Re: Docbook bookfile

2014-11-21 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
I’ll redefine my question: for a specific use case I’m investigating the option of using a docbook book file to let my client edit and maintain their docbook-based xml files in a book-like setting. Analog to the ditamap. Now when I open a docbook book file in FM, FM converts it directly

Re: Docbook bookfile

2014-11-21 Thread Heiko Haida
). best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp: I'll redefine my question: for a specific use case I'm investigating the option of using a docbook book file to let my client edit and maintain their docbook-based xml files in a book-like setting. Analog to the ditamap. Now

Re: Docbook bookfile

2014-11-21 Thread Alan Houser
Whoa ... FrameMaker has supported Docbook for many releases. But the support is generally poor, and is for a relatively ancient version of DocBook (4.1). Anybody who attempts to use FrameMaker for a real Docbook-based workflow (particularly for authoring) is in for a lot of hurt. Which

Re: Docbook bookfile

2014-11-21 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Thanks all … for your kind concerns about me trying to do a docbook experiment in the DITA ages …. I have been working with docbook (variants) already back in the FrameMaker 5.5 days, so support for docbook has been there in FM, I know. And it still is. In the early days this support

Re: Docbook bookfile

2014-11-20 Thread Robert Lauriston
FrameMaker 12 is alleged to support DocBook. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp w...@idtp.eu wrote: Hi, are there any docbook users out there …? I want to make a docbook book file with referenced 'chapters' (xml). To be maintained in Framemaker as XML. Is that possible

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread rebecca officer
You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=28_3products_id=10. I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for your replies, everyone. It's been very helpful! Rebecca Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz 10/07/13 15:31

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Rebecca Officer wrote: ? You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=28_3products_id=10http://comtech-serv.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=28_3products_id=10. ? I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for the

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Kindle books do _not_ require a live Internet connection while reading! ___ You are

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Robert Lauriston said: Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. Yes, they are good in many ways, but PDFs don't flow across pages as smoothly as Kindle documents on a Kindle when things like the font-size, etc., are changed. Z

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Rebecca Officer wrote: ? You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_info=28_3_id=10. ? I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for the info, Rebecca! 1. Do

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > Kindle books do _not_ require a live Internet connection while reading!

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Robert Lauriston said: > Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. Yes, they are good in many ways, but PDFs don't flow across pages as smoothly as Kindle documents on a Kindle when things like the font-size, etc., are changed. Z

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
If you can't find another option, you can have it forwarded to you by this company: http://www.shipito.com/shop-pricing They give you a US address to ship it to, and then they forward it to you. There are a few company that do mail forwarding, but I found this one to be the cheapest. It would

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Rebecca Your to-do list is pretty accurate. I've added my comments below, preceded by [Yves] On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:49 AM, rebecca officer rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz wrote: Hi everyone Thanks very much for your answers. I really appreciate the expertise on this list. [Yves]

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Writer
Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :( Alan On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote: Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. Nadine This is a really good book for getting experience in using

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :( Alan On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote: > Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. > > Nadine > >> >> This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found >> that the sample

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
If you can't find another option, you can have it forwarded to you by this company: http://www.shipito.com/shop-pricing They give you a US address to ship it to, and then they forward it to you. There are a few company that do mail forwarding, but I found this one to be the cheapest. It would

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Rebecca Your to-do list is pretty accurate. I've added my comments below, preceded by [Yves]>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:49 AM, rebecca officer < rebecca.officer at alliedtelesis.co.nz> wrote: Hi everyone Thanks very much for your answers. I really appreciate the expertise on this list.

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Writer
What about directly from Comtech Services??http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_info=28_3_id=10 Nadine - Original Message - > From: Alan T Litchfield > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 11:31:49 PM > Subject: Re:

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread rebecca officer
You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_info=28_3_id=10. I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for your replies, everyone. It's been very helpful! Rebecca >>> Alan T Litchfield 10/07/13 15:31 >>> Unfortunately, that book

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Rebecca I don't think any content maps perfectly to DITA, which is logical. But then again, you can specialize DITA to make it match your content. Some will even say that DITA must be specialized. Others have already given you some good arguments in favor of DITA or DocBook. With DITA, you

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread John Sgammato
of what you save by using DITA/docbook instead of developing your own schema? The content maps reasonably well to DITA, but not perfectly. I'm trying to figure out whether we're better off working within the limitations of DITA, or whether we should take the DIY approach. A clear list of what you

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
Okay, I'll start from the assumption that DITA or Docbook as standards are the way to go if you don't want to spend all kinds of time and money on development. Of course changing to DITA or Docbook will cost time and money, too. Just less of both. So which: DITA or Docbook DITA is much

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
or similar text had to change as well. The conversion process uncovered numerous places where such changes had been not been done or was done incompletely. Craig snipped- IMHO, Docbook vs DITA is a choice between ecosystems. While Docbook is leaning towards the narrative, and DITA

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know about DITA, but all the basics are there.

