Watchdog timer

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Steele
What's the proper way to configure the watchdog timer service so that a system will automatically reboot after five minutes of non-responsiveness? I tried setting watchdog to run with the args -s 10 -t 300, but I've seen systems reboot after only a few seconds of inactivity (such as being hung on

Re: ps says process has been running for 49710 days

2009-05-25 Thread Tim Judd
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Kelly Jones kelly.terry.jo...@gmail.comwrote: I use /bin/ps -www -ax -eo 'pid etime args' to see how long a process has been running. This usually works fine, but I sometimes see things like: 17469 49710-06:28:15 /usr/bin/fly -q -i [...] indicating a

Using rsync for versioned backups without --backup

2009-05-25 Thread Kelly Jones
I want to use rsync to backup a large file (say 1G) that changes a little each day (say 1M), but I also want the ability to re-create older versions of this file. I could use --backup, but that would create a 1G file each day, even though I only really need the 1M that's changed. How do I tell

What do ASCII codes 128-159 stand for?

2009-05-25 Thread Kelly Jones
man ascii defines the ASCII codes from 0-127, and the various ISO-8859-x tables define the ASCII codes from 160-255 (depending on your character set), but are there standard representations for the ASCII codes between 128 and 159 inclusive? -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Scott Bennett
On Sun, 24 May 2009 20:22:37 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote, *again* without attribution: From the glossary (p. 630) of _The_Design_and_Implementation_of_the _FreeBSD_Operating_System_ by McKusick and Neville-Neil: load average A measure of CPU

Re: What do ASCII codes 128-159 stand for?

2009-05-25 Thread Ronny Mandal
Maybe you're looking for this? http://www.petefreitag.com/cheatsheets/ascii-codes/ This one is quite specific, though... http://www.ascii.cl/htmlcodes.htm Regards, Ronny Mandal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: What do ASCII codes 128-159 stand for?

2009-05-25 Thread Lars Eighner
On Sun, 24 May 2009, Kelly Jones wrote: man ascii defines the ASCII codes from 0-127, That is all the ASCII codes there are. ASCII is a a seven-bit standard. and the various ISO-8859-x tables define the ASCII codes from 160-255 No. There is no such thing as ASCII codes from 160-255.

Re: What do ASCII codes 128-159 stand for?

2009-05-25 Thread Michael David Crawford
Lars Eighner wrote: That is all the ASCII codes there are. ASCII is a a seven-bit standard. There is no such thing as ASCII codes from 160-255. ASCII is a 7-bit standard. You cannot express 160 in seven bits. No, because there are no ASCII codes between 128 and 159. ASCII is a 7-bit

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Ivan Voras
Yuri wrote: Look below: load over 7 and no processes take much CPU. Yuri 7.2-PRERELEASE, 32-bit on i7-920. last pid: 93192; load averages: 7.68, 6.27, 4.61

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/24 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:    From the glossary (p. 630) of _The_Design_and_Implementation_of_the _FreeBSD_Operating_System_ by McKusick and Neville-Neil:        load average  A measure of CPU load on the system.  The load average                in FreeBSD is

Re: What do ASCII codes 128-159 stand for?

2009-05-25 Thread Ronny Mandal
Yes, you're right; ASCII is a seven bit code. Only E-ASCII employs the 8th bit to widen the addressing space available, thus it can define more characters in binary. /RM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
first - says that it's measure of CPU load then - or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O - which is NOT measure of CPU load. You are mistaken. I think what you are referring to is the percentage of no i'm not. doing lots of I/O and little CPU load produces high load average.

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
first - says that it's measure of CPU load then - or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O - which is NOT measure of CPU load. Er, what? Of course it is! amount of disk I/O is a measure of CPU load? seems you are true expert ;) ___

Re: What do ASCII codes 128-159 stand for?

