Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-30 Thread George Mitchell
On 2020-04-30 21:31, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > [...] > PS I've not the foggiest what Tauthon is , so searched > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Tauthon=Go=1 > The page "Tauthon" does not exist. > cd /usr/ports ; cd */*tauthon* # */*tauthon*: No match.

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-30 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 29.04.20 um 17:00 schrieb Julian H. Stacey: > > Greg Veldman wrote ports@: > >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 01:02:14PM -0700, Chris wrote: > >>> It also wouldn't be that difficult to simply modify mailman(2) > >>> to adopt the py3.x language changes. > >> > >> To simply

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-30 Thread Greg Veldman
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 03:59:16AM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > There are many thousand links to the freebsd pipermail archives, > and invalidating all those links sounds like a serious loss of institutional > memory. > > Is there a way to cope with that ? Some sort of > lookup 'old link' -> 'new

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-30 Thread Greg Veldman
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 07:56:08PM -0700, Chris wrote: > I really like Perl a lot more for all this string/byte handling stuff. > Maybe Majordomo? B-} The latest release was two decades ago, not sure I'd go that route. ;-) Sympa would probably be a better choice. -- Greg Veldman

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-30 Thread @lbutlr
>> AIUI you can move your entire archive to the new system. > > There are many thousand links to the freebsd pipermail archives, > and invalidating all those links sounds like a serious loss of institutional > memory. As I said in the pat of my message you snipped, you do not have to remove

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-29 Thread Chris
On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 02:03:20 +0200 Matthias Andree matthias.and...@gmx.de said Am 28.04.20 um 22:02 schrieb Chris: > In sentiment I am inline with your thoughts as well. > Would it be a worthy project to create a mailman(2)-lts port? > I'd be fully up for helping, and or creating it myself. >

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-29 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > On 28 Apr 2020, at 14:00, Chris wrote: > > as at *least* it completely abandons the previous archive system. > > Pipermail was??? lacking. It looked 20 years old (because it was). > > > Making your previous archive, an archive of an archive. > > AIUI you can move your entire archive to

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-29 Thread @lbutlr
On 28 Apr 2020, at 14:00, Chris wrote: > as at *least* it completely abandons the previous archive system. Pipermail was… lacking. It looked 20 years old (because it was). > Making your previous archive, an archive of an archive. AIUI you can move your entire archive to the new system. You can

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-29 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 28.04.20 um 22:02 schrieb Chris: > In sentiment I am inline with your thoughts as well. > Would it be a worthy project to create a mailman(2)-lts port? > I'd be fully up for helping, and or creating it myself. > There's a port that's a shim for py2.x-->py3.x called 2to3, or something > like

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-29 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: > From: Greg Veldman > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:33:42 -0400 Greg Veldman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 05:00:01PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Even if it's possible to bend ports/mail/mailman to support Mailman3 > > Please do not do it; keep it clean for

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-29 Thread Greg Veldman
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 05:00:01PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Even if it's possible to bend ports/mail/mailman to support Mailman3 > Please do not do it; keep it clean for just Mailman2 > (Else it would cause big run time problems for user admins (inc. me)). > > Any who will want Mailman3

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-29 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Greg Veldman wrote ports@: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 01:02:14PM -0700, Chris wrote: > > It also wouldn't be that difficult to simply modify mailman(2) > > to adopt the py3.x language changes. > > To simply make it work, perhaps not. To make it work well and > be reliable... might be more

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-28 Thread Greg Veldman
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 01:02:14PM -0700, Chris wrote: > It also wouldn't be that difficult to simply modify mailman(2) > to adopt the py3.x language changes. To simply make it work, perhaps not. To make it work well and be reliable... might be more difficult than you think. A large chunk of

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-28 Thread Chris
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:33:41 +0200 Matthias Andree matthias.and...@gmx.de said [Dan, Kurt, this is a re-send of my message written 2020-04-24 with a different sender address.] Am 24.04.20 um 15:04 schrieb Kurt Jaeger: > Hi! > >> With mail/mailman being Python 2.7 (which is end-of-life), and

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-28 Thread Chris
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:43:49 +0200 Kurt Jaeger p...@freebsd.org said Hi! > I see the mailman lists themselves are now on Mailman 3: > > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-annou...@python.org/thread/HHQN7V6NY7G5CTOSC3WBU7VXW5KEBGVO/ Interesting! Looks like a very uncomfortable

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-28 Thread @lbutlr
On 28 Apr 2020, at 09:33, Matthias Andree wrote: > Leaving Python 3.x compatibility aside, But that is the main issue. Python 2.7 is dead. Well, fine, it’s not quite dead yet, but it is also not feeling any better. (I ran mailman lists for many years, but never made the move to mailman 3 and

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-28 Thread Matthias Andree
[Dan, Kurt, this is a re-send of my message written 2020-04-24 with a different sender address.] Am 24.04.20 um 15:04 schrieb Kurt Jaeger: > Hi! > >> With mail/mailman being Python 2.7 (which is end-of-life), and mailman 3 >> being Python 3 compatible: >> >> Do you know of any plans to port

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-28 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 28.04.20 um 16:34 schrieb Dan Langille: > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Dan Langille wrote: >>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> With mail/mailman being Python 2.7 (which is end-of-life), and mailman 3 being Python 3 compatible: Do you

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-28 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > I see the mailman lists themselves are now on Mailman 3: > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-annou...@python.org/thread/HHQN7V6NY7G5CTOSC3WBU7VXW5KEBGVO/ Interesting! Looks like a very uncomfortable design for uniq URLs 8-( -- p...@freebsd.org +49 171 3101372

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-28 Thread Dan Langille
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Dan Langille wrote: > > On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > >> With mail/mailman being Python 2.7 (which is end-of-life), and mailman 3 > >> being Python 3 compatible: > >> > >> Do you know of any plans to port Mailman 3? > > >

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-24 Thread Dan Langille
> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > > Hi! > >> With mail/mailman being Python 2.7 (which is end-of-life), and mailman 3 >> being Python 3 compatible: >> >> Do you know of any plans to port Mailman 3? > > There's already a PR about that: > >

Re: mail/mailman v3?

2020-04-24 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > With mail/mailman being Python 2.7 (which is end-of-life), and mailman 3 > being Python 3 compatible: > > Do you know of any plans to port Mailman 3? There's already a PR about that: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=225543 The patch itself is fine, but we need