Re: xorg upgrade and /etc/ttys regression

2009-01-29 Thread Oliver Fromme
Just to be clear ... Am I understanding things right that the new X server requires hald and dbus running? It won't work anymore without them? (That would be a good reason for me not to update.) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b.

Re: xorg upgrade and /etc/ttys regression

2009-01-29 Thread Olivier SMEDTS
2009/1/29 Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de: Just to be clear ... Am I understanding things right that the new X server requires hald and dbus running? It won't work anymore without them? It's not required, you can still build, install and run xorg-server WITHOUT_HAL=yes. But you need to

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
Alex Goncharov wrote: I hate to say this, but the new X (as exists in the current FreeBSD ports) sucks and gets in the way of work big time. There are definitely issues with xorg-7.4 at the moment. The root issue seems to be that USB mice simply don't work for me, and running Xorg

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +) * | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't | understand. ums currently doesn't have driver instrumentation in that path. | | I pulled a

Re: xorg upgrade and /etc/ttys regression

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 10:55 +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: Just to be clear ... Am I understanding things right that the new X server requires hald and dbus running? It won't work anymore without them? (That would be a good reason for me not to update.) It will work without it. you need to

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 07:46 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +) * | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't | understand. ums currently doesn't

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:40:11 -0500) * | I've had patches available for probably a couple of months now posted to | freebsd-...@. For the few people who tested it, I had no real issues | reported. We were stalled for a long time, While X kept moving, so the | amount of change

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 08:58 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: ,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:40:11 -0500) * | I've had patches available for probably a couple of months now posted to | freebsd-...@. For the few people who tested it, I had no real issues | reported. We were stalled for a

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Stephen Clark
Alex Goncharov wrote: ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +) * | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't | understand. ums currently doesn't have driver instrumentation in that

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:12:47 -0500) * | Problem is, it isn't just the Xserver... All of the pieces are | intertwined and so in many cases to update Xserver you also need to | update some/several libraries as well as all of your drivers. Xorg is | about 60 or 70 ports now. That

Re: cvs commit: ports/games/freecell-solver Makefile

2009-01-29 Thread QAT
Hi, Excerpt from http://QAT.TecNik93.com/logs/7-STABLE-FPT-NPD/freecell-solver-2.14.0.log : building freecell-solver-2.14.0 in directory /usr/local/tinderbox/7-STABLE-FPT-NPD maintained by: po...@freebsd.org building for: 7.1-STABLE amd64 Makefile ident: $FreeBSD:

amavisd errors after perl upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread sho
I recently upgraded perl to 5.8.9, with portupgrade -rR, run perl-after-upgrade. Still run into some problems after that. Manually deinstalled and reinstalled many SA and Amavisd-new dependenices, but still get these errors in Amavisd-new with Mail:SPF. I completely unistalled and reinstalled

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 09:25 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: ,--- You/Robert (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:12:47 -0500) * | Problem is, it isn't just the Xserver... All of the pieces are | intertwined and so in many cases to update Xserver you also need to | update some/several libraries as well as all

Re: Call for testers: MythTV 0.21 port upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:26:41 +0100 usleepl...@gmail.com wrote: I have compiled and installed trunk in the last weeks, and there was hardly anything FreeBSD specific that needed to be adjusted. It Very interesting. Hopefully, that will help with porting 0.22 (whenever that will be released).

Re: xorg upgrade and /etc/ttys regression

2009-01-29 Thread Kent Stewart
On Thursday 29 January 2009 05:23:01 am Robert Noland wrote: On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 10:55 +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: Just to be clear ... Am I understanding things right that the new X server requires hald and dbus running? It won't work anymore without them? (That would be a good

Re: xorg upgrade and /etc/ttys regression

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 11:06 -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: On Thursday 29 January 2009 05:23:01 am Robert Noland wrote: On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 10:55 +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: Just to be clear ... Am I understanding things right that the new X server requires hald and dbus running? It won't

boinc-client stop working with WCG

2009-01-29 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
Dear Pav, could you please take a look at this thread? http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=24324lastpage=yes Thank you. -- Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] [ FreeBSD committer:

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Stephen Clark
Dan Allen wrote: Thanks to Robert for pointing out a few things to me. I have run portupgrade -rf libxcb I normally run portupgrade -WrRpPa This is what I ran and it totally hosed my system. I had to revert back to an earlier version to be able to bring X back up. This should have

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Robert Noland
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 16:45 -0500, Stephen Clark wrote: Dan Allen wrote: Thanks to Robert for pointing out a few things to me. I have run portupgrade -rf libxcb I normally run portupgrade -WrRpPa This is what I ran and it totally hosed my system. I had to revert back to an

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-01-29 Thread Dan Allen
Thanks to Robert for pointing out a few things to me. I have run portupgrade -rf libxcb and it rebuilt quite a few pieces that had not been rebuilt in the standard portupgrade that gave me X.org 7.4 in the first place. After rebuilding firefox and a bunch of smaller libraries, my

The “Military, Industrial Complex” is no more -- The Hidden Massive Racial Discrimination in America against Whites

2009-01-29 Thread Lawrence Auster
The “Military, Industrial Complex” is no more. Today it is the Political, Financial and Media — Zionist Complex! 1/28/2009 An short essay by Dr. David Duke The “Military-Industrial complex” really has no relevance to the real holders of global power today. America is the most powerful

Re: Run-time auto-detection is harmful for packages

2009-01-29 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:40:27 -0600, Boris Samorodov b...@ipt.ru wrote: Hello List, I'd like to be better safe than sorry, but... You know, things may happen. I prefer to use packages for installing/updating since there are at least five personal machines which I should take care of (at work,

FreeBSD Port: sks-1.1.0

2009-01-29 Thread Joseph Oreste Bruni
Greetings, I see that you are the maintainer of the SKS package within the FreeBSD ports tree. I was wondering if you could add one of the patches that is present in the SKS revision control repository but has not yet made its way into a release. The patch in question can be found here:

Re: Run-time auto-detection is harmful for packages

2009-01-29 Thread Boris Samorodov
Jeremy Messenger me...@cox.net writes: You already can do that. WITHOUT_GNOME=yes or WITHOUT_GNOME=esound. Thanks for the tip! 2. Create slave ports to build (non-default so far) packages for those who want to use packages and were unfortunate to install packages used for

Re: Run-time auto-detection is harmful for packages

2009-01-29 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:40:08 -0600, Boris Samorodov b...@ipt.ru wrote: Jeremy Messenger me...@cox.net writes: You already can do that. WITHOUT_GNOME=yes or WITHOUT_GNOME=esound. Thanks for the tip! 2. Create slave ports to build (non-default so far) packages for those who want to use

Re: Run-time auto-detection is harmful for packages

2009-01-29 Thread Boris Samorodov
Jeremy Messenger me...@cox.net writes: On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:40:08 -0600, Boris Samorodov b...@ipt.ru wrote: Jeremy Messenger me...@cox.net writes: 2. Create slave ports to build (non-default so far) packages for those who want to use packages and were unfortunate to install packages

Re: FreeBSD Port: sks-1.1.0

2009-01-29 Thread Johan van Selst
Hi Joe, Joseph Oreste Bruni wrote: I see that you are the maintainer of the SKS package within the FreeBSD ports tree. I was wondering if you could add one of the patches that is present in the SKS revision control repository but has not yet made its way into a release. Thanks. I'll add