2009-05-25 Thread Morgan Wesström
Lars Eighner wrote: That is all the ASCII codes there are. ASCII is a a seven-bit standard. There is no such thing as ASCII codes from 160-255. ASCII is a 7-bit standard. You cannot express 160 in seven bits. No, because there are no ASCII codes between 128 and 159. ASCII is a

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/25 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: first - says that it's measure of CPU load then - or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O - which is NOT measure of CPU load. Er, what? Of course it is! amount of disk I/O is a measure of CPU load? seems you are true

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Boosten
Chris Rees wrote: 2009/5/25 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: first - says that it's measure of CPU load then - or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O - which is NOT measure of CPU load. Er, what? Of course it is! amount of disk I/O is a measure of CPU load? seems

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/25 Peter Boosten pe...@boosten.org: Chris Rees wrote: 2009/5/25 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: first - says that it's measure of CPU load then - or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O - which is NOT measure of CPU load. Er, what? Of course it is! amount

Re: What do ASCII codes 128-159 stand for?

2009-05-25 Thread vehemens
Ever wonder where we would be as a civilization if the additional codes had been used for math symbols and greek letters as used in engineering and science. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

why integer size says 4 bytes on 64 bit processor

2009-05-25 Thread Shakil Khan
Hi All, Pardon me if I am writing this mail to the wrong group as I am too new to BSD and programming stuff. You can redirect me to right group without howling. By seeing some recent conversations(About the top status ;)) in this group it made me nervous to ask for a silly question like this, but

Re: why integer size says 4 bytes on 64 bit processor

2009-05-25 Thread Ivan Voras
Shakil Khan wrote: Hi All, Pardon me if I am writing this mail to the wrong group as I am too new to BSD and programming stuff. You can redirect me to right group without howling. By seeing some recent conversations(About the top status ;)) in this group it made me nervous to ask for a

How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Unga
Dear all This may be slightly OT, but I'm using on a FreeBSD machine. How to convert following into bash style? echo ${X} ${Z} echo ${Y} ${Z} Best regards Unga ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-25 Thread John Dakos [ Enovation Technologies ]
Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail I will appreciate Thanks all John Dakos Network Administrator Enovation Technologies Filellinon 35, Chalandrion 15232 Athens, GREECE Tel: +30-210

Re: why integer size says 4 bytes on 64 bit processor

2009-05-25 Thread Michael Powell
Shakil Khan wrote: Hi All, Pardon me if I am writing this mail to the wrong group as I am too new to BSD and programming stuff. You can redirect me to right group without howling. By seeing some recent conversations(About the top status ;)) in this group it made me nervous to ask for a

Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-25 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail I recommend the following step-by-step instructions: http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4 -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.fairtrade.net.pl

RE: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-25 Thread Johan Hendriks
Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail I will appreciate Thanks all A good combination for webmail is: Postfix as MTA Dovecot as IMAP / POP3 server Postfixadmin for webbased management. Mysql or postgresql for the

Re: why integer size says 4 bytes on 64 bit processor

2009-05-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
Shakil Khan wrote: Pardon me if I am writing this mail to the wrong group as I am too new to BSD and programming stuff. You can redirect me to right group without howling. By seeing some recent conversations(About the top status ;)) in this group it made me nervous to ask for a silly question

Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-25 Thread Odhiambo ワシントン
2009/5/25 Johan Hendriks jo...@double-l.nl Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail I will appreciate Thanks all A good combination for webmail is: Postfix as MTA Dovecot as IMAP / POP3 server Postfixadmin

Re: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
Unga wrote: Dear all This may be slightly OT, but I'm using on a FreeBSD machine. How to convert following into bash style? echo ${X} ${Z} echo ${Y} ${Z} Exactly the same in posix standard /bin/sh or in bash. bash(1) should be capable of running any compliant /bin/sh script directly.

Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-25 Thread larin
John Dakos [ Enovation Technologies ] wrote: Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail I will appreciate Thanks all John Dakos Network Administrator Enovation Technologies Filellinon

installing in a netbook, corrupted kernel on boot with unetbootin

2009-05-25 Thread Leandro Chescotta
Hi! how can i boot the installation with my netbook? i tryed a lot of isos, of 7.2, 7.1, and 6.4 with unetbootin, but when i boot them it says always CORRUPTED KERNEL IMAGE or something like that... Previously i installed arch linux and they have a .img usb ready image, so you only need to dd

upgrade 7 - 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread Pieter Donche
I have to upgrade a few FreeBSD7 machines to FreeBSD7.2 (this is new to me) One machine has very few third party ports installed (33), the other over 600 ... One of the steps is # portupgade -af, to rebuild all third party software.. this took 27 minutes on the 33 packages machine.. So for 20

Re: Problem with LOCK_PROFILING stats in 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread Nikola Knežević
On 05.22.2009, at 14:21 , Nikola Knežević wrote: I'm using LOCK_PROFILING to, well, profile some locks in the module I'm working on. I also have INVARIANTS turned on. Numbers I'm getting look correct, however, name of the lock is strange (for some of the locks I'm using): 25725

Re: upgrade 7 - 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread Odhiambo ワシントン
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Pieter Donche pieter.don...@ua.ac.bewrote: I have to upgrade a few FreeBSD7 machines to FreeBSD7.2 (this is new to me) One machine has very few third party ports installed (33), the other over 600 ... One of the steps is # portupgade -af, to rebuild all third

Re: upgrade 7 - 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread Julien Cigar
You don't have to rebuilt all ports when you upgrade from 7.0 to 7.2, it is, in general, only required when you upgrade for one major version to another one (6.x - 7.x or 7.x to 8.x) On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 14:30 +0200, Pieter Donche wrote: I have to upgrade a few FreeBSD7 machines to FreeBSD7.2

Re: Secure unsalted or fixed salt symmetric encryption?

2009-05-25 Thread RW
On Sun, 24 May 2009 22:57:35 -0700 Kelly Jones kelly.terry.jo...@gmail.com wrote: and was surprised that doing this to identical files yielded different results. I then realized openssl enc randomly(?) chooses a salt if you don't supply one. I want my backups encrypted, but I also want

Re: upgrade 7 - 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread Vasile Cristescu
On Monday 25 May 2009 15:30:27 Pieter Donche wrote: I have to upgrade a few FreeBSD7 machines to FreeBSD7.2 (this is new to me) One machine has very few third party ports installed (33), the other over 600 ... One of the steps is # portupgade -af, to rebuild all third party software.. this

Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-25 Thread Reko Turja
Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail Postfix Cyrus (+possible Postgres if database is needed) Squirrel, IMP... One can build very decent BSD or like licensed mail server, except the webmail part. Every available webmail package I've found are under GPL. -Reko

Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Jos Chrispijn
I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a stream service/server into FreeBDS 7.2?

gdm won't start at 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread Frank Bonnet
Hello I've installed from scratch a i386 7.2 machine , when I try to start gdm the machine display the login screen with other written on it but it is totally hanged , even the mouse. Any info ? Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

FreeBSD Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Howard Jones
Hi, Can anyone with experience of software RAID point me in the right direction please? I've used gmirror before with no trouble, but nothing fancier. I have a set of brand new 1TB drives, a Sil3124 SATA card and a FreeBSD 7.1-p4 system. I created a RAID 5 set with gvinum: drive d0 device

Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Noland
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 20:09 +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: Koichiro IWAO escribió: The integrated video chip Intel GMA 500 is not a original Intel product. So X11 does not work with Intel driver and the driver is still unavailable. VESA is the only available driver. Does anyone have the

Re: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Unga
--- On Mon, 5/25/09, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: From: Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: How to say this in Bash? To: Unga unga...@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 8:10 PM Unga wrote: Dear all

Re: gdm won't start at 7.2

2009-05-25 Thread mct
Frank Bonnet wrote: Hello I've installed from scratch a i386 7.2 machine , when I try to start gdm the machine display the login screen with other written on it but it is totally hanged , even the mouse. Any info ? Thanks ___

