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To: Brian Weis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: More Elegant Indexing Solution
Of course! Why didn't I remember that?
To simplify things a little further, create the following character tags:
I -- Italic (Angle = Italic
It looks like this question has already been answered. This Index Mark only
affects the specific occurence of its page number. Order in the document
does not matter.
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On 5/8/07, Reng, Winfried Dr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Just curious: Does this also work when the
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> Of Brian Weis
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:43 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: More Elegant Indexing Solution
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> I've already responded to Kevin, and we have a
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Behalf Of Reng, Winfried Dr.
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:38 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: More Elegant Indexing Solution
Hi,
Just curious: Does this also work when the emphasis page is
the first of the two? Will both of the two page
07, 2007 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: More Elegant Indexing Solution
I've already responded to Kevin, and we have a solution that works.
When inserting an index marker for Kevin's "tutorial" passages, you need to
append the marker text with . This would be the only difference
between the regul
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To: "Brian Weis" ;
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: More Elegant Indexing Solution
Of course! Why didn't I remember that?
To simplify things a little further, create the following character tags:
I -- Italic (Angle = Italic, everything el
It looks like this question has already been answered. This Index Mark only
affects the specific occurence of its page number. Order in the document
does not matter.
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On 5/8/07, Reng, Winfried Dr. wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Just curious: Does this also work when the emphasis page
From: Kevin Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: May 5, 2007 2:03 PM
Subject: More Elegant Indexing Solution
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
Hi everyone,
I have a series of user guides where the first few chapters typically
include a tutorial, and the rest of the guide
ot).
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Brian
From: Kevin Hunter < kev...@excelsystems.com>
Date: May 5, 2007 2:03 PM
Subject: More Elegant Indexing Solution
To: " framers at lists.frameusers.com"
Hi everyone,
I have a series of user guides where the first few chapters typicall
Hi everyone,
I have a series of user guides where the first few chapters typically include a
tutorial, and the rest of the guide includes reference information (like for
each option on each screen, that type of thing). So the first section and the
last part may have overlapping topics, where
Hi everyone,
I have a series of user guides where the first few chapters typically include a
tutorial, and the rest of the guide includes reference information (like for
each option on each screen, that type of thing). So the first section and the
last part may have overlapping topics, where
useful. Professional indexers have a strong antipathy to them.
Say you were indexing lengthy historical documents of one period, then a
concordance of all proper names would then be most useful. Genealogists have
often approached me about my published work, saying you mentioned my
ancestor
At 10:10 +0200 13/1/07, Rob Shell wrote:
I look forward to the time when indexing can be automated to the point where
an 8 point font could say, indicate mention only; italics could indicate,
ref in footnote, bold main reference, etc.. I do realise this is a long way
away.
Rob, I don't know
useful. Professional indexers have a strong antipathy to them.
Say you were indexing lengthy historical documents of one period, then a
concordance of all proper names would then be most useful. Genealogists have
often approached me about my published work, saying "you mentioned my
anc
At 10:10 +0200 13/1/07, Rob Shell wrote:
>I look forward to the time when indexing can be automated to the point where
>an 8 point font could say, indicate "mention only"; italics could indicate,
>"ref in footnote", bold main reference, etc.. I do realise this
Hi all,
I'm at the indexing stage of a 400 page book for a product I hadn't worked with
for about 3 years (so no memory of what I indexed before). The manual has also
been totally restructured, and many features superseded by different ones. Now
I'm looking at building the index, and the 'old
Be sure to look at IXGen by Frank Stearns. http://www.fsatools.com/ I
believe he's still doing eval versions. Solid design, bulletproof, and
as you point out, does all kinds of nice tricks.
Probably cuts indexing time in half, without sacrificing quality.
In addition to indexing, IXGen works
not be balanced.
IXgen should have a setting to prevent modification of your marker content,
but it doesn't.
For these reasons, I hesitate to recommend IXgen to my clients.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
Hi all,
I'm at the indexing stage of a 400 page book
@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Indexing recommendations
Hi all,
I'm at the indexing stage of a 400 page book for a product I hadn't
worked with for about 3 years (so no memory of what I indexed before).
The manual has also been totally restructured, and many features
superseded by different ones. Now I'm looking
Hi Kevin...
