Re: FreeBSD 7.1 on Intel server board S3200SHV

2009-02-22 Thread Martin Schweizer
Hello Abdullah Thanks for the hint. Regards, Am Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 09:57:35AM -0800 Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri schrieb: - Original Message From: Martin Schweizer lists_free...@bluewin.ch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:37:42 PM

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2009-02-22 Thread GrimJow Espada
what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:54 AM, GrimJow Espada grimjow.esp...@gmail.com wrote: what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd How would this affect FreeBSD? If you don't like Gentoo or Gentoo/BSD, the (very simple)

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Remorque
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:54 PM, GrimJow Espada grimjow.esp...@gmail.comwrote: what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd @Espada, According to you, is Gentoo/BSD the same thing as FreeBSD? And haven't you

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd so don't use it - like me. that's all :) what a problem? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: When is there going to be a USB install and run iso iamge for FreeBSD?

2009-02-22 Thread Remorque
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 1:32 AM, George Hartzell hartz...@alerce.comwrote: Formula 1 writes: Is there going to be a possibility for FreeBSD, in the future or now, that there will be a release of it that allows for install and running of the operating system off of a USB memory stick?

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread GrimJow Espada
hah! ok! On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Remorque odhia...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:54 PM, GrimJow Espada grimjow.esp...@gmail.com wrote: what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd

FreeBSD on Intel Xeon processor 5160

2009-02-22 Thread Metias Adel
Dear Sir, I have IBM x3550 server with Intel Xeon (Dual-Core) processors 5160 @ 3.0 GHz. I need to install FreeBSD 7.0 but I do not know which type of FreeBSD I have to use to take the best performance of the EM64T and Hyperthreading Technologies. Thank you in advance. Best regards, Metias

Re: FreeBSD on Intel Xeon processor 5160

2009-02-22 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 03:41:23PM +0200, Metias Adel wrote: I have IBM x3550 server with Intel Xeon (Dual-Core) processors 5160 @ 3.0 GHz. I need to install FreeBSD 7.0 but I do not know which type of FreeBSD I have to use to take the best performance of the EM64T and Hyperthreading

Re: FreeBSD on Intel Xeon processor 5160

2009-02-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Dear Sir, I have IBM x3550 server with Intel Xeon (Dual-Core) processors 5160 @ 3.0 GHz. I need to install FreeBSD 7.0 but I do not know which type of FreeBSD I have to use to take the best performance of the EM64T and Hyperthreading Technologies. Thank you in advance. EM64T == amd64 so

Re: FreeBSD on Intel Xeon processor 5160

2009-02-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
You should probably use the amd64 version of you want to use more than 4GB of memory. AND IF YOU DO NOT. it's normal to use natural architecture, not backward compatibility. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Saifi Khan
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 9:54 AM, GrimJow Espada grimjow.esp...@gmail.com wrote: what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd FreeBSD popularity will be affected if the big cats (ie. networking companies) continue

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
FreeBSD popularity will be affected if the big cats (ie. networking companies) continue to not contribute back the this will affect their sales - FreeBSD user will simply buy network card from another manufacturer. Does anybody know where FreeBSD (in particular) (NetBSD and OpenBSD) is

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Saifi Khan
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: FreeBSD popularity will be affected if the big cats (ie. networking companies) continue to not contribute back the this will affect their sales - FreeBSD user will simply buy network card from another

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread cpghost
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +, Saifi Khan wrote: The existing users provide continuity not growth. To be popular FreeBSD needs growth. Growth comes from new users ! It depends on the kind of new users. The aim of FreeBSD is not to be the most popular OS out there. Has never been.

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Matthew Seaman
Wojciech Puchar wrote: FreeBSD popularity will be affected if the big cats (ie. networking companies) continue to not contribute back the this will affect their sales - FreeBSD user will simply buy network card from another manufacturer. I think the keywords here are more 'Juniper' and

Re: kernel compile problems

2009-02-22 Thread Tim Judd
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 13:41 +, daemon wrote: Hi, I try to build a 7.1 kernel but when i does # make depend make clean depend So you make the dependency chain, then clean it and remake the dependency chain. You've gained nothing. make shows : make : don't know how to make

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +, Saifi Khan wrote: The existing users provide continuity not growth. To be popular FreeBSD needs growth. completely not true Growth comes from new users ! growth comes from user requirements that do make sense. no matter if it's new or old users.

