On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 05:11:00PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
But if I remember my legal and ethics course correctly if you can arrive
at a conclusion through your own research then your reasonably clear.
For example, the drivers are closed source but the hardware itself is an
entirely separate
Hello, all!
I have Asus X51RL laptop with FreeBSD 7.1-RC1 installed.
There were no troubles with GENERIC kernel, but when I've compiled custom
kernel, rl ethernet driver tells to the console a lot of errors:
rl0: link state changed to UP
rl0: watchdog timeout
rl0: watchdog timeout
Any mistake?
I think that can be handled quite easily by community social pressure,
and moderation would just set a precedent for it's someone else's job.
moderation is needed. Things like community social pressure
simply doesn't. Like with democracy - those who are more common and louder
will takeover,
and exactly is needed on that group. it would be enough that moderator's
job will be just removing posts that classify to NTG. NOTHING else.
As long as neither you, nor anyone that thinks like you, is in charge of
moderation, it might not be a *complete* disaster.
of course it should be you
There are many constructive ways of improving FreeBSD. You have already
submitted 7 bug reports in out bug database. If you think you can help
of which at least 2 was completely ignored;) (no even response)
by submitting *more* bug reports, testing FreeBSD patches, developing
new FreeBSD
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 01:49:57PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
I think the list you're looking for when you talk about only discussing
the base-system already exists (probably stable or arch). This is
freebsd questions- and the nature of the list according to the
all-knowing handbook
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:06:58 +0100 (CET),
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
Now i'm using FreeBSD and it got better each version. Really better,
not better.
And i really want to keep it that way, because there is no alternative
now!
There are many constructive ways of
Unfortunately, anything covered by a patent, as I hinted
above, is verboten.
Er, doesn't it depend on what is patented? If the h/w itself is
patented, but its software-visible interface is not, there should be
no problem writing a driver for that h/w. OTOH if the algorithms
used in the
After some messing around with various efforts on the depenguinator I came up
with this scheme for getting a freebsd boot using an external freebsd machine ie
not using the target to create the boot.
##freebsd machine
#get the freebsd bootonly location
wget [use your local
base system: nothing appropriate
Maybe what we need isn't for you to keep complaining about 70% of the
very helpful list traffic,
helpful for whom?
thus producing another 5% of the list traffic
yourself (directly, and indirectly through annoyed responses to you), but
for someone to come
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 12:54 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Most of them don't.
Considering that, the moment someone shows up and says I'm a Windows
user, but I'm thinking about trying out FreeBSD, you immediately assume
the person doesn't want to learn without bothering to read any
I have a server that was running Free BSD 4.7 for a number of years. I DO NOT
have easy physical access to it, its in a datacenter and i cant get to it
myself or at this point rely on anyone there to put in a new install disk or
anything.
Ive replaced this server with a new one for production
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:59:02 -0800, Noah adm...@enabled.com wrote:
If you have customized `dired-listing-switches' try reverting it to a
simpler set of options, like:
(setq-default dired-listing-switches -lFa)
The -b and -B options tend to confuse dired about what the *real*
filename
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:59:02 -0800, Noah adm...@enabled.com wrote:
I am
unable to rename a directory that has nine '?'.
Maybe Midnight Commander - PF6: Rename - will do the job?
(Workaround)
--
Polytropon
From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:59:02 -0800, Noah adm...@enabled.com wrote:
I am
unable to rename a directory that has nine '?'.
Maybe Midnight Commander - PF6: Rename - will do the job?
(Workaround)
okay I dont quite understand. what is midnight commander - PF6: Rename?
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:59:02 -0800, Noah adm...@enabled.com wrote:
If you have customized `dired-listing-switches' try reverting it to a
simpler set of options, like:
(setq-default dired-listing-switches -lFa)
The -b and -B options tend to confuse dired about what
can this thread be closed now?
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:49:43 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
I think that can be handled quite easily by community social
pressure, and moderation would just set a precedent for it's
someone else's job.
moderation is needed. Things like community social
freebsd-questions User questions and technical support
Exactly. Note, however, that 'user questions' means something very
different from what you are pushing to convince everybody else :-)
so please start to answer every possible question. for example problems
with windows ftp
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:14:32 -0800, Noah adm...@enabled.com wrote:
Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:59:02 -0800, Noah adm...@enabled.com wrote:
I am
unable to rename a directory that has nine '?'.
