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On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted web At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote: GHTo build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: GHThere also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action. GH E.g. If your

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote: GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: GH>>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action. GH>> E.g. "If

Recall: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

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OT: Syntax for if/then statement

On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted web> At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote: GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: GH>>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action. GH>> E.g.

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

Grant Hogarth wrote: > On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted > web> At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, > wrote: > GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: ... > Realizing just how long it has been since he has had to

Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

that's where the if/then statement syntax was developed, but. . . . -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Syntax for if/then statement

Our new editor wants to add the word and to such statements - if blah, blah, AND then blah, blah. But that doesn't even make sense grammatically! The closest thing I can find is in the Microsoft Manual of Style for Technical Publications, it's the if/when/whether thing. I know that doesn't

Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

At 11:22 -0600 29/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our new editor wants to add the word and to such statements - if blah, blah, AND then blah, blah. Both I and the other writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no and. Boy are you going to have fun with your new

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] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:22 AM To: framers@frameusers.com Subject: OT: Syntax for if/then statement All, I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I

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Donald, Christine, Jeremy, et. al. LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as some of you were in your emails (the responses were hysterical!), but I can summarize the responses (in a politically correct format, mind you!) and go from there. Thanks for all of

Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

At 10:22 AM 6/29/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our new editor wants to add the word and to such statements - if blah, blah, AND then blah, blah. Both I and the other writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no and. Tammy, I think your editor is overreacting

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readers could probably not care less. FWIW, Chuck Beck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:22 PM To: framers@frameusers.com Subject: OT: Syntax for if/then statement All, I am hoping the fellow

RE: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

-Original Message- Subject: Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our new editor wants to add the word and to such statements - if blah, blah, AND then blah, blah. Both I and the other writer disagree with the editor on this one

Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

Steve Rickaby wrote on 06/29/2006 01:47:56 PM: If/then and If/then/else or If/then/eiseif/else have been the constructs in any programming language that I can remember working in. While I won't argue with the underlying point Steve's logic with respect to the addition of an AND clause to

Re: Syntax for if/then statement

For example: If the new editor prevails, and then the boss buys into it, then you have no choice but to type up your resume. Brilliant example! But let's end on a happy note... Else hire a new editor. ;-) -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley

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-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Beck, Charles Hi Tammy, Bad news: At least one major style guide and my own experience are on your new editor's side on this one. In fact, the _Microsoft Manual of Style for Technical Publications,

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Bad news: At least one major style guide and my own experience are on your new editor's side on this one. In fact, the _Microsoft Manual of Style for Technical Publications, Third Edition_ takes it even further: That style guide states that you should avoid the if...then construction altogether

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, then do this, or If such-and-such is true, do this. Chuck -Original Message- From: Bill Swallow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:09 PM To: Beck, Charles Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: Syntax for if/then statement Bad news: At least one

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However, in the case of a conditional construct, I stand by my statement and conviction that most readers could not care less whether we say, If such-and-such is true, then do this, or If such-and-such is true, do this. Right, then is assumed, just as you is assumed in your examples. :-) I'll

RE: Syntax for if/then statement

To: framers@frameusers.com Subject: OT: Syntax for if/then statement All, I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used the following syntax for a conditional/causal statement: If blah, blah

RE: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote: To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action. E.g. If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you [will/can/must/shall/may/ought

RE: Syntax for if/then statement

PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:22 AM To: framers@frameusers.com Subject: OT: Syntax for if/then statement All, I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information for this request. Another writer here

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All, I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used the following syntax for a conditional/causal statement: If <blah, blah>, then <blah, blah>. We have a new editor that jus

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - >if , AND then . Both I and the other >writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just >if/then - no "and."

