Re: mx1.freebsd.org

2008-12-02 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi, My postfix mail servers shows to messages in the queue saying (host mx1.FreeBSD.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [86.58.167.132] (in reply to RCPT TO command)) But when i do a lookup or a reverse lookup, i find my hostname, also from

Re: open multiple xterms with script

2008-12-02 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:07:47 +0200, Aggelidis Nikos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi to all the list, i need some help... Is it possible to open four consoles as root(authenticate yourself once), in each one run a specific program and do this through a script? {bash or python). i want to open 4

FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Pieter Donche
If motherboad is Supermicro X7SBE XEON 3000 with 2 Quad core processors Intel Harpertown E 5405 2.0Ghz 12M cache 1333FSB and 4 x 4Gb memory, what distribution of FreeBSD 7.0 applies: i386 or ia64 ? Why are the ISO's so different in size between i386 and ia64 (i386: disc1,2,3: 534, 728, 368Gb;

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
ad0a (/), ad0b (swap), ad0d (/var) etc... correct or not (then what)? You're mixing terminology here. :-) The use entire disk will create a slice for FreeBSD covering the complete disk. A slice is what MICROS~1 calls primary partition. Now the conclusion: Let's say you create a slice on ad0,

Re: Introduction

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I don't know why, but it looks like I never crossed paths with FreeBSD. Only recently, I took a peek in the apparently well-written documentation. Now I have some spare time and also a spare machine (a Fujitsu Lifebook), and I thought I'd give FreeBSD a spin, just out of mere curiosity.

sshit runs out of semaphores

2008-12-02 Thread DA Forsyth
Hiya I recently started (trying) to use sshit to filter the many brute force sshd attacks. However, it has never worked on my box. FreeBSD 7.0 p1. This morning it would only give a message (without exiting) Could not create semaphore set: No space left on device at

Re: Problem configuring X: FreeBSD 6.4, Intel video card, Fujitsu lifebook

2008-12-02 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 12/2/08, Niki Kovacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just installed FreeBSD 6.4 on a Fujitsu lifebook. I'm quite new to FreeBSD (see previous post Introduction). Some time ago, I had bought (and partially read) Michael Urban's FreeBSD 6 Unleashed. I just worked through the initial

Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Ebbe Hjorth
2008/12/2 Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. So this would point to ia64 distribution? But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View tells for ia64: Currently

Re: sshit runs out of semaphores

2008-12-02 Thread Greg Larkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 DA Forsyth wrote: Hiya I recently started (trying) to use sshit to filter the many brute force sshd attacks. However, it has never worked on my box. FreeBSD 7.0 p1. This morning it would only give a message (without exiting) Could not

Re: sshit runs out of semaphores

2008-12-02 Thread Bill Moran
In response to DA Forsyth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hiya I recently started (trying) to use sshit to filter the many brute force sshd attacks. However, it has never worked on my box. FreeBSD 7.0 p1. This morning it would only give a message (without exiting) Could not create semaphore

Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port

2008-12-02 Thread Masoom Shaikh
can try `pkg_delete -a` On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Leslie Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? I'm considering a move to kde4 but I want a clean install, so I want to remove the kde3 meta-port first. Thanks /Leslie

Problem configuring X: FreeBSD 6.4, Intel video card, Fujitsu lifebook

2008-12-02 Thread Niki Kovacs
Hi, I just installed FreeBSD 6.4 on a Fujitsu lifebook. I'm quite new to FreeBSD (see previous post Introduction). Some time ago, I had bought (and partially read) Michael Urban's FreeBSD 6 Unleashed. I just worked through the initial chapters, and managed installing FreeBSD and configuring

Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Ebbe Hjorth
Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. 368 vs 372 is that the 64 bit is compiled for 64 bit, and uses a little more space. / Ebbe 2008/12/2 Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] If motherboad is Supermicro X7SBE XEON 3000 with 2 Quad core processors Intel Harpertown

Re: Why process memory starts so high up in virtual space with FreeBSD malloc?