Maybe Midnight Commander - PF6: Rename - will do the job?
(Workaround)
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Giorgos Keramidas
keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:17:38 -0800, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net
wrote:
The conversations on ports@ seem to be mostly concerned with the needs
of port maintainers rather than the users of ports. If you
Hi there,
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:52:01 -0800, Noah adm...@enabled.com wrote:
* Use a file manager.
I often use `dired-mode' inside an Emacs session to move around,
copy, re-organize, rename or delete files. Any file manager that
can display
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:17:38 -0800, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net
wrote:
The conversations on ports@ seem to be mostly concerned with the needs
of port maintainers rather than the users of ports. If you have
problems getting a port to build or a package added, it feels like the
right
Most of them don't.
Considering that, the moment someone shows up and says I'm a Windows
user, but I'm thinking about trying out FreeBSD, you immediately assume
the person doesn't want to learn without bothering to read any further, I
yes. because if this person would like, he/she would read
I.e. freebsd-quesitions is for all FreeBSD-related questions, not only
questions about the FreeBSD base system.
from handbook:
freebsd-questions User questions and technical support
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Sorry for being to briefly.
1.
The Midnight Commander is a curses based file manager that might
be a workaround for the problem you can't solve using Emacs at
the moment. It can be installed via ports or (more simple) from
packages using pkg_add -r mc. The command to run it is mc.
2.
PF6
It's already happening on that group that's why i talk about starting
moderation to remove all posts that are not about group topic!
Group topic? As far as I can tell, the topic is user questions
about FreeBSD
(according to http://lists.freebsd.org/ and the List-Id header). Where
exactly is
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:49:57 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
I think the list you're looking for when you talk about only
discussing the base-system already exists (probably stable or
arch). This is freebsd questions- and the nature of the list
according to
moderation is needed. Things like community social pressure
simply doesn't. Like with democracy - those who are more common and
louder will takeover, no matter if it make sense or not.
Yes, and you have gone a long way in proving just that point. Your
narrow minded, inability to accept anyone
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 19:21 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:39:26AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
Hence why I tend to send really green unix newbies to linux school than
grind their teeth on FreeBSD straight up. Let em get their skills and
experience in how *nix in general
I don't think it is that bad - the intent is for the software to be
freely available for *people* to use. It is actually about our freedom.
You have it right. Copyleft licenses defend freedom for all users by
stopping middlemen from stripping it away.
We have no plans for a version 4
That's THAT simple, unless you like it to be more complicated.
No there isn't.
The freebsd-newbies list has been merged with freebsd-questions for
several years now.
You could have easily verified this by following the link to:
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies
When I say that FreeBSD is *not* a bunch elitist bastards and we do
*not* like driving users away, I am aware of how serious it is to 'speak
on behalf of the entire FreeBSD team'
I speak only for myself. As i already wrote, i don't want FreeBSD to be
turned into mainstream crap, because there
Why not send them to something like DesktopBSD or PC-BSD, or even
FreeSBIE (if that project is still around)? If they go to some chintzy
user-obsequious Linux distribution like PCLinuxOS first, they'll just
have more stuff to unlearn *if* it ever occurs to them to give some BSD
Unix variant a
Heh. The customer is /always/ right, even when they're wrong. The
difference is that you give the idiot customers exactly what they ask
for, and the good customers what they actually need
which cannot be done.
you choose idiots or good customers, as it's effectively 2 market niches.
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:52:01 -0800, Noah adm...@enabled.com wrote:
* Use a file manager.
I often use `dired-mode' inside an Emacs session to move around,
copy, re-organize, rename or delete files. Any file manager that
can display several character sets at once will do
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 02:16 -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Unfortunately, anything covered by a patent, as I hinted
above, is verboten.
Er, doesn't it depend on what is patented? If the h/w itself is
patented, but its software-visible interface is not, there should be
no problem
I think the list you're looking for when you talk about only discussing
the base-system already exists (probably stable or arch). This is
freebsd questions- and the nature of the list according to the
all-knowing handbook IS for newbies, people who probably won't
understand the difference
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 12:49 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
I think that can be handled quite easily by community social pressure,
and moderation would just set a precedent for it's someone else's job.
moderation is needed. Things like community social pressure
simply doesn't. Like with
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 02:11 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 05:11:00PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
But if I remember my legal and ethics course correctly if you can arrive
at a conclusion through your own research then your reasonably clear.