MarkerTools is not so much of an Indexing Solution as it is a tool for
making it easier to work with markers.One of the most useful features is
the updated marker dialog that lets you select multiple markers (or all
markers in a file), and browse through them without needing
Kevin,
You wrote:
... The minimum I'd like is to see index entries inline. Anything extra is
gravy, but I'm not convinced I do need much extra, so if I can see and
work with entries inline (a View option?) for cheap/free, I'd start
there.
I recommend Marker Madness from Zenserve,
the contents of markers.
Making this optional would not break any indexing features, but would
restore its usefulness for non-index use. Instead of looking at this as an
accommodation for .001% of your users, look at it as way of increasing
market share. Perhaps more important, it would prevent
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, Guy K. Haas wrote:
Thanks for the elaboration, Frank.
Have you considered making a configuration option for IXgen that would enable
the user of such third-party tools to turn off the [ balancing?
Yes -- that is indeed the conceptual plan. Problem is, within IXgen there
Hi all,
I'm at the indexing stage of a 400 page book for a product I hadn't worked with
for about 3 years (so no memory of what I indexed before). The manual has also
been totally restructured, and many features superseded by different ones. Now
I'm looking at building the index, and the 'old
, October 04, 2006 9:10 AM
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Indexing recommendations
Hi all,
I'm at the indexing stage of a 400 page book for a product I hadn't worked
with for about 3 years (so no memory of what I indexed before). The manual
has also been totally restructured
Be sure to look at IXGen by Frank Stearns. http://www.fsatools.com/ I
believe he's still doing eval versions. Solid design, bulletproof, and
as you point out, does all kinds of nice tricks.
Probably cuts indexing time in half, without sacrificing quality.
In addition to indexing, IXGen works
not be balanced.
IXgen should have a setting to prevent modification of your marker content,
but it doesn't.
For these reasons, I hesitate to recommend IXgen to my clients.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
Hi all,
I'm at the indexing stage of a 400 page book
at lists.frameusers.co
m] On Behalf Of Kevin Hunter
Sent: 04 October 2006 16:10
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Indexing recommendations
Hi all,
I'm at the indexing stage of a 400 page book for a product I hadn't
worked with for about 3 years (so no memory of what I indexed before).
The manual
Hi Kevin...
MarkerTools is not so much of an "Indexing Solution" as it is a tool for
making it easier to work with markers.One of the most useful features is
the updated marker dialog that lets you select multiple markers (or all
markers in a file), and browse through them witho
Kevin,
You wrote:
>... The minimum I'd like is to see index entries inline. Anything extra is
>gravy, but I'm not convinced I do need much extra, so if I can see and
>work with entries inline (a View option?) for cheap/free, I'd start
>there.
I recommend Marker Madness from Zenserve,
Regards,
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm at the indexing stage of a 400 page book for a product I hadn't
> worked with for about 3 years (so no memory of what I indexed before).
> The manual has also been totally restructured, and many feat
index.)
We are looking at ways to accommodate TimeSavers, but we are unwilling to
risk breaking indexing features that are very helpful to 99.999% of our
users.
> For these reasons, I hesitate to recommend IXgen to my clients.
Admitting our bias, we do recommend IXgen for these reasons:
(a) fea
the contents of markers.
Making this optional would not break any indexing features, but would
restore its usefulness for non-index use. Instead of looking at this as an
accommodation for .001% of your users, look at it as way of increasing
market share. Perhaps more important, it would prevent
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, Guy K. Haas wrote:
> Thanks for the elaboration, Frank.
> Have you considered making a configuration option for IXgen that would enable
> the user of such third-party tools to turn off the "[" balancing?
Yes -- that is indeed the conceptual plan. Problem is, within IXgen
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From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:52 AM
To: Patrick Nolan
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books?
Yes and no. Each book file is just a container for the chapters; it
doesn't actually change them
@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books?
Yes and no. Each book file is just a container for the chapters; it
doesn't actually change them. ;- )
You want to be sure to mimic the chapter-page numbering style of the
source book in the meta-book. Chapter 1 in Admin can still carry the
label
Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:52 AM
To: Patrick Nolan
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books?
Yes and no. Each book file is just a container for the chapters; it
doesn't actually change them
Rather than post two responses, I'll just toss a couple of thoughts in
regarding the two index-related questions asked on the list.
First, for the phantom index entries...
I've seen this sort of thing happen when Index marker content is
malformed. One example occurs when additional sorting (the
Frame Group,
I'm using Frame 7.0.1 on Windows XP Pro.
We have the problem with the usability of our documentation in that we
have multiple books in our library, but our users (internal and
external) have been asking for a way to find information across all
books.