2008-12-02 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:57:23 -0800, Yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: The FreeBSD malloc(3) implementation can use either mmap() or sbrk() to obtain memory from the system. It does not 'waste a high percentage of memory' but it simply maps only high addresses (with an

Re: Problem configuring X: FreeBSD 6.4, Intel video card, Fujitsu lifebook

2008-12-02 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 12:33:52 Niki Kovacs wrote: Hi, I just installed FreeBSD 6.4 on a Fujitsu lifebook. I'm quite new to FreeBSD (see previous post Introduction). Some time ago, I had bought (and partially read) Michael Urban's FreeBSD 6 Unleashed. I just worked through the initial

Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Pieter Donche
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: 2008/12/2 Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. I never googled it before, but 2 sec gave me

Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port

2008-12-02 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:38:02 +0100 Leslie Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? I'm considering a move to kde4 but I want a clean install, so I want to remove the kde3 meta-port first. Well, you might try navigating to the kde3 port /usr/ports/x11/kde3 and

Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
So use the amd64 ;) Is the amd64 distribution mature enough, as compared to the i386? yes Aren't there any problems to be expected to arrive, months after initial install and way in the production usage ?? no. the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that some

open multiple xterms with script

2008-12-02 Thread Aggelidis Nikos
hi to all the list, i need some help... Is it possible to open four consoles as root(authenticate yourself once), in each one run a specific program and do this through a script? {bash or python). i want to open 4 xterms in the four corners of the screen. In 3 xterms i want to run specific

Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Pieter Donche
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. what kind of drivers would be missing for the amd64 distribution ??? ___

stand-alone GTK2 wlan config tool?

2008-12-02 Thread Ghirai
Hello list, Are there any stand-alone, GTK2, wlan config apps out there (basic stuff, like viewing available networks, setting wpa key, connecting, etc.)? I'm using xfce, and the wlan plugin thingie can only show the signal strength, assuming i'm already connected. Thanks. -- Regards, Ghirai.

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
What about DragonFlyBSD's new HAMMER FS? I hear it has similar capabilities as ZFS without the overhead. Though, strangely, I haven't really heard anyone discuss it even though it was released some months ago. it's maybe pre-pre-prerelease. it's not finished yet.

Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
If motherboad is Supermicro X7SBE XEON 3000 with 2 Quad core processors Intel Harpertown E 5405 2.0Ghz 12M cache 1333FSB and 4 x 4Gb memory, what distribution of FreeBSD 7.0 applies: i386 or ia64 ? Why are the ISO's so different in size between i386 and ia64 (i386: disc1,2,3: 534, 728, 368Gb;

Introduction

2008-12-02 Thread Niki Kovacs
Hi, I'm an Austrian sysadmin living in Montpezat (South France), and a 100% GNU/Linux user since 2001. I've started with Slackware (7.1, I think) on a battered 486, hopped distros for some time, used Mandriva, Debian and then Slackware again for a few years. In the last two years or so,

RE: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Johan Hendriks
the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. what kind of drivers would be missing for the amd64 distribution ??? Nvidia!!! Regards, Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG -

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Ivan Voras
2008/12/2 Nathan Lay [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What about DragonFlyBSD's new HAMMER FS? I hear it has similar capabilities as ZFS without the overhead. Though, strangely, I haven't really heard anyone discuss it even though it was released some months ago. Well, that's because it doesn't :)

(no subject)

2008-12-02 Thread Pieter Donche
If one has a system with 7 500Gb SATA disks in a hardware RAID6 (Areca Raid Controller), then (according to mail J.Chadwick 7 Nov 2008) they will show up as da (following naming convention for scsi disks although they are not). RAID6 will allow about 2,5 Tb for the 'user' (roughly 1 Tb will be

Nvidia (Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution)

2008-12-02 Thread Ott Köstner
Johan Hendriks wrote: the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. what kind of drivers would be missing for the amd64 distribution ??? Nvidia!!! I am one ot these folks, using 32-bit FreeBSD

Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms...

2008-12-02 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 09:04:56 Beech Rintoul wrote: On Monday 01 December 2008 21:43:08 Javier Vasquez wrote: On 12/2/08, Javier Vasquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was reading chapter 4 of the handbook, as well as chapters 24 and 26... If I got it clear, I pretty much

FreeBSD cannot power down

2008-12-02 Thread Unga
Hi all After a kernel recompilation on i386 RELENG_7 (not the latest), I cannot power down the machine. kldstat shows acpi.ko is loaded. It used to switch off but now the shutdown -p now halts the system with following messages: The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot.

