Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? and SetPrint Qs

2021-06-11 Thread Peter Gold
Thanks for the chuckle, Wendy. Since you're talking about lawyers here, perhaps cite an episode of "The Good Wife," in which Nathan Lane's character advises the all-hands-on-deck team that's buried in zillions of pages of discovery documents, that the key information they'll need to win the giant

Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? and SetPrint Qs

2021-06-11 Thread Fred Ridder
https://sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm From: Framers on behalf of Wendy McGovern Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:38 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? and SetPrint

Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? and SetPrint Qs

2021-06-11 Thread Reng Winfried
2:39 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? and SetPrint Qs I appreciate the feedback for my questions, especially the positive notes from Reng Winfried and Lin Sims about Frame 2020. (It helps to hear that somebody

Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? and SetPrint Qs

2021-06-11 Thread Wendy McGovern
I appreciate the feedback for my questions, especially the positive notes from Reng Winfried and Lin Sims about Frame 2020. (It helps to hear that somebody actually does have some good experience with the software.) I would like to try the free trial of the new version but don't know if our IT

Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

2021-06-09 Thread Peter Gold
Argh... Ghosts and legacies of last-century engineering design. InDesign's composition engine was born smart, and kept evolving. ID overall has gotten closer and closer to FM technical authoring and book tool set. But, the cost of migrating individual authors, tech-publishing departments, and

Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

2021-06-09 Thread Graeme R Forbes
Klause Daube wrote: “Fact is: FM 16...just moves the whole note to be on the same page as the reference number, leaving a big ugly gap on the page.” And it’s 2021. Extraordinary. It’s not as if Adobe doesn’t employ people who know how to do footnotes — they work fine in InDesign. So I guess

Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

2021-06-09 Thread Peter Gold
When I've had to wrestle with this issue, if there was time, and willingness to cooperate, I'd try to work with the author to re-write or re-order the material. Yes, madness, but doesn't page beauty someone's justify it. On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 2:03 AM Klaus Daube wrote: > On 8 Jun 2021 at 15:25,

Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

2021-06-09 Thread Klaus Daube
On 9 Jun 2021 at 14:48, Craig Ede wrote: > So which does it do? The first (like Word) or the second > option Wendy describes? Oh, sorry, my sententence contains plenty of ambigoutiy. Fact is: FM 16 (aka 2020) just moves the whole note to be on the same page as the reference number, leaving a

Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

2021-06-09 Thread Craig Ede
So which does it do? The first (like Word) or the second option Wendy describes? Craig Wendy McGovern wrote: > I'm still a little skeptical, though, whether the new version actually > "splits" > the footnote like Word does and puts part of the note on the

Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

2021-06-09 Thread Klaus Daube
On 8 Jun 2021 at 15:25, Wendy McGovern wrote: > I'm still a little skeptical, though, whether the new version actually > "splits" > the footnote like Word does and puts part of the note on the next page or > whether the new Frame just moves the whole note to be on the same page as the >

Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

2021-06-08 Thread Reng Winfried
: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? Hi, Framers! We have been using Frame 7.0 forever and it has always been stable and worked for us, so we never upgraded (especially after hearing complaints from this list about the interface, problems, etc. of subsequent

Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

2021-06-08 Thread Lin Sims
On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 11:25 AM Wendy McGovern wrote: > Hi, Framers! > > I'm still a little skeptical, though, whether the new version actually > "splits" the footnote like Word does and puts part of the note on the next > page or whether the new Frame just moves the whole note to be on the same

Re: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

2021-06-08 Thread Ragnar Hanås
2021 17:25 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages? Hi, Framers! We have been using Frame 7.0 forever and it has always been stable and worked for us, so we never upgraded (especially after hearing complaints from this

[Framers] Does new FrameMaker actually split footnotes across pages?

2021-06-08 Thread Wendy McGovern
Hi, Framers! We have been using Frame 7.0 forever and it has always been stable and worked for us, so we never upgraded (especially after hearing complaints from this list about the interface, problems, etc. of subsequent versions). We do have font issues in creating PDFs with the latest