Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Mike Wickham
This sounds a little like a bug I encountered in FrameMaker 9. If I used the arrow keys to scroll, the cursor moved extremely slowly and would travel at only about one character per second. I'm not sure what the issue was, but it occurred when the Paragraph Designer was open and got worse if

[Framers] OT: But following on from the "Processing Time" Discussion

2021-04-07 Thread A Craig
I'm about to have a new computer built to replace the 6-year-old old Win7 box I'm currently using. We bought a new computer last summer that I did a ton of research on to ensure we got something really good-but I don't have the time to devote to research at the moment and I'm hoping to spend

Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing FrameMaker

2021-04-07 Thread A Craig
Thanks, Reng. -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng Winfried Sent: April 6, 2021 10:43 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic Questions on Installing

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
FrameMaker 7 was the most reliable version I used, both on Mac and PC. I never owned FM8 but Jeremy Griffith of MIF2Go stuck with it as his primary testing version. FM9 was the release where Adobe added the super-buggy presentation layer on top of the legacy code, which was a weird choice since

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Peter Gold
You never know when attempting to speak for others, if you'll be right for all of them. Just to set things right, Steve, I thank you for saying that! :) The first FM I saw was v3 on a Mac in 1989. I took it personally when Adobe stopped advancing FM Mac development. However, I’m pleased that

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Lin Sims
You might also try posting on the Adobe FrameMakers forum: https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker/bd-p/framemaker -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
If you have an Intel CPU with Turbo Boost, make sure it isn't disabled in the BIOS. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Lin Sims
That does sound weird. I suggest you email Frame tech support directly: tcs...@adobe.com (or maybe it's techc...@adobe.com). On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 12:49 PM Harding, Dan wrote: > It's definitely pod-based. With 0 pods displayed, I can move quickly > through text using the keyboard and the CPU 1

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Lin Sims
Unstructured FrameMaker: Paragraph tags: 87 Character tags: 29 On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 12:25 PM Harding, Dan wrote: > Thank you for running the same test. I wonder why it ramps my CPU usage up > so high compared to yours. Would the number of Character formats or > Paragraph formats in the file

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Harding, Dan
Code bloat and sloppy programming IMO. Gone are the days when applications had to be economized to run in 640k of RAM and from a 360k floppy disk. Back then developers were forced to be efficient and optimize for CPU utilization, RAM usage, and install footprint. Now with a bajillion GB of RAM

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Steve Rickaby
Although I rarely use FrameMaker these days, I have read this discussion with interest. No-one is going to thank me for saying this, but doing heavy lifting with structured documents in PowerPC Frame v 7 on a 2003 Mac, I never noticed any performance issues. Odd. Of course the app is much

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Harding, Dan
It's definitely pod-based. With 0 pods displayed, I can move quickly through text using the keyboard and the CPU 1 load won't rise above 5%. However, as I display more pods on the screen, the load ramps higher, with Character Designer and especially Paragraph Designer being the worst offenders.

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Harding, Dan
Thank you for running the same test. I wonder why it ramps my CPU usage up so high compared to yours. Would the number of Character formats or Paragraph formats in the file or installed font families on the system impact this? I'll try stripping out extraneous formats and see if that does

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Lin Sims
I just checked on my system. Having the paragraph catalog open while moving the cursor through my document using the keyboard does increase usage, but only to about 3%. I'm actually not surprised by that, since the cursor is moving through the paragraph tags and the catalog reflects whatever tag

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Harding, Dan
Follow-up: Just to be sure, I uninstalled all previous and coexisting versions of FrameMaker, and completely reinstalled FM 2019 64-bit. Same behavior. I find it interesting that under the Apps section in task manager, if you expand FrameMaker, it's running something called "Legacy32.exe (32

Re: [Framers] Processing time

2021-04-07 Thread Harding, Dan
Art, I can't tell if your reply is intended tongue in cheek or not. A core i9 with 64GB of Ram is lightweight? According to CPU & RAM meters, the system isn't even using 27% of RAM when under load running Frame, and of the 20 CPU cores, Frame only utilizes one of them which it pegs to 100%;