Nvidia (Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution)

2008-12-02 Thread Robert Huff
=?windows-1250?Q?Ott_K=F6stner?= writes: I am one ot these folks, using 32-bit FreeBSD on my desktop, just because of Nvidia drivers. Wanted to ask, maybe somebody here knows, is there any hope to expect 64 bit Nvidia drivers in some reasonable future? What is the problem with

Re: Nvidia (Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution)

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Nvidia drivers. Wanted to ask, maybe somebody here knows, is there any hope to expect 64 bit Nvidia drivers in some reasonable future? What is the problem with Nvidia? Why they do not provide 64 bit drivers? because there are not enough pressure from clients? (by not buying them)

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-02 Thread Pieter Donche
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Polytropon wrote: ad0 |---| the whole disk ad0s1 \--/ one slice ad0s1X \--/\---/\-/\-/\---/\/ partitions a b d e f g

Re: Problem with permissions and vi

2008-12-02 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 10:32:48 Adam Zaleski wrote: Hello, I have a problem setting up some permissions to file and editing this file with vi.. I have two different examples to show you what I mean... First one: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo some text some_file.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Pieter Donche
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. So this would point to ia64 distribution? But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are Itanium and Itanium2 There

RE: Nvidia (Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution)

2008-12-02 Thread Johan Hendriks
Nvidia drivers. Wanted to ask, maybe somebody here knows, is there any hope to expect 64 bit Nvidia drivers in some reasonable future? What is the problem with Nvidia? Why they do not provide 64 bit drivers? because there are not enough pressure from clients? (by not buying them) They

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-02 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:56:44 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If FreeBSD is to put on the system as only operating system (Fdisk: A = Use Entire disk), then will the BSD-partitions will show up as ad0a (/), ad0b (swap), ad0d (/var) etc... correct or not (then what)? You're

Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Valentin Bud
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Johan Hendriks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. what kind of drivers would be missing for the amd64 distribution ??? Nvidia!!! No Nvidia

Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port

2008-12-02 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 08:38:02 Leslie Jensen wrote: How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? I'm considering a move to kde4 but I want a clean install, so I want to remove the kde3 meta-port first. cd /usr/ports/x11/kde3 for dep in `make -V RUN_DEPENDS`; do origin=${dep##*:};

Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
My box is a web/mail/vpn/router/samba (yes i know there shouldn't be that many services on the box, but tell my boss that) and all the apps are working like a charm. his money his problem. overspending on hardware it's quite common, instead of paying more employees with the same money.

Problem with permissions and vi

2008-12-02 Thread Adam Zaleski
Hello, I have a problem setting up some permissions to file and editing this file with vi.. I have two different examples to show you what I mean... First one: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo some text some_file.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ chmod 000 some_file.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l

Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port

2008-12-02 Thread Leslie Jensen
Jerry skrev: On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:38:02 +0100 Leslie Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? I'm considering a move to kde4 but I want a clean install, so I want to remove the kde3 meta-port first. Well, you might try navigating to the kde3 port

Re: mount problem after enabling serial console

2008-12-02 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 08:52:58 Ji wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 December 2008 07:41:17 Ji wrote: Hi all, ... atapci0: Intel ICH9 SATA300 controller port 0xbc30-0xbc37,0xbc28-0xbc2b,0xbc38-0xbc3f,0xbc2c-0xbc2f,0xbc40-0xbc4f,0x

Re: Problem with permissions and vi

2008-12-02 Thread Anthony M. Rasat
Why I am able to put some text into some_file.txt with chmod 000 using vi editor and why i can not do the same using echo??? I'm not exactly vi master or guru here but I think it's because you write vi with :wq! command. If you write tried to write some_file.txt with :w instead, vi would

Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port

2008-12-02 Thread andrew clarke
On Tue 2008-12-02 19:26:40 UTC+0530, Masoom Shaikh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? can try `pkg_delete -a` No Masoom, this is wrong advice. pkg_delete(1) manpage: -a, --all Unconditionally delete all currently installed packages.

Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms...

2008-12-02 Thread andrew clarke
On Tue 2008-12-02 00:41:58 UTC-0600, Javier Vasquez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I was reading chapter 4 of the handbook, as well as chapters 24 and 26... If I got it clear, I pretty much might get the base system updated by using freebsd-update script. Ports collection can get updated with

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 11:53:23AM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Polytropon wrote: ad0 |---| the whole disk ad0s1 \--/ one slice ad0s1X

Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms...

