Re: [Framers] Superscript and Subscript

2021-08-11 Thread Craig Ede
Alison, I can’t quite tell if you have too much space or not enough space (see red text in your message). The only thing I remember is that you can lock the line spacing so that these elements that stick up or down don’t affect the leading at all, but that usually makes things cramped. That

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread Peter Gold
Such a simple and clean source doc-set in Word might be as trouble-free. Flare prices remind me of FM-UNIX prices of the 1990s. Affinity offers ten-day free trials. On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 7:42 PM Robert Lauriston wrote: > Ten years ago I found that Flare did an excellent job of >

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
Ten years ago I found that Flare did an excellent job of "round-tripping" a FrameMaker book. There was one minor thing that got lost, they might have fixed that since. The book in question was very clean, absolutely consistent formatting with short, minimalist sets of paragraph and character tags

Re: [Framers] Superscript and Subscript

2021-08-11 Thread tammyvb spectrumwritingllc . com
Text options allow you to adjust the location of subscripts and superscripts and you can apply globally across all files in a book Sent from my iPhone. Pardon the typos. > On Aug 11, 2021, at 6:03 PM, A Craig wrote: > >  > I have a few superscript and a lot of subscript markings in my book.

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread techwordsmith
Round-tripping is just a bad plan. Cheers, Sean -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:27 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer. ... Thinking about the

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread Peter Gold
... Thinking about the alternate routes through Affinity Publisher and InDesign moved me to try this web search query: "affinity publisher compatibility with other application file formats" Some interesting results abide there. Marxware has some conversion tools, as well as links to some

[Framers] Superscript and Subscript

2021-08-11 Thread A Craig
I have a few superscript and a lot of subscript markings in my book. The markings are especially annoying, particularly in tables, as they don't leave enough space above the superscript so the table line above it so it looks crammed into the space. And Frame rearranges the leading for both

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread techwordsmith
Acrobat 11 Pro here. -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 7:12 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer. I still use Adobe Acrobat Standard 8 on my current

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
I still use Adobe Acrobat Standard 8 on my current computer, which is running 64-bit Windows 10. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer

2021-08-11 Thread Michael Heine
Licensecrawler (www dot klinzmann dot name) will read out your Adobe licenses -- if that's the missing reference. Might not get you through the online registration, but it's step 1. Cheers, Mike On 11.8.2021 16:02, framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com wrote: Actually, on my old laptop I have

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread tammyvb spectrumwritingllc . com
No, it is not possible to buy from Adobe. There are resellers from whom you can buy a standalone FM2019 license. TVB Sent from my iPhone. Pardon the typos. > On Aug 11, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Shalom Bresticker > wrote: > >  >> >> Do I understand from all of this that FrameMaker is no longer

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread Shalom Bresticker
> Do I understand from all of this that FrameMaker is no longer sold *at all* as a stand-alone product (ie, subscription method only)? My understanding is that it is still possible to buy a permanent license for FM 2019, which is the last version that runs on Windows 7. That is what an Adobe

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread techwordsmith
I recall when hardware was way more expensive than software. No longer. Also, the subscription model is like leasing a car, and does not work for me. I went back from Photoshop and Illustrator to CorelDRAW! Because of this. It looks like I am phasing out my irregular use of FrameMaker, too,

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread techwordsmith
Thanks for the update, Bodvar. I am on FM 15, using it little, likely jumping ship soon. I feel old. I remember when FM was cutting edge. No longer. Cheers! Sean -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Böðvar Björgvinsson Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 3:44 PM To: framers

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
He was referring to the recent two-revs-back upgrade price: essentially a full new license. I am old school perhaps, but I _absolutely_ do not like subscription license models for software. The phrase "death by a thousand cuts" comes to mind.  I never used FrameMaker _all_ the time. I

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread Peter Gold
Have you considered opening and saving your FM 2015 (and earlier) files as MIF and also as one or more common interchangeable formats, using books, and/or scripts, to create a stored legacy? It would be interesting to hear what you find about Affinity <-> InDesign conversion. Dtptools' MIF Filter

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Thanks for all the replies. I can see that more people than me are having a problem of this kind. Actually, on my old laptop I have FM2015, which I love, but am not able to use on my new desktop (all references missing), so FM 10 will have to do. I will have a lot of work to do to change my

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Nope, as of FM2020, it's subscription-only; no perpetual licenses. From: Framers on behalf of A Craig Sent: August 11, 2021 12:52 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker, software. Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer. Do I

Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread A Craig
Do I understand from all of this that FrameMaker is no longer sold *at all* as a stand-alone product (ie, subscription method only)? If it *is* still sold as a stand-alone product and you occasionally take a course or 2 at a local accredited (per Adobe standards) college or university, see