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
Amen to that! Craig -Original Message- And unless you're very clever, it's easy to paint yourself into a corner with an in-house system. It might be simple to develop something for what your needs are now, but you neglect to make it open-ended or scalable for whatever changes you need

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Writer
Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. Nadine This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :( Alan On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote: Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. Nadine This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found that the sample application

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Rebecca I don't think any content maps perfectly to DITA, which is logical. But then again, you can specialize DITA to make it match your content. Some will even say that DITA must be specialized. Others have already given you some good arguments in favor of DITA or DocBook. With DITA, you

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
or similar text had to change as well. The conversion process uncovered numerous places where such changes had been not been done or was done incompletely. Craig snipped- IMHO, Docbook vs DITA is a choice between ecosystems. While Docbook is leaning towards the narrative, and DITA towards

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know about DITA, but all the basics are there.

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
Amen to that! Craig -Original Message- And unless you're very clever, it's easy to paint yourself into a corner with an in-house system. It might be "simple" to develop something for what your needs are now, but you neglect to make it open-ended or scalable for whatever changes you

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Writer
Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. Nadine > >This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found >that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to >implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread rebecca officer
Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of what you save by using DITA/docbook instead of developing your own schema? The content maps reasonably well to DITA, but not perfectly. I'm trying to figure out whether we're better off working within the limitations of DITA, or whether we should take

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Writer
portability... Nadine From: Alan Houser a...@groupwellesley.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 6:50:36 PM Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema I gotta generally agree with Matt. Occasionally I run

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread rebecca officer
Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of what you save by using DITA/docbook instead of developing your own schema? The content maps reasonably well to DITA, but not perfectly. I'm trying to figure out whether we're better off working within the limitations of DITA, or whether we should take

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Matt Sullivan
A list of what you'll save using DITA or DocBook rather than creating your own schema: Time Money (Hey, someone had to say it?) -Matt On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:06 AM, "rebecca officer" wrote: > Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of what you save by using DITA/docbo

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Kristy Nolan
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DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Matt Sullivan
wrote: > I will add frustration to that list. We have modified a version of DocBook > called FlightBook. The modification of the modification leads to many issues > in getting the pieces to work together. By sticking with the standard, there > should not be as many issues.

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Alan Houser
references, images, etc. The latter set can be a bit tricky. Plus, oh, your metadata. With DITA or DocBook, you also get a publishing framework. Also usually non-trivial to create from scratch, especially if you are publishing to multiple output formats, using filtering, content re-use, etc. I'

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Scott Prentice
All good info. More reasons to use DITA or DocBook is the availability of off-the-shelf authoring, publishing, and file management (CMS) tools. Also, personnel support (authoring and development) .. it is much easier to find people to work on one of the "standards" than your cu

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Writer
en there's portability... Nadine > > From: Alan Houser >To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" >Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 6:50:36 PM >Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema > > > >I gotta generally agree with Matt. Occasional

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread John Sgammato
lear list of what you save by using > DITA/docbook instead of developing your own schema? > > The content maps reasonably well to DITA, but not perfectly. I'm trying to > figure out whether we're better off working within the limitations of DITA, > or whether we should take the DI

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Craig Ede
Okay, I'll start from the assumption that DITA or Docbook as standards are the way to go if you don't want to spend all kinds of time and money on development. Of course changing to DITA or Docbook will cost time and money, too. Just less of both. So which: DITA or Docbook DITA is much more

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-09 Thread qui...@airmail.net
, it would be easier to simply open the FM files in Structured FrameMaker and add the structure there. Scott > > Hi Mathieu, > > Frame ships with a DocBook structured application. ([Frame installation > folder]\structure\sgml\docbook\app) which includes the EDD and a starter > temp