2008-12-02 Thread andrew clarke
On Tue 2008-12-02 09:28:44 UTC+0100, Mel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Portupgrade -PP is detrimental for bandwidth. It's not really portupgrade's fault (well, partially, it shouldn't offer the feature), because it will quite often download Latest/foo.tbz, unpack it entirely and then say oops,

Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms...

2008-12-02 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 17:13:58 andrew clarke wrote: On Tue 2008-12-02 09:28:44 UTC+0100, Mel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Portupgrade -PP is detrimental for bandwidth. It's not really portupgrade's fault (well, partially, it shouldn't offer the feature), because it will quite often

Re: (no subject)

2008-12-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 10:56:44AM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: If one has a system with 7 500Gb SATA disks in a hardware RAID6 (Areca Raid Controller), then (according to mail J.Chadwick 7 Nov 2008) they will show up as da (following naming convention for scsi disks although they are not).

Re: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-12-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: On Behalf Of Chad Perrin While I agree that, without some kind of supporting argument, the statement that Linux systems are low end Unix replacements are kind of spurious sounding, I don't think that market share is really an

Re: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-12-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 07:39:39PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: unix is not windows replacements. all of these GUI overlays for which that much noise is heard are not just overlays, but are poorly designed even more poorly than windows. Windows is poorly designed too but at least it's

Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms...

2008-12-02 Thread andrew clarke
On Tue 2008-12-02 17:22:53 UTC+0100, Mel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yes, this happens. -PP is not ideal for regular updates but it's still useful for when you have a new FreeBSD install with no packages installed, and want to get up and running quickly, grabbing the most recent binaries

Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms...

2008-12-02 Thread Javier Vasquez
On 12/2/08, andrew clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue 2008-12-02 00:41:58 UTC-0600, Javier Vasquez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I was reading chapter 4 of the handbook, as well as chapters 24 and 26... If I got it clear, I pretty much might get the base system updated by using

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 11:17:40AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:56:44 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If FreeBSD is to put on the system as only operating system (Fdisk: A = Use Entire disk), then will the BSD-partitions will show up as ad0a (/),

Re: To swap or not to swap

2008-12-02 Thread Mikel King
On Dec 2, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Anthony M. Rasat wrote: Fellas, I need opinions. Asus Eee PC, SSD storage, 512MB RAM, with GNOME and other desktop thingy (testing out of curiousity). Question is, swap or no swap? Remember, this is SSD, it is reasonable to have no swap. However, what if I

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Dan
Wojciech Puchar([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.12.02 11:09:53 +0100: What about DragonFlyBSD's new HAMMER FS? I hear it has similar capabilities as ZFS without the overhead. Though, strangely, I haven't really heard anyone discuss it even though it was released some months ago. it's maybe

Best Journaling File System - ZFS/???

2008-12-02 Thread Don O'Neil
With all the discussions of ZFS lately, I'm beginning to wonder if it's really ready for a production environment. Concerns over memory utilization, speed, stability, etc... So, my question is this... If you were building a brand new 6.3/7.0 server with decent performance (dual core, 32 Bit OS -

Re: Best Journaling File System - ZFS/???

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
With all the discussions of ZFS lately, I'm beginning to wonder if it's really ready for a production environment. Concerns over memory utilization, no speed, stability, etc... So, my question is this... If you were building a brand new 6.3/7.0 server with decent performance (dual core, 32

Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms...

2008-12-02 Thread Boris Samorodov
Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday 02 December 2008 17:13:58 andrew clarke wrote: On Tue 2008-12-02 09:28:44 UTC+0100, Mel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Portupgrade -PP is detrimental for bandwidth. It's not really portupgrade's fault (well, partially, it shouldn't offer the feature),

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
It's already usable on DragonFly. DragonFLY itself is stable, but only supports one CPUIt probably will never be ported to FreeBSD due to API differences. time to wait and see if they will really make dragonfly faster than FreeBSD (it's their goal)...