In other words, they are
I think it's in the manual somewhere, but all you need to do is create
a meta-book that contains all the indexable chapters from your doc set
member books. Nesting books isn't supported. Only extra step is when
you generate the index, you'll probably need to include a prefix to ID
the book before
, August 01, 2006 11:33 AM
To: Patrick Nolan
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books?
I think it's in the manual somewhere, but all you need to do is create a
meta-book that contains all the indexable chapters from your doc set
member books. Nesting books isn't supported
If you want a little help with building the uber-book .. you can use our
ComboBook plugin (it's free) ..
http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/combobook.php
Cheers!
...scott
Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892
Steve Rickaby wrote:
At 10:52 -0700 1/8/06,
Frame Group,
I'm using Frame 7.0.1 on Windows XP Pro.
We have the problem with the usability of our documentation in that we
have multiple books in our library, but our users (internal and
external) have been asking for a way to find information across all
books.
In other words, they are
I think it's in the manual somewhere, but all you need to do is create
a meta-book that contains all the indexable chapters from your doc set
member books. Nesting books isn't supported. Only extra step is when
you generate the index, you'll probably need to include a prefix to ID
the book before
: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:33 AM
To: Patrick Nolan
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books?
I think it's in the manual somewhere, but all you need to do is create a
meta-book that contains all the indexable chapters from your doc set
member books. Nesting books isn't
to:art.campbell at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:33 AM
> To: Patrick Nolan
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books?
>
> I think it's in the manual somewhere, but all you need to do is create a
> meta-book that contains all the ind
At 10:52 -0700 1/8/06, Patrick Nolan wrote:
>Has anyone ever done this? Would I make multiple books inside one big
>book and generate an index? We're talking a few thousand pages here.
I can second what Art's posted: I've done this too, and it works. Be careful
not the change the pagination of
If you want a little help with building the uber-book .. you can use our
ComboBook plugin (it's free) ..
http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/combobook.php
Cheers!
...scott
Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892
Steve Rickaby wrote:
> At 10:52 -0700 1/8/06,
Adding to Jeremy's reply:
The other alternative to IXGEN is Index Tools Pro, from
Steve Kubis at Silicon Prarie:
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/
Steve is inexpensive, has great tech support, and the
professional indexer I employ on call loves his product.
But it doesn't do what IndefRef
Adding to Jeremy's reply:
>The other alternative to IXGEN is Index Tools Pro, from
>Steve Kubis at Silicon Prarie:
> http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/
>Steve is inexpensive, has great tech support, and the
>professional indexer I employ on call loves his product.
>But it doesn't do what
At 12:18 +0200 30/4/06, Patricia Carmel wrote:
How do I add a See also to a generated index? I could add it
manually but I'd prefer to automate as much as possible. Is it possible?
Perfectly possible, Patricia...
$nopageThing:See EmphasisOtherThingDefault Para Font[Thing:zzz]
The
Adding to Steve Rickaby's reply:
* I suggest using / instead of Default Para Font
* Additional building blocks/issues are mentioned in
http://www.microtype.com/resources/BBindexmarker.pdf (FrameMaker Building
Blocks series)
* If you produce an interactive PDF, visit
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:55:35 -0700, Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
* If you produce an interactive PDF, visit
http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/IndexRef/indexref.htm
for information about a plug-in that helps fix the links
created by See Also references.
I'll second Shlomo's
Hi Everyone,
How do I add a See also to a generated index? I could add it
manually but I'd prefer to automate as much as possible. Is it possible?
Regards,
Patricia
Patricia Carmel | Technical Communications Manager | Unipier Ltd |
Mobile:
At 12:18 +0200 30/4/06, Patricia Carmel wrote:
>How do I add a See also to a generated index? I could add it
>manually but I'd prefer to automate as much as possible. Is it possible?
Perfectly possible, Patricia...
<$nopage>Thing:See OtherThing[Thing:zzz]
The [Thing:zzz], er..., thing
Adding to Steve Rickaby's reply:
* I suggest using instead of
* Additional building blocks/issues are mentioned in
http://www.microtype.com/resources/BBindexmarker.pdf (FrameMaker Building
Blocks series)
* If you produce an interactive PDF, visit
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:55:35 -0700, Shlomo Perets
wrote:
>* If you produce an interactive PDF, visit
>http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/IndexRef/indexref.htm
>for information about a plug-in that helps fix the links
>created by See Also references.
I'll second Shlomo's recommendation of
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