Re: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-08 Thread LW White
Hi Mathieu, Frame ships with a DocBook structured application. ([Frame installation folder]\structure\sgml\docbook\app) which includes the EDD and a starter template. So, what you would do is basically open your DocBook files using the DocBook structured app, which is called something like

Re: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-08 Thread quills
, it would be easier to simply open the FM files in Structured FrameMaker and add the structure there. Scott Hi Mathieu, Frame ships with a DocBook structured application. ([Frame installation folder]\structure\sgml\docbook\app) which includes the EDD and a starter template. So, what you would

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-08 Thread LW White
Hi Mathieu, Frame ships with a DocBook structured application. ([Frame installation folder]\structure\sgml\docbook\app) which includes the EDD and a starter template. So, what you would do is basically open your DocBook files using the DocBook structured app, which is called something like

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread mathieu jacquet
Hi everybody, I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the proper EDD. I am not familiar at all with structured Frame. So my question is, how easy

RE: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread mathieu jacquet
Well, I have not been clear enough. We actually have a lot of content in DocBook, and very little in unstructured FM (one book only, 3 chapters, about 75 pages) so far. The thing is, if we need structured FM to import DocBook files, then I'd like also to turn my unstructured book

Re: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread James L
Hi everybody, I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the proper EDD. I am not familiar at all with structured Frame. So my question is, how easy

Re: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread Steve Johnson
, I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the proper EDD. I am not familiar at all with structured Frame. So my question is, how easy is it to import

RE: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread mathieu jacquet
My post might be unclear because I do not know neither DocBook nor structured Frame. I created a Getting Started Guide in unstructured Frame. As said before, it is really light (cover, TOC, LOF, LOT, 3 chapters). The client is very happy with styles, content, etc. Now, he is telling me

Re: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I really don't know docbook, but *if* you can export it as a .doc file or .rtf, you can open it straight in frame. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 07-Jul-10 4:30 PM, Steve Johnson wrote: If it's that little content I would bring it in as plain text and reformat

Re: From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 7/7/2010 8:56 AM, mathieu jacquet wrote: Hi everybody, I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the proper EDD. I am not familiar at all

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread mathieu jacquet
Hi everybody, I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the proper EDD. I am not familiar at all with structured Frame. So my question is, how easy

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread mathieu jacquet
Well, I have not been clear enough. We actually have a lot of content in DocBook, and very little in unstructured FM (one book only, 3 chapters, about 75 pages) so far. The thing is, if we need structured FM to import DocBook files, then I'd like also to turn my unstructured book

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread James L
> > Hi everybody, > > I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. > > I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've > also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the > proper EDD. I am not familiar at all with structured Frame.

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread Steve Johnson
I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. > > I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've > also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the > proper EDD. I am not familiar at all with structured Frame. So my question > is, how eas

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread mathieu jacquet
My post might be unclear because I do not know neither DocBook nor structured Frame. I created a Getting Started Guide in unstructured Frame. As said before, it is really light (cover, TOC, LOF, LOT, 3 chapters). The client is very happy with styles, content, etc. Now, he is telling me

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I really don't know docbook, but *if* you can export it as a .doc file or .rtf, you can open it straight in frame. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 07-Jul-10 4:30 PM, Steve Johnson wrote: > If it's that little content I would bring it in as plain text and > re

From DocBook to FrameMaker

2010-07-07 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 7/7/2010 8:56 AM, mathieu jacquet wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I am working on Vista 64 with FM 9. > > I have read that it was possible to import DocBook files into FM. But I've > also read that this could turn to nightmare when it comes to create the > proper EDD. I a

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-28 Thread Garnier Garnier
Hello Framers, ? Thanks to all who have responded to my request. It is sincerely appreciated.. Special thanks to Gary Schnabl for providing multiple feedback. ? The response will definitely help me to evaluate DocBook further. ? Regards Garnier ? -Original Message- From: framers-bounces

RE: Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-27 Thread Garnier Garnier
Hello Framers,   Thanks to all who have responded to my request. It is sincerely appreciated.. Special thanks to Gary Schnabl for providing multiple feedback.   The response will definitely help me to evaluate DocBook further.   Regards Garnier   -Original Message- From: framers-boun

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Garnier Garnier
Hello Listers,   I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch to but involves a very deep learning curve