No mirrors remaining, giving up. when trying to update(minor or version )

2009-02-22 Thread paljibus
Helo gurus, my system is: FreeBSD cvs2.abvent.fr 7.0-STABLE-200806 FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE-200806 #0: Mon Jun 2 18:36:08 UTC 2008 [1]r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 cvs2# I installed that half-year version of FreeBSD 7, and I get in trouble

Re: read two files simultaneously

2009-02-22 Thread Junsuk Shin
That's true. Using bigger buffer will help, but it doesn't tell why reading large size file is slower than reading small size file. On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: I'm just guessing inode structure, the physical file location on HDD

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread prad
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:07:44 + Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org wrote: To be popular FreeBSD needs growth. possibly, but being popular is not necessarily a good idea. Growth comes from new users ! neither is growth. -- In friendship, prad ...

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Wojciech Puchar wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +, Saifi Khan wrote: The existing users provide continuity not growth. To be popular FreeBSD needs growth. I think that one of FBSD's guiding principles is *correctness* ... or, at least, that's one of the higher values of the

Re: No mirrors remaining, giving up. when trying to update(minor or version )

2009-02-22 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 1:16 PM, paljibus palji...@gmail.com wrote: Helo gurus, my system is: FreeBSD cvs2.abvent.fr 7.0-STABLE-200806 FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE-200806 #0: Mon Jun 2 18:36:08 UTC 2008 [1]r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 cvs2# I

Re: No mirrors remaining, giving up. when trying to update(minor or version )

2009-02-22 Thread Manolis Kiagias
paljibus wrote: Helo gurus, my system is: FreeBSD cvs2.abvent.fr 7.0-STABLE-200806 FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE-200806 #0: Mon Jun 2 18:36:08 UTC 2008 [1]r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 cvs2# I installed that half-year version of FreeBSD 7, and

Re: Top Posting Mania [was Re: FreeBSD 7.O compiled code is very slow]

2009-02-22 Thread Doug Lee
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 06:50:04PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, Wojciech Puchar wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Kailash Kailash wrote: Woj, I'm really surprised that you, of all people, seem lately to have been converted to the Micro$oft Outlock-trained style of

Issue With 7.0-Rel - 7.1-Rel Update

2009-02-22 Thread Vince Sabio
Hi folks, I am updating an AMD-based machine from v7.0-RELEASE to v7.1-RELEASE. Here's what I get: BEGIN: ares-root# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.1-RELEASE Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.0-RELEASE from

flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread Gary Kline
Guys, If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and flashplugin-9. So far, no joy. I have firefox2, and when I try to pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies. linux-flashplugin-9 is installed as well as the pluginwrapper ports, but still YouTube won't work.

Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Gary Kline wrote: Guys, If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and flashplugin-9. So far, no joy. I have firefox2, and when I try to pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies. linux-flashplugin-9 is installed as well as the pluginwrapper ports, but still

Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread prad
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:47:23 -0800 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and flashplugin-9. So far, no joy. I have firefox2, and when I try to pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies. linux-flashplugin-9 is installed

Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread herbert langhans
Hi Gary, ff3 should work as well as ff2. May depend on the version of the pluginwrapper and the flash version. I have made up some howto, maybe you want to check your installation step by step: http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl Cheers herbs On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:47:23 -0800 Gary Kline

Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
flashplugin-9. So far, no joy. I have firefox2, and when I try to pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies. linux-flashplugin-9 is installed as well as the pluginwrapper ports, but still YouTube won't work. for youtube - use youtube-dl from ports. simply cutpaste URL and

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:11:46 +, Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org wrote: Gentoo userland and emerge tools are easier and elegant though not certainly superior to FreeBSD make mechanism. This is based on my personal experience as i heavily use Gentoo Linux and FreeBSD on older hardware.

