Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Yuri
On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote: (maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that makes this all as easy github, but I somehow doubt that.) github itself is closed source, but 95% of its functionality is based on git which is open. One only needs to invoke 3-4

Fwd: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote: On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote: (maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that makes this all as easy github, but I somehow doubt that.) github itself is closed source, but 95% of its functionality

Re: Is it Ok to write files into ${STAGEDIR}/${PREFIX} on build stage?

2014-01-25 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Boris. You wrote 24 января 2014 г., 20:33:45: I'm writing port, which has complex, multi-stage build. In the middle ofg build some files should be installed into some directory with exactly same structure, as final result -- some ${TEMPROOT}/${PREFIX}. I could create special place

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/24/14, 11:45 PM, John Marino wrote: On 1/25/2014 05:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs on an ongoing basis, my guess is that would be very welcome and we'd figure out a way

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/25/14, 12:11 AM, Yuri wrote: On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote: (maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that makes this all as easy github, but I somehow doubt that.) github itself is closed source, but 95% of its functionality is based on git which is

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread John Marino
On 1/25/2014 09:55, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/24/14, 11:45 PM, John Marino wrote: On 1/25/2014 05:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs on an ongoing basis, my guess is that

Re: Is it Ok to write files into ${STAGEDIR}/${PREFIX} on build stage?

2014-01-25 Thread Boris Samorodov
25.01.2014 12:33, Lev Serebryakov пишет: Hello, Boris. You wrote 24 января 2014 г., 20:33:45: I'm writing port, which has complex, multi-stage build. In the middle ofg build some files should be installed into some directory with exactly same structure, as final result -- some

Re: Is it Ok to write files into ${STAGEDIR}/${PREFIX} on build stage?

2014-01-25 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Boris. You wrote 25 января 2014 г., 14:06:12: How this contradict with putting file to ${STAGEDIR}${PREFIX} before stage phase (I don't like word stage instead of phase here due to obvious reason)? BS To my mind build is, well, for building and install... you know... Yep, but here I

FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date

2014-01-25 Thread portscout
Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate, submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated,

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Big Lebowski
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:47 AM, John Marino freebsd.cont...@marino.stwrote: On 1/25/2014 01:36, Big Lebowski wrote: I was hoping to get some discussion revealing how the work is organized around ports PR, perhaps some ideas on improving them and I hoped that people who can make decisions

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Big Lebowski
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.orgwrote: On 1/24/14, 11:45 PM, John Marino wrote: On 1/25/2014 05:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs on an

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 25/01/2014 10:35, Big Lebowski wrote: Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs on an ongoing basis, my guess is that would be very welcome and we'd figure out a way to set that up. It would definitely

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Bernhard Fröhlich
Am 25.01.2014 02:12 schrieb Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com: I think you've got me wrong - I am following freebsd-virtualization list very closely, and the matter I've touched here is not my doubt on which technology I should use, but rather a complaint on the state of jails

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Big Lebowski
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Bernhard Fröhlich de...@bluelife.atwrote: Am 25.01.2014 02:12 schrieb Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com: I think you've got me wrong - I am following freebsd-virtualization list very closely, and the matter I've touched here is not my doubt on

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Bernhard Fröhlich
Am 25.01.2014 13:35 schrieb Big Lebowski spankthes...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Bernhard Fröhlich de...@bluelife.at wrote: Am 25.01.2014 02:12 schrieb Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com: I think you've got me wrong - I am following freebsd-virtualization

Re: newsbeuter/stfl error

2014-01-25 Thread Zsolt Udvari
Good news! Can I help something? Zsolt 2014-01-24 Tijl Coosemans t...@freebsd.org: On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:50:38 +0100 Zsolt Udvari wrote: Hi list! I'm using www/newsbeuter to read my rss-feeds but after upgrade 9.2 to 10.0 it doesn't start. Starting newsbeuter 2.8... Loading

[QAT] r341049: 4x leftovers

2014-01-25 Thread Ports-QAT
- add license - Support stage PR: ports/186069 Submitted by: Tatsuki Makino - Build ID: 20140125163200-34244 Job owner: m...@freebsd.org Buildtime: 6 minutes Enddate: Sat,

