Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-28 Thread Lin Sims
th file size >> reduction - each of which independently is fine. >> >> Z >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Framers >> On Behalf Of Lin Sims >> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 2:09 PM >> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker soft

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-28 Thread Lin Sims
software. < > framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output > > For those who may (or may not) be interested, I tried creating a PDF from > the same TOC file after substituting different fonts in. The PDF generated > from the TOCs using either

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-25 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
independently is fine. Z -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 2:09 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output For those who may (or may not) be interested, I

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-25 Thread Peter Gold
Thanks for persevering on this issue, Lin. Good to hear that it's paying off in Adobe's finally giving what seems serious attention to the kind of seemingly-trivial problem that's really a serious flaw. Back in the day, I spent a few weeks tracking-down a consistent product misbehavior that gave

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-25 Thread Lin Sims
For those who may (or may not) be interested, I tried creating a PDF from the same TOC file after substituting different fonts in. The PDF generated from the TOCs using either Open Sans or Calibri were even WORSE than the one created using Source Sans Pro. However, the one generated from a TOC

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-18 Thread Lin Sims
The last time I was successful was August 2019 and I was using FM2019, so yes, that's changed. Acrobat is on subscription, so that's changed. Windows has updated a time or two, so that's changed. This is the only document this is happening in, but it's also the only document using the word

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-17 Thread Peter Gold
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 3:31 PM Lin Sims wrote: > Sometimes they do, and they also wander through the Adobe FrameMaker forum > from time to time. I might ping Amitoj and ask him to read this thread and > the concurrent thread there. Or enter a bug in the tracker, but this is > such an oddball

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-15 Thread Lin Sims
t: Monday, September 14, 2020 8:16 PM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < > framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output > > Interesting. The problem is that you're seeing the issue after using > Reduce S

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-15 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
- From: Framers On Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 8:16 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output Interesting. The problem is that you're seeing the issue after using Reduce Size. I'm seeing it before

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-14 Thread Lin Sims
September 14, 2020 3:22 PM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < > framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output > > Interesting! > > The page works in FlexiPDF (my other tool), albeit with some overlapping &

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-14 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
2020 3:22 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output Interesting! The page works in FlexiPDF (my other tool), albeit with some overlapping text (probably implying a font problem, I guess). In Adobe Acrobat Pro, I get an error

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-14 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
- From: Framers On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 3:10 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output Hmmm ... I don't know if the attached screen-capture will come through on this list

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-14 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
nal Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2020 7:01 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output I haven't seen any error messages. I hope that's not the case. Our corporate font is Open Sans

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-13 Thread Lin Sims
. > > Z > > -Original Message- > From: Framers > On Behalf Of Lin Sims > Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 9:58 AM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < > framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird spacing

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-13 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
alf Of Lin Sims Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 9:58 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output Peter > > Seriously, I'm sure you have tried changing the source, say, with a > different word, or if it's a text vari

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-12 Thread Lin Sims
Rounding error? Damn. I got to be special again. On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 10:28 PM Peter Gold wrote: > IMO, a rounding error in the Save As > PDF vs Print > PDF, from your > assiduous testing and reporting, seems the most likely. > -- Lin Sims

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-12 Thread Peter Gold
IMO, a rounding error in the Save As > PDF vs Print > PDF, from your assiduous testing and reporting, seems the most likely. On Sat, Sep 12, 2020, 9:13 PM Lin Sims wrote: > There were two markers in the source paragraphs, one for the TOC xref link > and one for an Index marker. I moved the

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-12 Thread Lin Sims
There were two markers in the source paragraphs, one for the TOC xref link and one for an Index marker. I moved the Index marker. No good. There was a hard space between the word Pulse and the word Software. I took it out and replaced it with a regular space. Also no good. I deleted and RETYPED

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 16:46 -0400 11/9/20, Lin Sims wrote: >This is only happening with 2 entries in the entire TOC. In the TOC, they >look identical to all the other entries in the TOC. I've checked the >paragraph tags in both the original files and the TOC files and they are >the same. But in the PDF created from

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-12 Thread Lin Sims
Spellcheck did indeed used to replace Interleaf with FrameMaker, but I don't think it does anymore. When it converts from Frame to PDF, that will make the link unclickable. Also, I really don't want to have to apply a character tag to text created in a generated document every time I regenerate

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-12 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Lin: AHA! It's a secret plot of some kind. I remember there was a time long ago, when FM's auto-correct would replace "InterLeaf" or some other proprietary competitor, with "FrameMaker." The word-spacing computation might have a rounding error when it encounters specific glyph combinations

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-12 Thread Lin Sims
Peter > > Seriously, I'm sure you have tried changing the source, say, with a > different word, or if it's a text variable try plain text, or is a > character tag applied, or if it's a corporate-name font, swap it, etc. Is > the font customized to apply special kerning or spacing to specific glyph

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-12 Thread Doug
Experiment by making changes to the source. For instance, insert Pulse Software before the word "Pulse", and PDF it again. Observe the results. If the new words display fine, delete everything after them and PDF it again. Observe the results. You might be able to fix it, even if you might

Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-11 Thread Peter Gold
It's a no-brainer, Lin! It's "social distancing. :) Seriously, I'm sure you have tried changing the source, say, with a different word, or if it's a text variable try plain text, or is a character tag applied, or if it's a corporate-name font, swap it, etc. Is the font customized to apply special

[Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

2020-09-11 Thread Lin Sims
This is only happening with 2 entries in the entire TOC. In the TOC, they look identical to all the other entries in the TOC. I've checked the paragraph tags in both the original files and the TOC files and they are the same. But in the PDF created from that TOC, the text for those two headings is