Re: read two files simultaneously

2009-02-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
That's true. Using bigger buffer will help, but it doesn't tell why reading large size file is slower than reading small size file. really slower? or just bigger difference with large files? On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: I'm just

Accessing /dev/lpt0 in a Jail

2009-02-22 Thread Jasvinder S. Bahra
Hi, I'm trying to setup CUPS (in a jail) using an old parallel port printer on my server machine. I used ezjail to create a jail and then installed CUPS. I've got it up and running, and I can access the administration website. However, as far as I can tell, the admin website doesn't seem

Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 02:07:08PM -0800, prad wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:47:23 -0800 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and flashplugin-9. So far, no joy. I have firefox2, and when I try to pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is

Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread prad
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:28:10 -0800 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: i want video mostly to stream the pbs videos that i miss because i'm often helping my daughter with her homework:-) there is admittedly some really good stuff out there. for instance, my son and i occasionally watch

Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:02:57AM +0200, Manolis Kiagias wrote: Gary Kline wrote: Guys, If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and flashplugin-9. So far, no joy. I have firefox2, and when I try to pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies.

Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:22:50PM +0100, herbert langhans wrote: Hi Gary, ff3 should work as well as ff2. May depend on the version of the pluginwrapper and the flash version. I have made up some howto, maybe you want to check your installation step by step: http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl

Re: When is there going to be a USB install and run iso iamge for FreeBSD?

2009-02-22 Thread Steve Bertrand
Formula 1 wrote: Is there going to be a possibility for FreeBSD, in the future or now, that there will be a release of it that allows for install and running of the operating system off of a USB memory stick? What is your objective? ie. What will this box be designed to do once it is booted

Re: Accessing /dev/lpt0 in a Jail

2009-02-22 Thread Paul Procacci
Jasvinder S. Bahra wrote: Hi, I'm trying to setup CUPS (in a jail) using an old parallel port printer on my server machine. I used ezjail to create a jail and then installed CUPS. I've got it up and running, and I can access the administration website. However, as far as I can tell, the

Re: Top Posting Mania [was Re: FreeBSD 7.O compiled code is very slow]

2009-02-22 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 02:52:34PM -0500, Doug Lee wrote: I don't either, but I will provide a different data point: Blind listers, myself included, must generally read through posts sequentially, as it is usually trickier to skip reliably through quotes to the new material when using

hp TC4200 tablet

2009-02-22 Thread prad
my son has a hp TC4200 tablet which worked very well with ubuntu. he has switched to fbsd7.1 and installed /usr/ports/x11-drivers/input-wacom it was compiled without usb support since the tablet uses a serial connection. which is supposed to work, but it hangs the entire system and nothing is

Re: Problem with BASH and [ ! -t 0 ] test.

2009-02-22 Thread Karl Vogel
In a previous message, ges...@yahoo.com wrote: G I am using this snippet of code in a bash script that is run via CRON. G G # See if we are running via CRON G if [ ! -t 0 ] ... G G It runs fine from the console; however, when run via CRON, it outputs Tput: G No terminal type specified and

WPA-EAP (ath driver): trouble maintaining connection

2009-02-22 Thread Jason Morgan
(Note: I posted this to the freebsd-net@ mailing list about a week ago but never received a response. I was hoping someone on this list could offer some suggestions.) Hello, I have been having trouble maintaining a wireless connection at my university, which uses the WPA-EAP protocol. I have

Re: read two files simultaneously

2009-02-22 Thread Junsuk Shin
Both of them. Reading two 100M files in interleaved way with 16K buffer, 62MB/s Reading two 700M files in interleaved way with 16K buffer, 9MB/s Reading two 100M files in interleaved way with 1M buffer, 55MB/s get worse with large buffer somehow Reading two 700M files in interleaved way with

Re: off topic: reporting attempts to access computers

2009-02-22 Thread Steve Bertrand
Andrew Gould wrote: Yes, it's probably time to move to certificates. Thanks for the suggestion. If you realize this, then you also want to look at devising an allow-allow-deny_by_default approach for other critical protocols that you can't employ certificates for... Instead of blocking huge