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/25/14, 1:14 AM, John Marino wrote: On 1/25/2014 09:55, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/24/14, 11:45 PM, John Marino wrote: On 1/25/2014 05:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread John Marino
On 1/25/2014 18:11, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Still missing the point. Git can sit on top of svn. Other than converting SVN to Git, I don't know anything about that. It would never be done in an official capacity. Git is not an official tool of FreeBSD. From what I'm reading you may know

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
By the way, this wasn't about switching to git (although that would be nice), this is about leveraging existing tools. One can very easily use git-svn bridge to push git changes into subversion. Or you can try to re-implement a patch queue based system yourself using a bunch of duct tape and

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/25/14, 9:28 AM, John Marino wrote: On 1/25/2014 18:11, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Still missing the point. Git can sit on top of svn. Other than converting SVN to Git, I don't know anything about that. It would never be done in an official capacity. Git is not an official tool of

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:16:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/24/14, 4:47 PM, John Marino wrote: On 1/25/2014 01:36, Big Lebowski wrote: I was hoping to get some discussion revealing how the work is organized around ports PR, perhaps some ideas on improving them and I hoped that

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:57:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14, 12:11 AM, Yuri wrote: On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote: (maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that makes this all as easy github, but I somehow doubt that.) github itself

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
Making proper merge from github pull request it not that easy, you will need to fetch pull request as custom branches and cherry-pick them. That is really not convenient. devel/tailor was designed specifically for this case (the actual case it does is aegis --- svn) but same basic idea --

Fwd: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
-- Forwarded message -- From: Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:34 PM Subject: Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays? To: John Marino dragonfly...@marino.st You are solving the wrong problem. And nobody is reinventing

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 09:11:24AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14, 1:14 AM, John Marino wrote: On 1/25/2014 09:55, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/24/14, 11:45 PM, John Marino wrote: On 1/25/2014 05:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 09:36:00AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14, 9:28 AM, John Marino wrote: On 1/25/2014 18:11, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Still missing the point. Git can sit on top of svn. Other than converting SVN to Git, I don't know anything about that. It would

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:53:41PM -0500, Aryeh Friedman wrote: Making proper merge from github pull request it not that easy, you will need to fetch pull request as custom branches and cherry-pick them. That is really not convenient. devel/tailor was designed specifically for this

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/25/14 9:48 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:16:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: To me it would speak of tooling as opposed to anything. Does the ports system have a 1 or 2 click interface for merging PRs like for instance github? Could ports take PRs in the

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/25/14 9:51 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:57:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14, 12:11 AM, Yuri wrote: On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote: (maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that makes this all as easy github, but

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/25/14 10:04 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 09:36:00AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14, 9:28 AM, John Marino wrote: On 1/25/2014 18:11, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Still missing the point. Git can sit on top of svn. Other than converting SVN to Git, I don't

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:25:07AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 9:48 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:16:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: To me it would speak of tooling as opposed to anything. Does the ports system have a 1 or 2 click interface

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:27:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 10:04 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 09:36:00AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14, 9:28 AM, John Marino wrote: On 1/25/2014 18:11, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Still missing the point.

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/25/14 10:32 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:27:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 10:04 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 09:36:00AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14, 9:28 AM, John Marino wrote: On 1/25/2014 18:11, Alfred

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/25/14 10:30 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:25:07AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 9:48 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:16:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: To me it would speak of tooling as opposed to anything. Does the

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:41:22AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 10:32 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:27:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 10:04 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 09:36:00AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:41:51AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 10:30 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:25:07AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 9:48 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:16:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/25/14 10:59 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:41:22AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 10:32 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:27:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 10:04 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25,

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:06:33AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 10:59 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:41:22AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 10:32 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:27:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:26:30AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 9:51 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:57:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14, 12:11 AM, Yuri wrote: On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred Perlstein wrote: (maybe there is some great ports