For example, the drivers are
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:49:43PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
I think that can be handled quite easily by community social pressure,
and moderation would just set a precedent for it's someone else's job.
moderation is needed. Things like community social pressure simply
doesn't. Like
That might be a valid concern if your notion of off topic didn't
include things that pretty much everyone else seems to think is on topic
enough to fit into this list.
do we have to start deciding what's on-topic by voting?
congratulations
i don't mean moderation like removing one
Actually, Pentium M processors may well be the best x86-compatible CPUs
of their generation -- low power consumption relative to the competition,
and the best performance per dollar in their class. Pentium 4, though,
certainly sucks.
as having pentium-M laptop and pentium-4 server i can only
Hi!
I'm going to setup a system with a dial-up modem for sporadic
Internet access; a provider that charges per second online time
is used. Is there a way ppp (which is used for dialing) can log
the online time (or at least the connection's start and stop time)
so the costs can be calculated?
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:06:52 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
I.e. freebsd-quesitions is for all FreeBSD-related questions, not
only questions about the FreeBSD base system.
from handbook:
freebsd-questions User questions and technical support
Exactly.
i don't think that has to happen at all.
personally i think self-moderation is best, followed by moderation
(which i haven't found to be a bad thing).
here the former seems to be dominant because of the quality of people
on the list, so it is quite sufficient.
this quality gets down. not
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:04:52 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:57:28PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
bad (TM).
No -- at *any* level:
you are wrong.
for example you WILL like to control what oficially your employees
ktalk about your company.
That's not censorship -- it's a nondisclosure agreement.
There are users on this list who would love to see users of FBSD bound
by an NDA so that they could not say anything these self appointed
CENSORS consider verboten.
you are excellent at messing things up.
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:12:16 +0100 (CET),
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
freebsd-questions User questions and technical support
Exactly. Note, however, that 'user questions' means something very
different from what you are pushing to convince everybody else :-)
so
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Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
| I have a server that was running Free BSD 4.7 for a number of years. I
| DO NOT have easy physical access to it, its in a datacenter and i cant get
| to it myself or at this point rely on anyone there to put in a
I'm going to setup a system with a dial-up modem for sporadic
Internet access; a provider that charges per second online time
is used. Is there a way ppp (which is used for dialing) can log
the online time (or at least the connection's start and stop time)
so the costs can be calculated?
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:31:16AM +0300, Gennady Kudryashoff wrote:
Hello, all!
I have Asus X51RL laptop with FreeBSD 7.1-RC1 installed.
There were no troubles with GENERIC kernel, but when I've compiled custom
kernel, rl ethernet driver tells to the console a lot of errors:
rl0: link
Hi,
I have a machine
AMD Sepron LE-1150
ASUS M2A-VM
1GB RAM ECC
2x SATA 300GB
in a RAID 1 (gmirror).
7.0-RELEASE-p2 AMD64 generic kernel
it was doing backups via bacula to an external disk
USB 2.0 SATA disk, and it was working well. (GLabel) /dev/ufs/BackupDisk
I changed to rsnapshot recently,
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
ad2: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=0
ad2: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=1
ad2: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=1
The flash drive is detected with 3940272 sectors. Is there a way to
control the LBA= parameter? Does it matter if I
Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes:
I'm trying to install php5-extensions (which includes firebird), but its
failing with an error code 1 on firebird20-client. It does mention
running make to build firebird, but not as root. So I've tried
everything to get this to work: running make
Gennady Kudryashoff glothlor...@mail.ru writes:
Hello, all!
I have Asus X51RL laptop with FreeBSD 7.1-RC1 installed.
There were no troubles with GENERIC kernel, but when I've compiled custom
kernel, rl ethernet driver tells to the console a lot of errors:
rl0: link state changed to UP
guys,
last friday i found a public domain DVD-ROM of books available
for free d/l. turns out there were 13 huge files in rar files.
I have all. can these be catted together and the unrard to form
the original?
