Re: [Framers] Contents of Framers digest... Why so many of us feel the way we do....

2021-10-19 Thread Art Campbell
Since I've only used FrameMaker and this list and others list it since the FrameMaker 2 release sometime back in the 1990s, I may not be as qualified as you in deciding what is acceptable list content... But I have a strong feeling that FrameMaker's usability, both for a given task and usability

Re: [Framers] Contents of Framers digest... Why so many of us feel the way we do....

2021-10-19 Thread Wim iDTP
Hi all, can we go back to where this list is ment for: help eachother out with FrameMaker issues. If you don’t use FM (anymore) or don’t like FM (anymore) or don’t want to pay for FM (anymore) - that’s up to you. This list is for FrameMaker users. Let’s stick to that. Thanks! Vriendelijke

Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

2021-10-19 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Thanks! I couldn't agree with you more! :thumbsup And years ago, I think it was even less than $400 to upgrade - heck the cost of a license was around that much (although this may be wishful recollection on my part! ) Z Shmuel Wolfson said: > At one point it was $400 to upgrade up to two

Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

2021-10-19 Thread Robert Lauriston
I suspect the main reason Adobe did not discontinue FrameMaker 20 years ago and has continued to sell it is the significant revenue streams from large customers such as Boeing who built complex toolchains using structured FrameMaker and the Framemaker development kit.

Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

2021-10-19 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
At one point it was $400 to upgrade up to two versions back. That was reasonable. Every few years I would ask my employer to upgrade. Then the price shot up to $400 for one version back, $600 for two versions back, and full price after that. That's when I just gave up and said I'll stick with