Re: Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Garnier Garnier wrote: Hello Listers, I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch to but involves

Re: Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Art Campbell wrote: Gary, Hasn't 5.1 been released to fix the problems that 5.0 had? I was hearing about it, but don't use it (yet) so I haven't tracked it down. Art Found this while searching for 5.1: DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 15 April 2009 View: New views

RE: Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Mollye Barrett
I have used DocBook for many years. As a structure model, DocBook is robust and met all our needs for documenting heavy equipment in 24 languages. It is well developed and well supported. Given the development work is done up front, some people learn quickly while others struggle

Re: Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Garnier Garnier wrote: Hello Listers, I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch to but involves

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Garnier Garnier
Hello Listers, ? I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch to but involves a very deep learning curve

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Garnier Garnier wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it > or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went > through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch &g

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Art Campbell
girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Gary Schnabl wrote: > Garnier Garnier wrote: >> Hello Listers, >> >>

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Art Campbell wrote: > Gary, > Hasn't 5.1 been released to fix the problems that 5.0 had? I was > hearing about it, but don't use it (yet) so I haven't tracked it down. > > Art > > Art Campbell > I did not know that 5.1 was available. The DTD nonnormative version of 5.0 was admittedly

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Art Campbell wrote: > Gary, > Hasn't 5.1 been released to fix the problems that 5.0 had? I was > hearing about it, but don't use it (yet) so I haven't tracked it down. > > Art > Found this while searching for 5.1: DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 15 April 200

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Mollye Barrett
I have used DocBook for many years. As a structure model, DocBook is robust and met all our needs for documenting heavy equipment in 24 languages. It is well developed and well supported. Given the development work is done up front, some people learn quickly while others struggle

Request Info on DocBook

2009-07-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Garnier Garnier wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it > or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went > through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch &g

RE: FM9 DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 -- FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-22 Thread Diane Gaskill
Thank you very much Lynn. This helps a lot. Diane -Original Message- From: Lynne A. Price [mailto:lpr...@txstruct.com] Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 1:08 PM To: Diane Gaskill; Frame Users; Free Framers Subject: Re: FM9 DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 -- FM9 worth the money

FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-22 Thread Diane Gaskill
Thank you very much Lynn. This helps a lot. Diane -Original Message- From: Lynne A. Price [mailto:lpr...@txstruct.com] Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 1:08 PM To: Diane Gaskill; Frame Users; Free Framers Subject: Re: FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth th

Re: FM9 DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 -- FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-20 Thread Lynne A. Price
At 11:36 AM 6/18/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote: Here's another FM9 question. I can't find anything on the Adobe website about this. Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later than 4.2? FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious limitations. Unfortunately, we cannot

FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-20 Thread Lynne A. Price
At 11:36 AM 6/18/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote: >Here's another FM9 question. I can't find anything on the Adobe website >about this. Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later >than 4.2? FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious >limitations. Unfortunatel

Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Crimmin, Peter
[cross-posted to TECHWR-L mailing list] Can anyone recommend technologies to do the following: * Hosted documentation, available on the internet as a web service. * Each doc topic allows users to add comments. (e.g. Here's a better example to do this task...) * Management

RE: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Michael O'Neill
One additional note, MoinMoin wiki can be configured to allow users to output content as/via/through (not sure of the right terminology) DocBook. I haven't explored this yet to see whether that's HTML output or PDF output (or both). This is something I'd like to know more about, as to me

RE: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Shuttleworth, Roger
, Canada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael O'Neill Sent: October 31, 2008 3:16 PM To: Crimmin, Peter; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?) One additional note, MoinMoin

Re: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
help, but in that case you should also look at DITA-FMx: http://www.leximation.com/dita-fmx/ Either way, going from DITA to/from wiki sounds like a very good way to go. While DocBook is a lot older, DITA can do everything DocBook can, and much much more. For a discussion on that point, see

Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Crimmin, Peter
task...") * Management tools to moderate user comments, and to handle documentation updates (retaining the comments). * Authoring tools to produce said documentation. The open source community exploits these technologies. How do they do it? I have an inkling for a solution: FrameMaker>DocBo

Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Michael O'Neill
s-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Crimmin, Peter Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:49 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?) [cross-posted to TECHWR-L mailing list] Can

Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Michael O'Neill
One additional note, MoinMoin wiki can be configured to allow users to output content as/via/through (not sure of the right terminology) DocBook. I haven't explored this yet to see whether that's HTML output or PDF output (or both). This is something I'd like to know more about, as to me

Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Shuttleworth, Roger
comments (DocBook?) One additional note, MoinMoin wiki can be configured to allow users to output content as/via/through (not sure of the right terminology) DocBook. I haven't explored this yet to see whether that's HTML output or PDF output (or both). This is something I'd like to know more about

Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)

2008-10-31 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
ad, Mif2Go can still help, but in that case you should also look at DITA-FMx: http://www.leximation.com/dita-fmx/ Either way, going from DITA to/from wiki sounds like a very good way to go. While DocBook is a lot older, DITA can do everything DocBook can, and much much more. For a discussion o

Announce: Mr. XML Publisher for DocBook

2008-02-04 Thread Steve Whitlatch
This announcement might be of interest to structured FrameMaker users who use DocBook XML. The Mr. XML Publisher for DocBook website can produce documentation in many formats, but for PDF you probably want to use your local Acrobat software. That's what I do when using FrameMaker. Announcing

Announce: Mr. XML Publisher for DocBook

2008-02-03 Thread Steve Whitlatch
This announcement might be of interest to structured FrameMaker users who use DocBook XML. The Mr. XML Publisher for DocBook website can produce documentation in many formats, but for PDF you probably want to use your local Acrobat software. That's what I do when using FrameMaker. Announcing

DITA, DOCBOOK and Structured FrameMaker

2007-06-23 Thread Purificacion Romero Gomez
Hello Framers, I work for software designer company in Spain. We're looking a trainer for Structured FrameMaker: building EDD, structured applications, etc. I'would like know if you know a trainer, speaking spanish, who can help us or if you recommended a online course of this.

DITA, DOCBOOK and Structured FrameMaker

2007-06-22 Thread Purificacion Romero Gomez
Hello Framers, I work for software designer company in Spain. We're looking a trainer for Structured FrameMaker: building EDD, structured applications, etc. I'would like know if you know a trainer, speaking spanish, who can help us or if you recommended a online course of this. Yours

Transforming .XML from .MIF to DocBook

2007-06-21 Thread Pierce Tyler
Can anyone point me in the direction of examples, utilities, mailing list threads, anything (!) to help with using XSLT to transform .XML files (created from .MIF files) to DocBook? Here's the process flow we're looking at: .FM - .MIF - mif2xml - .XML - XSLT - DocBook Any suggestions much

Transforming .XML from .MIF to DocBook

2007-06-21 Thread Pierce Tyler
Can anyone point me in the direction of examples, utilities, mailing list threads, anything (!) to help with using XSLT to transform .XML files (created from .MIF files) to DocBook? Here's the process flow we're looking at: .FM -> .MIF -> mif2xml -> .XML -> XSLT -> DocBook

Re: Which is better, FM with DocBook or DITA

2007-06-10 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:56 +0100 8/6/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: If you decide to follow the DocBook route, you might be interested in the packaged DocBook product, DocFrame, from Scriptorium Press, which is designed to take some of the pain out of using DocBook with FrameMaker: http://www.scriptorium.com/docframe

Which is better, FM with DocBook or DITA

2007-06-10 Thread mc...@allette.com.au
Diane Gaskill wrote: > Now I have another question, almost as complicated. Structured FM can > work with both OASIS XML standards: DocBook and DITA. But which one is > the better standard to use? Or does it make any difference? One of our > divisions in Japan has decided on AT

Which is better, FM with DocBook or DITA

2007-06-10 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:56 +0100 8/6/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: >If you decide to follow the DocBook route, you might be interested in the >packaged DocBook product, DocFrame, from Scriptorium Press, which is designed >to take some of the pain out of using DocBook with FrameMaker: > ><http://w

RE: Which is better, FM with DocBook or DITA

2007-06-08 Thread Sarah O'Keefe
I appreciate the mention of DocFrame, but it's not a DocBook implementation___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http

Which is better, FM with DocBook or DITA

2007-06-08 Thread Gordon McLean
) and using the standard to help control the input (using FM as the editor). If not then the following may still be of use but not a direct answer. You can specialise (customise) either to meet your specific needs. In a nutshell, and I'm not expert but from what I've read etc etc, DocBook looks very

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