Re: To swap or not to swap

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Fellas, I need opinions. Asus Eee PC, SSD storage, 512MB RAM, with GNOME and other desktop thingy (testing out of curiousity). Question is, swap or no swap? Remember, this is SSD, it is reasonable to have no swap. However, what if I wanted OpenOffice? This beast is memory hog AFAIK. Thanks

Re: To swap or not to swap

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Anthony, SSD or no, I feel that you should treat it as you would any other hard disks doesn't wear on writes. SSD do ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any

Installation on a Dell Poweredge R805

2008-12-02 Thread Chris Boyd
I'm having an issue installing FreeBSD 7 AMD64 on a Dell Poweredge R805. The system starts to boot, throws several mpt_cam_event 0x12 and 0x16 errors, presents the boot menu, and then crashes with a Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode and then wants to reboot. This is a dual

Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Matthew Seaman
Pieter Donche wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. So this would point to ia64 distribution? But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are

Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Matthew Seaman
Pieter Donche wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. So this would point to ia64 distribution? But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are

Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution

2008-12-02 Thread Matthew Seaman
Pieter Donche wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. So this would point to ia64 distribution? But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are

Re: To swap or not to swap

2008-12-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 04:56:52PM +, Anthony M. Rasat wrote: Fellas, I need opinions. Asus Eee PC, SSD storage, 512MB RAM, with GNOME and other desktop thingy (testing out of curiousity). Question is, swap or no swap? Remember, this is SSD, it is reasonable to have no swap. However,

Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms...

2008-12-02 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 19:03:44 Boris Samorodov wrote: Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday 02 December 2008 17:13:58 andrew clarke wrote: On Tue 2008-12-02 09:28:44 UTC+0100, Mel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Portupgrade -PP is detrimental for bandwidth. It's not really

RE: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-12-02 Thread Bob McConnell
On Behalf Of Chad Perrin On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: On Behalf Of Chad Perrin On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before they can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best way to attack that problem is to find a

Re: any way to turn a pdf file into something OCR-able?

2008-12-02 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 08:23:09PM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: Roland Smith writes: pdftotext fail on the large [32MB] file I've got. Is there any other way I can translate this huge textfile to ascii or html or text? Please define fail in this context? I've used

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Ivan Voras
Wojciech Puchar wrote: It's already usable on DragonFly. DragonFLY itself is stable, but only supports one CPUIt probably will never be ported to FreeBSD due to API differences. time to wait and see if they will really make dragonfly faster than FreeBSD (it's their goal)...

Re: To swap or not to swap

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Yes, have some swap. The system uses this space for more than swapping out processes. It uses it for paging and for crash dumping. The rule of thumb is 2.2 times memory size. why not 2.17? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-12-02 Thread michael
Bob McConnell wrote: On Behalf Of Chad Perrin On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: On Behalf Of Chad Perrin On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before they can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best

Re: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-12-02 Thread michael
Bob McConnell wrote: On Behalf Of Chad Perrin On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: On Behalf Of Chad Perrin On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before they can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Ivan Voras
Wojciech Puchar wrote: What about DragonFlyBSD's new HAMMER FS? I hear it has similar capabilities as ZFS without the overhead. Though, strangely, I haven't really heard anyone discuss it even though it was released some months ago. it's maybe pre-pre-prerelease. it's not finished

Re: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-12-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 01:41:43PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: On Behalf Of Chad Perrin On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: On Behalf Of Chad Perrin On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before they can match Microsoft's ease of use

Re: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-12-02 Thread Tyson Boellstorff
Once you fix basic problems like these, then we can talk about how to redefine ease of use. Bob McConnell ease of use is always relative to the person using. Ease of use is also relative to the training investment. In X, a moderate investment some 20-odd years ago still pays, even

Re: To swap or not to swap

2008-12-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 08:01:22PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Yes, have some swap. The system uses this space for more than swapping out processes. It uses it for paging and for crash dumping. The rule of thumb is 2.2 times memory size. why not 2.17? Sounds good to me.Takes one

Re: To swap or not to swap

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Yes, have some swap. The system uses this space for more than swapping out processes. It uses it for paging and for crash dumping. The rule of thumb is 2.2 times memory size. why not 2.17? Sounds good to me.Takes one more character to type... and both 2.2 and 2.17 is nonsense. the

Re: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
This is why I can easily justify teaching my elders FreeBSD -- they unquestionably have more to learn, but they only learn it once, so the investment pays off. but most people don't like to learn. even once. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I don't think HAMMER intends to implement a significant portion of ZFS's it intends to implement what's needed. anyway - lets wait when it will be really finished ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-02 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:53:23 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know / is the root partition, but /root is the home-directory of the user root (/etc/passwd: root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh). I doubt this will ever be needed to be large? There is no special advice about

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
time to wait and see if they will really make dragonfly faster than FreeBSD (it's their goal)... http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/dfly.html Good luck to them, they need it :) indeed:) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Firefox Compile Issues