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/25/14 11:52 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:26:30AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 9:51 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:57:21AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14, 12:11 AM, Yuri wrote: On 01/24/2014 20:16, Alfred

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Montgomery-Smith, Stephen
On 01/24/2014 05:30 PM, Big Lebowski wrote: Hi everyone, I wanted to ask about the growing time of reaction to ports PR's - what is the problem? It seems to me, as a ports contributor, that this time is only growing, not shrinking, and there's no formal/automated procedures that would help

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Ruslan Makhmatkhanov
Alfred Perlstein wrote on 25.01.2014 22:41: Are any of these tools available on the other side? Ie, for port submitters? yes porttools for example, or some scripts inside Tools/scripts regards, Bapt Is there a primer on using these tools? /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/getpatch category/PR --

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Yuri
On 01/25/2014 05:43, Bernhard Fröhlich wrote: With the scripts it should be possible to fetch the patch of a PR, apply and commit it to your redports repository and do additional changes until you are okay with it. What is still missing is a script that helps committing the changes to the

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote: On 01/25/2014 05:43, Bernhard Fröhlich wrote: With the scripts it should be possible to fetch the patch of a PR, apply and commit it to your redports repository and do additional changes until you are okay with it. What is still

[QAT] r341131: 4x leftovers

2014-01-25 Thread Ports-QAT
Remove non existing PORTDOCS Support stage - Build ID: 20140125224200-33223 Job owner: b...@freebsd.org Buildtime: 50 minutes Enddate: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:32:16 GMT Revision:

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Yuri
On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote: The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really want to do (get new ports into the system)... to that end automating everything that can be automated is sure help free up comitter time so they can look at what is interesting Yes.

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote: On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote: The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really want to do (get new ports into the system)... to that end automating everything that can be automated is sure help free

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Yuri
On 01/25/2014 15:48, Aryeh Friedman wrote: Git hup (or*ANY* remote service for that matter) is a no go IMO But both Debian and Fedora do this with automated remote testing, and they don't seem to complain. How is our ports different in this respect? Yuri

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/25/14 4:05 PM, Yuri wrote: On 01/25/2014 15:48, Aryeh Friedman wrote: Git hup (or*ANY* remote service for that matter) is a no go IMO But both Debian and Fedora do this with automated remote testing, and they don't seem to complain. How is our ports different in this respect? I

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/25/14 3:41 PM, Yuri wrote: On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote: The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really want to do (get new ports into the system)... to that end automating everything that can be automated is sure help free up comitter time so they can

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 1/25/14 3:48 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote: On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote: The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really want to do (get new ports into the system)... to that end automating

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Alfred Perlstein alf...@freebsd.orgwrote: On 1/25/14 3:48 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote: On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote: The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really

make fetchindex

2014-01-25 Thread clutton
I'm curious, is INDEX bounded to svn revision somehow now? Or is it builds every hour like in old days? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

php55-ext-5.5.8 build fails

2014-01-25 Thread nano
All PHP 5.5.8 extension ports are failing with: #!-!# === Staging for php55-bz2-5.5.8 === Generating temporary packing list install: /var/ports/basejail/usr/ports/archivers/php55-bz2/work/php-5.5.8/ext/bz2/modules/bz2.so: No such file or

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
I never said our selves it is outsourced to the developer/maintainer with 100% automated stuff... once I am doing with the next small version of petitecloud I will post the 6 line script we use to test the port (including cranking up a few vm's)... have fun doing that anywhere else Got bored

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Jim Ohlstein
Hello, On 1/25/14, 9:04 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 1/25/14 3:48 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote: On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote: The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really want to do (get new

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
I like the KISS approach myself. This can be boiled down to those two issues, one of which is a symptom of the other. Arguing and debating over a long term solution to the OP's question does nothing to solve the problem in the short to intermediate term. There are 1680 current ports related

Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?

2014-01-25 Thread Jim Ohlstein
Hello, On 1/25/14, 10:33 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: I like the KISS approach myself. This can be boiled down to those two issues, one of which is a symptom of the other. Arguing and debating over a long term solution to the OP's question does nothing to solve the problem in the