread Emily Cotlier
Hello there...I am trying to work with a translator to localize an English language manual into Standard Mandarin. The manual is in FrameMaker 7.0. I sent my translator my FrameMaker files in MIF format. My translator did a partial translation of a sample file in MIF format, using Trados, and sent

FrameMaker and Illustrator EPS files

2007-09-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
FrameMaker 7.0, Mac, Illustrator CS2 I have a chapter opener decorative EPS which is about a 4.5 MB Illustrator file and is imported onto the chapter opener master page. Because of FrameMaker's paucity of text effects, the simplest way to implement the required design [a 180 point reversed-out

FrameMaker and Illustrator EPS files

2007-09-12 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Steve: Have you tried applying Fill > None to the number graphic in FM? This may work when the graphics are not grouped, and may fail when they are grouped. It's worth a try. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 9/12/07, Steve Rickaby

Numbering steams and flows

2007-09-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
Am working against the clock with a book that is undergoing last-minute design changes on press day, so I have to use up two question tokens today... I am forced to mix 1-column and 2-column layouts. I cannot use tables, as the existing 1-c material that must go into 2-c already contains

structured Frame

2007-09-12 Thread mc...@allette.com.au
Fred Ridder wrote: > There *are* some real benefits, but > they tend to be less quantifiable tangible and harder to proove > to managers or business analysts who have to sign off on the > budget and implementation plan. The gains in collaboration and > writing a topic only once, which are

FrameMaker and Illustrator EPS files

2007-09-12 Thread Peter Gold
Did you try exporting to PDF? Sometimes the Fill > None doesn't appear on screen in FM, but does work in PDF. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 9/12/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: > > Hi Peter > > >Have you tried applying Fill > None to the number

Numbering steams and flows

2007-09-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Steve Rickaby wrote: > I am forced to mix 1-column and 2-column layouts. I cannot > use tables, as the existing 1-c material that must go into > 2-c already contains tables. > > As we know from previous discussions here, the column layout > is a flow property rather than a page property, so

Structured Frame

2007-09-12 Thread Miriam Boral
Thanks to everyone for your great responses. FYI, I might add that an advantage of my working for a very small company (and having been there many years) is that I don't need to make a formal proposal for this. (Of course, at the same time, there will be no consultants, etc., just me in the

Frame 7.2 and Vista

2007-09-12 Thread Phil Heron
Framers, I have just received a new PC - it's running Windows Vista. I installed Frame 7.2 (build 144) successfully but found I was unable to install the patch to update it to build 158. I know Frame 7.2 is not officially supported on Vista but I am not currently in a position to upgrade to

Frame 7.2 and Vista

2007-09-12 Thread Denise L. Moss-Fritch
Phil, I have not tried the following with the FM 7.2 patches, however the following did work with another application. Right-click on the patch file and select Properties.

structured Frame

2007-09-12 Thread Fred Ridder
Marcus, Marcus, Marcus. In the abstract, I completely agree with what you say. My postings in this thread, though, have been written to address the specific context of the original poster, who is a sole writer at a company which has a significant body of unstructured documentation, and who is

Numbering steams and flows

2007-09-12 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Steve: On 9/12/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: > > Hello Peter > > >Have you looked into: > > > >* Text insets for the two-column pieces - number streams increment > > No. Neat idea - I will. Let me understand what you are suggesting - set > 2-c material as 2-c in FrameMaker docs and then inset

Numbering steams and flows

2007-09-12 Thread Stuart Rogers
Steve Rickaby wrote: > I am forced to mix 1-column and 2-column layouts. I cannot use > tables, as the existing 1-c material that must go into 2-c already > contains tables. > > As we know from previous discussions here, the column layout is a > flow property rather than a page property, so I

Frame 7.2 and Vista

2007-09-12 Thread John Posada
> I installed Frame 7.2 (build 144) successfully but found I was unable to > install the patch to update it to build 158. > I know Frame 7.2 is not officially supported on Vista but I am not > currently in a position to upgrade to Frame 8. There's often a good reason why a company refuses to

structured Frame

2007-09-12 Thread Daniel Emory
The fundamental issue is Return on Investment (ROI), whether the staff is one writer or 100. Here are the major cost factors that must be evaluated: A Realizable positive values of a structured solution. 1. A breakdown of the identifiable costs of the current unstructured methodology which can

Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-12 Thread Lin Surasky
Hi all- Is there a known issue with vertical alignment in table cells (FM 7.2 on Windows XP, unstructured)? I don't use tables very often, but I have a small one that has a few narrow columns that contain asterisks to indicate whether a condition is met, and one column of text that describes the

Memory Leak

2007-09-12 Thread Kelly McDaniel
Folks, I'm running FrameMaker 7.0p579 on a Dell Dimension 8200 with a Pentium 4 2.53ghz chip and a gig of RAM. FrameMaker just crashed with its famous "got to quit" message. Will adding more memory help at all? Are there other hardware admin fixes you can suggest to keep the memory leaks

Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-12 Thread Stuart Rogers
Lin Surasky wrote: > Hi all- > > Is there a known issue with vertical alignment in table cells (FM 7.2 on > Windows XP, unstructured)? > > I don't use tables very often, but I have a small one that has a few > narrow columns that contain asterisks to indicate whether a condition is > met, and

Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-12 Thread Lin Surasky
Hi, Stuart- You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change things. The Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule of the table cell. The anchored frame idea is a good way to work around it, although if there's a setting

Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-12 Thread Fred Ridder
Well, unless Adobe broke something in FM7.2, I think there is something peculiar going on with your document. I have FM7.1 on my Windows XP laptop, and constructed a test table similar to what you have described. It works perfectly. All asterisks are (almost) centered both horizontally and

Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-12 Thread Lin Surasky
Nope, no Word weirdness. I created the table from scratch in Frame. There must be a setting someplace that I'm missing > -Original Message- > From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:21 PM > To: Lin Surasky > Cc: framers at

Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Lin Surasky wrote: > You know, I realized this after I sent the message off. But I > substituted Xs for the asterisks and it doesn't change > things. The Xs/asterisks are literally touching the top rule > of the table cell. Touching the top rule? Something's wrong there! You said earlier that

Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-12 Thread Lin Surasky
You're right. It's not touching, but it's close. Even if it's 4 pt from the border, it's still not centered. And I did double-check the table definition, and no negative numbers are used. The mis-alignment lessens as the rows get taller; the worst offender is with the row that's a single line

Memory Leak

2007-09-12 Thread Stuart Rogers
Kelly McDaniel wrote: > Folks, > > I'm running FrameMaker 7.0p579 on a Dell Dimension 8200 with a Pentium 4 > 2.53ghz chip and a gig of RAM. FrameMaker just crashed with its famous > "got to quit" message. > > Will adding more memory help at all? > > Are there other hardware admin fixes you can