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 05:54:37PM +0800, GrimJow Espada wrote: what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd I suppose, if the Gentoo/BSD project brings the stability of Gentoo to the name BSD, we might expect

What's the simplest way to get a fresh copy of the source code for the system

2009-02-22 Thread af300wsm
Hi, My churches web server is having problems compiling world for FreeBSD 7.0-p10 (I believe I just did the csup last night). It gets to this point and then stops with this error: touch gtype-desc.h touch: No such file or directory A little history for what's going on; the server was not

Re: questions

2009-02-22 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 04:24:06PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: you may try running it in wine, but anyway - if you wish to use windows based software, using windows is a best choice. That is not always true, as I've pointed out in response to one of your use Windows, not FreeBSD emails

Re: questions

2009-02-22 Thread Paul Procacci
Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 04:24:06PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: you may try running it in wine, but anyway - if you wish to use windows based software, using windows is a best choice. That is not always true, as I've pointed out in response to one of your use

Re: FreeBSD 7.1: iwi problem with intel 2200 pro wireless card

2009-02-22 Thread Curley
Moving the license agreement phrase did not change the driver/firmware behavior. I changed the firmware timeout setting (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2006-July/008849.html), and this seemed to help somewhat. Now I sometimes pick up a wireless network after rebooting, but

SCALE

2009-02-22 Thread ntwrkd
I just wanted to say the FreeBSD booth at SCALE this year was great. There was a guy named Matt there, but I don't remember his last name. If you read this please message me directly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread perryh
You can always check out ... from a date before its removal from the ports/ tree ... If you need help with maintaining a local copy of the relevant ports ... let me know and I'll write a short mini-guide for checking out the ports before their removal and building them as local ports. This

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Saifi Khan
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:24 PM, cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +, Saifi Khan wrote: The existing users provide continuity not growth. To be popular FreeBSD needs growth. Growth comes from new users ! The main driving force is to attract good

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Saifi Khan
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Kevin Kinsey k...@daleco.biz wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +, Saifi Khan wrote: The existing users provide continuity not growth. To be popular FreeBSD needs growth. I think that one of FBSD's guiding principles is

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Saifi Khan
Hi Wojciech: You haven't still explained, (as suggested by your kindself ) why the new user must keep buying new network interface cards just to make FreeBSD run (when most of those cards will work fine with Linux). -- thanks Saifi. ___

OT: The official stool for FreeBSD users?

2009-02-22 Thread Charles Oppermann
http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/11/07/i-dont-wanna-grow-up-im-a-big-kid-now/ I'd describe it, but I don't want to spoil the surprise. Enjoy. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Intel video driver appears to be broken

2009-02-22 Thread Arthur Barlow
I have an old Gateway Intel PIII box with all the video, ethernet, and sound running Intel drivers. The video chip according to dmesg is Intel 82810-DC100 GMCH. Dmesg shows the agp0 driver like this: agp0: Intel 82810-DC100 (i810-DC100 GMCH) SVGA controller on vgapci0 X -configure select

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
You haven't still explained, (as suggested by your kindself ) why the new user must keep buying new network interface cards just to make FreeBSD run (when most of those cards will work fine with Linux). because his existing is not supported by FreeBSD - because it's manufacturer don't want it.

Re: questions

2009-02-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
you may try running it in wine, but anyway - if you wish to use windows based software, using windows is a best choice. That is not always true, as I've pointed out in response to one of your use Windows, not FreeBSD emails before. For example, I have seen significantly better framerates for

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
mini-guide for checking out the ports before their removal and building them as local ports. The source for these ports is no longer maintained, and they may pose a security risk if you use them on multi-user machines --- especially if untrusted users have local shell access --- but if you want

make config options find / used same as binary package

2009-02-22 Thread Brent Clark
Hiya Recently someone asked about the showing of the config options from the ports. My questions is, how do we see or find what were the options used when installed from binary (pkg_add -r binaryPackage). Kind Regards Brent Clark ___