2008-12-02 Thread Chris Maness
I am compiling firefox 3. It just hangs at these lines. /usr/ports/www/firefox3/work/mozilla/security/nss/cmd/shlibsign/FreeBSD7.0_OPT.OBJ/shlibsign -v -i /usr/ports/www/firefox3/work/mozilla/dist/lib/libsoftokn3.so ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-12-02 Thread michael
Tyson Boellstorff wrote: Once you fix basic problems like these, then we can talk about how to redefine ease of use. Bob McConnell ease of use is always relative to the person using. Ease of use is also relative to the training investment. In X, a moderate investment some

Re: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-12-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 08:23:49PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: This is why I can easily justify teaching my elders FreeBSD -- they unquestionably have more to learn, but they only learn it once, so the investment pays off. but most people don't like to learn. even once. You need to begin

cups from latest portsnap and CURRENT

2008-12-02 Thread michael
is there a magic foo i need to make it work? sees my printer, says its printing, finishes job, and yet.. no paper. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail

mx1.freebsd.org

2008-12-02 Thread Ebbe Hjorth
Hi, My postfix mail servers shows to messages in the queue saying (host mx1.FreeBSD.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [86.58.167.132] (in reply to RCPT TO command)) But when i do a lookup or a reverse lookup, i find my hostname. Does

Re: Swapping to MMC (Was: To swap or not to swap)

2008-12-02 Thread michael
Anthony M. Rasat wrote: The rule of thumb is 2.2 times memory size. why not 2.17? Sounds good to me.Takes one more character to type... and both 2.2 and 2.17 is nonsense. the only rule is use as much as needed It's fun watching you fellas argue about 0.03 thing.

Re: sshit runs out of semaphores

2008-12-02 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 04:54:27 Bill Moran wrote: In response to DA Forsyth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hiya I recently started (trying) to use sshit to filter the many brute force sshd attacks. However, it has never worked on my box. FreeBSD 7.0 p1. This morning it would only give a

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Dan
Ivan Voras([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.12.02 20:00:46 +0100: Wojciech Puchar wrote: It's already usable on DragonFly. DragonFLY itself is stable, but only supports one CPUIt probably will never be ported to FreeBSD due to API differences. time to wait and see if they will really make

Re: Swapping to MMC (Was: To swap or not to swap)

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I put in your opinions in kinda pros or cons to swap in Asus Eee PC like following: Pros: 1) System requires swap. Period. it doesn't. Cons: 1) Since SSD is manufactured have limited lifetime (around 100,000 1 for MLC flash it uses. after every rewrite flash gets less reliable and

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
That's a stupid benchmark. DragonFly doesn't have SMP support yet. my benchmark is to start it install programs i use commonly and compare it to other system. on single-core machine i tested FreeBSD is faster. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: Best Journaling File System - ZFS/???

2008-12-02 Thread Dan
Don O'Neil([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.12.02 08:57:58 -0800: With all the discussions of ZFS lately, I'm beginning to wonder if it's really ready for a production environment. Concerns over memory utilization, speed, stability, etc... From everything I've read people use it in production

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Peter Giessel
time to wait and see if they will really make dragonfly faster than FreeBSD (it's their goal)... http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/dfly.html Good luck to them, they need it :) That's a stupid benchmark. DragonFly doesn't have SMP support yet. So? Look at just the UP scores

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Albert Shih
Le 01/12/2008 à 09:59:15-0600, Kirk Strauser a écrit I have ZFS on my 7.1-PRERELEASE system, and while it does some spiffy things, in general I'm a bit underwhelmed. PROS: Adding new filesystems on a whim is really nice. It has a lot of really cool other features that I will

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
performance and 1.8 times higher than freebsd 4 UP performance. Please explain how DragonFly's lack of SMP affects the UP performance? doesn't affect of course. yes dragonflybsd is slower. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
To come back to FreeBSD, I'm using FreeBSD since 10 years, UFS is very slow, and when UFS2 is release I'm very happy to switch to UFS2. simply turn on softupdates and turn off atime ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-02 Thread Dan
Wojciech Puchar([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.12.02 22:14:55 +0100: That's a stupid benchmark. DragonFly doesn't have SMP support yet. my benchmark is to start it install programs i use commonly and compare it to other system. on single-core machine i tested FreeBSD is faster. Good things come

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