Oh: there was another version
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:53:39PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
and exactly is needed on that group. it would be enough that moderator's
job will be just removing posts that classify to NTG. NOTHING else.
As long as neither you, nor anyone that thinks like you, is in charge of
moderation,
just use unrar under archivers in ports collection. dont have to cat
all the rar files together, unrar can un-compress it in sequence and
generate the original files.
TFC
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
guys,
last friday i found a public
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 01:16:23PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
It's already happening on that group that's why i talk about starting
moderation to remove all posts that are not about group topic!
Group topic? As far as I can tell, the topic is user questions
about FreeBSD
Apparently you
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 08:14:10PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 19:21 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:39:26AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
Hence why I tend to send really green unix newbies to linux school than
grind their teeth on FreeBSD straight up. Let
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 02:13:03PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
That's THAT simple, unless you like it to be more complicated.
No there isn't.
The freebsd-newbies list has been merged with freebsd-questions for
several years now.
You could have easily verified this by following the
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:53:01PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
That might be a valid concern if your notion of off topic didn't
include things that pretty much everyone else seems to think is on topic
enough to fit into this list.
do we have to start deciding what's on-topic by voting?
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 13:49 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
I think the list you're looking for when you talk about only discussing
the base-system already exists (probably stable or arch). This is
freebsd questions- and the nature of the list according to the
all-knowing handbook IS for
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 01:44:41PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
moderation is needed. Things like community social pressure
simply doesn't. Like with democracy - those who are more common and
louder will takeover, no matter if it make sense or not.
Yes, and you have gone a long way in
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 01:06:58PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
base system: nothing appropriate
Maybe what we need isn't for you to keep complaining about 70% of the
very helpful list traffic,
helpful for whom?
thus producing another 5% of the list traffic
yourself (directly, and
On Monday 15 December 2008 11:14:08 Chad Perrin wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:53:39PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
and exactly is needed on that group. it would be enough that
moderator's job will be just removing posts that classify to NTG.
NOTHING else.
As long as neither you,
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 14:29 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes:
I'm trying to install php5-extensions (which includes firebird), but its
failing with an error code 1 on firebird20-client. It does mention
running make to build firebird, but not as
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 02:16:34AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Unfortunately, anything covered by a patent, as I hinted
above, is verboten.
Er, doesn't it depend on what is patented? If the h/w itself is
patented, but its software-visible interface is not, there should be
no
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 01:08:18PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Actually, Pentium M processors may well be the best x86-compatible CPUs
of their generation -- low power consumption relative to the competition,
and the best performance per dollar in their class. Pentium 4, though,
certainly
Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes:
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 14:29 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes:
I'm trying to install php5-extensions (which includes firebird), but its
failing with an error code 1 on firebird20-client. It does mention
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:27:30PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
If you have done your own research then the algorithms wouldn't
necessarily be the same- they'd nearly certainly be different, wouldn't
they? So isn't that the basis for the patent? A patent is a registration
of an idea. Two different
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:34:20AM -0900, Beech Rintoul wrote:
On Monday 15 December 2008 11:14:08 Chad Perrin wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:53:39PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
and exactly is needed on that group. it would be enough that
moderator's job will be just removing posts
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:25:29 -0500
Jerry ges...@yahoo.com wrote:
Actually, I like your reference to 'Democracy'. Coming from a
socialist, the very thought of an open discussion on any matter that
does not fit in your narrow parameters would seem objectionable.
there are some serious problems
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 13:43 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 02:16:34AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Unfortunately, anything covered by a patent, as I hinted
above, is verboten.
Er, doesn't it depend on what is patented? If the h/w itself is
patented, but
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 15:49 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes:
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 14:29 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes:
I'm trying to install php5-extensions (which includes firebird), but its
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 13:47 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:27:30PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
If you have done your own research then the algorithms wouldn't
necessarily be the same- they'd nearly certainly be different, wouldn't
they? So isn't that the basis for the
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 08:38:35AM -0500, Richard M Stallman wrote:
I don't think it is that bad - the intent is for the software to be
freely available for *people* to use. It is actually about our freedom.