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nd > it now. Googling only leads me to programming references - the thin thread > here would be since we are writing software documentation, if/then, would > make sense, since that's where the if/then statement syntax was > developed, but. . . . -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com

Syntax for if/then statement

> Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to > such statements - if , AND then . But that doesn't even make sense grammatically! The closest thing I can find is in the Microsoft Manual of Style for Technical Publications, it's the if/when/whether thing. I know that

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

At 11:22 -0600 29/6/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if blah>, AND then . Both I and the other writer disagree with the >editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no "and." Boy are you going

Syntax for if/then statement

" Jim -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+jlight=pillardata@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jlight=pillardata.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:22 AM To: framers at frameusers.com Subje

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

Donald, Christine, Jeremy, et. al. LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as some of you were in your emails (the responses were hysterical!), but I can summarize the responses (in a politically correct format, mind you!) and go from there. Thanks for all of

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

At 10:22 AM 6/29/2006, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such >statements - if , AND then . Both I and the other >writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then - >no "and." Tammy, I think your

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at jeppesen.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:22 PM To: framers at frameusers.com Subject: OT: Syntax for if/then statement All, I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used the following s

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But if you're asked for supporting facts, you'll print out all these e-mails and hand them to your "editor", right? ;-) On 6/29/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: > LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as > some of you were in your emails (the

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

Cheers, Chuck Beck -Original Message----- Subject: Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if ><blah, blah>, AND then <blah,

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

Steve Rickaby wrote on 06/29/2006 01:47:56 PM: > If/then and If/then/else or If/then/eiseif/else have been the > constructs in any programming language that I can remember working > in. While I won't argue with the underlying point Steve's logic with respect to the addition of an AND clause to

Syntax for if/then statement

> For example: "If the new editor prevails, and then the boss buys into > it, then you have no choice but to type up your resume." Brilliant example! But let's end on a happy note... Else hire a new editor. ;-) -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley

Syntax for if/then statement

> -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces+rshelton=opentext.com at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces+rshelton=opentext.com at lists.frameusers.com]On > Behalf Of Beck, Charles > > Hi Tammy, > > Bad news: At least one major style guide and my own experience are on > your

Syntax for if/then statement

> Bad news: At least one major style guide and my own experience are on > your new editor's side on this one. In fact, the _Microsoft Manual of > Style for Technical Publications, Third Edition_ takes it even further: > That style guide states that you should avoid the "if...then" > construction

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/LwtaDependant_Clauses_and_Phrases.htm Z Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: > All, > > I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information > for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used > the following syntax for a conditional/c

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true, then do this," or "If such-and-such is true, do this." Chuck -Original Message- From: Bill Swallow [mailto:techcommd...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:09 PM To: Beck, Charles Cc: Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com; framers at frameusers.com

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> However, in the case of a conditional construct, I stand by my statement > and conviction that most readers could not care less whether we say, "If > such-and-such is true, then do this," or "If such-and-such is true, do > this." Right, "then" is assumed, just as "you" is assumed in your

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I think there's two things going on here. But, the editor should be open to discussion because she's a member of the team. Anyway: 1) If X then Y is fine. The conditional clause can be introduced that way. However, where I think the editor is going is the need for coordinating conjunctions to

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n=esph.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:22 AM To: framers at frameusers.com Subject: OT: Syntax for if/then statement All, I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information for this request. Another w

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Beck, Charles wrote: > However, in the case of a conditional construct, I stand by my statement > and conviction that most readers could not care less whether we say, "If > such-and-such is true, then do this," or "If such-and-such is true, do > this." As always, consider your audience. Perhaps

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At 2:04 PM -0400 6/29/06, eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com wrote: >Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between: >- If A, and then B >and >- If A and B From the point of view of someone who is used to such structures in programming languages the first variant would

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action. E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you [will/can/must/shall/may/ought to/...] celebrate..." - If A, then B (explicit consequence,

Syntax for if/then statement

At 2:13 PM -0400 6/29/06, Beck, Charles wrote: >However, in the case of a conditional construct, I stand by my statement >and conviction that most readers could not care less whether we say, "If >such-and-such is true, then do this," or "If such-and-such is true, do >this." I agree. In the

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At 2:22 PM -0400 6/29/06, T.W. Smith wrote: >2) Click File, click New. That comma splice becomes, "Click File, then click >New." which is technically incorrect and ought be "Click File, and then click >New." But this isn't even the same construct. This is an imperative; a set of instructions:

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At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote: >To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: > >There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action. > E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you >

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Bill Briggs wrote on 06/29/2006 03:30:32 PM: > At 2:04 PM -0400 6/29/06, eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com wrote: > >Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between: > >- If A, and then B > >and > >- If A and B > From the point of view of someone who is used to such

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ecessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:22 AM To: framers at frame