You have it right. Copyleft licenses defend freedom for all users by
Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes:
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 15:49 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes:
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 14:29 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes:
I'm trying to install
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:34:20 -0900
Beech Rintoul be...@freebsd.org wrote:
Guys, enough! This thread is starting to spam the list.
i agree too at this point and apologize for some of my
earlier contributions.
it is clear there will probably be no resolution between the engaging
parties of which
my son read somewhere that linux does better power management than
freebsd. one specific item being that the cpu scaling is more
efficiently handled.
i don't know much about this stuff so i thought i'd ask here.
1. is there any accuracy to the statement?
2. is cpu scaling a kernel issue? if so,
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:51:03 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
That's not censorship -- it's a nondisclosure agreement.
There are users on this list who would love to see users of FBSD
bound by an NDA so that they could not say anything these self
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Jeff Laine skrev:
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 02:00:12PM +0100, Roger Olofsson wrote:
Dear mailing list,
I am sorry if this question has been asked over and over again -
however the htdig search interface for the lists is
for free d/l. turns out there were 13 huge files in rar files.
I have all. can these be catted together and the unrard to form
the original?
don't cat.
just unrar x firstfile
unrar handles split archives
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So, we end up splitting the potential FreeBSD users between Ubuntu and
Fedora with more of them going to Ubuntu because not quite as many become
very nice. after trying FreeBSD they WILL get back to linux (and then
windows) quickly.
Those who REALLY know they need something different, like
Guys, enough! This thread is starting to spam the list. Please take this to
freebsd-chat or off list.
OK i wont post on that anymore.
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Здравствуйте, Questions.
It there feature (option in rc.subr) to run multiple services at once?
For example I have 'service'
to run service with specific flags I want to do:
service_enable=YES
service_instances=instance1 instance2
service_instance1_flags=-flag 1 rl0
my son read somewhere that linux does better power management than
freebsd. one specific item being that the cpu scaling is more
efficiently handled.
my friend told me that freebsd does it better ;)
anyway it's just been told, somewhere etc.
to compare things we first need to set up a metric
Chad Perrin wrote:
Tell that to the uncountable hordes of dedicated Linux users who don't
know what they're missing and, as such, see no reason to even give
FreeBSD a try.
Many Linux people I know still think FreeBSD SMP sucks, that combined
with a lack of journaling filesystem on BSD gives
instance it has first one already runned. And he add second instance
because of it is not enough to have only one instance. So
proftpd_enable=YES will enable all instances
proftpd_enable=NO will disable all instances
proftpd_external_enable=NO will disable some instance
For example: user run
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 16:49 -0500, Mark Moellering wrote:
Da Rock wrote:
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 15:49 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes:
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 14:29 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Da Rock
As a matter of fact I never use true root I ALWAYS use su (believe it or
what's a practical difference between logging to root directly or doing
su?
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:13:38PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
So, we end up splitting the potential FreeBSD users between Ubuntu and
Fedora with more of them going to Ubuntu because not quite as many become
very nice. after trying FreeBSD they WILL get back to linux (and then
windows)
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 23:46 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
As a matter of fact I never use true root I ALWAYS use su (believe it or
what's a practical difference between logging to root directly or doing
su?
The log files log exactly who did what instead of anonymously. At the
least they
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 02:22:31PM -0800, Brian Whalen wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
Tell that to the uncountable hordes of dedicated Linux users who don't
know what they're missing and, as such, see no reason to even give
FreeBSD a try.
Many Linux people I know still think FreeBSD SMP
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:20:51 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
IMHO it depends on hardware
ya that makes sense at least from reading about different cpu state
descriptions here:
Everything You Need to Know About the CPU C-States Power Saving Modes
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 07:07:36AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 13:43 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 02:16:34AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Unfortunately, anything covered by a patent, as I hinted
above, is verboten.
Er, doesn't it
Simply - install linux, then FreeBSD on same machine and check it :)
:D
ya that's what's important here at least.
anyway - just using hlt instruction greatly reduces CPU power usage even
at full clock. i don't think the difference is THAT huge by reducing clock
multipliers, voltage etc.
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 16:23 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 07:07:36AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 13:43 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 02:16:34AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Unfortunately, anything covered by a patent, as I
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:56:43 +0200, KES kes-...@yandex.ru wrote:
It there feature (option in rc.subr) to run multiple services at once?
None that I know of.
For example I have 'service'
to run service with specific flags I want to do:
service_enable=YES
service_instances=instance1
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