Re: FreeBSD Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Mister Olli
Hi, I remember building a RAID5 on gvinum with 3 500GB hard drives some months ago, and it took horribly long to initialize the raid5 (several hours). It seems to be a one-time job, cause since the raid finished it's initialization the machine starts up/ reboots within normal times. The

Re: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 25 May 2009 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Unga unga...@yahoo.com wrote: Here is what happens in bash shell: $ echo ${X} ${Z} bash: ${Z}: ambiguous redirect Perhaps I am misinterpreting your question; however, if I define both ${X} and ${Z} in a script prior to running your snippet, I do not

Re: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Unga
--- On Mon, 5/25/09, Jerry ges...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: How to say this in Bash? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 11:22 PM On Mon, 25 May 2009 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Unga unga...@yahoo.com wrote: Here is what happens in

RE: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Steele
$ echo ${X} ${Z} bash: ${Z}: ambiguous redirect I want to append all variables in X and Y into Z so that echo $Z should be: XX1=YES XX2=YES YY1=YES YY2=YES Redirection is not the right way to do it. Just do this: $ Z=$X $Y $ echo $Z XX1=YES XX2=YES YY1=YES YY2=YES

RE: FreeBSD Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Graeme Dargie
-Original Message- From: Howard Jones [mailto:howard.jo...@network-i.net] Sent: 25 May 2009 14:58 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Software RAID Hi, Can anyone with experience of software RAID point me in the right direction please? I've used gmirror before with no

Re: FreeBSD Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Valentin Bud
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Graeme Dargie a...@tangerine-army.co.ukwrote: -Original Message- From: Howard Jones [mailto:howard.jo...@network-i.net] Sent: 25 May 2009 14:58 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Software RAID Hi, Can anyone with experience of

Re: FreeBSD Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i use gmirror but once i tried gvinum and it doesn't work well. i think simply use mirroring. ZFS will introduce 100 times more problems than it solves ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: FreeBSD Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread David Kelly
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 07:37:59PM +0300, Valentin Bud wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Graeme Dargie a...@tangerine-army.co.ukwrote: Can anyone with experience of software RAID point me in the right direction please? I've used gmirror before with no trouble, but nothing fancier.

Re: FreeBSD Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have looked at ZFS recently. Appears to be a memory hog, needs about 1 GB especially if large file transfers may occur over gigabit ethernet while it CAN be set up on 256MB machine with a little big flags in loader.conf (should be autotuned anyway) - it generally takes as much memory as it's

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Do you ever think before you type? You regularly fill this mailing list with crap please don't name things crap just because you don't understand ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I think Wojciech means '...which is NOT measure of CPU _utilization_' exactly what i said. In that case he's correct: whenever the CPU has to wait a lot for I/O, like network and disk, then the _load_ will go up, while the CPU _utilization_ stays low. and that's inconsistent with

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). ^ Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a stream

Re: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
Unga wrote: --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: Here is what happens in bash shell: $ echo ${X} ${Z} bash: ${Z}: ambiguous redirect So, what's the value of ${Z}? Unless that expands to something that could be a valid file name you'll get an error

Re: How to say this in Bash?

2009-05-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
Unga wrote: --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Jerry ges...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: How to say this in Bash? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 11:22 PM On Mon, 25 May 2009 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Unga unga...@yahoo.com wrote: Here is what happens

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Boosten
On 25 mei 2009, at 19:12, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I think Wojciech means '...which is NOT measure of CPU _utilization_' exactly what i said. Regardless from what you said: you _wrote_ CPU _load_, not cpu _utilization_, which are two completely different thingemies. The load averages

updating from 7.1 to 7.2 AMD64

2009-05-25 Thread Graeme Dargie
Hi All I am trying to update 2 7.1 systems to 7.2. sun3# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.2RELEASE Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.1-RELEASE from update4.freebsd.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done.

RE: FreeBSD Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Graeme Dargie
-Original Message- From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl] Sent: 25 May 2009 18:09 To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Cc: Howard Jones; Graeme Dargie; Valentin Bud Subject: Re: FreeBSD Software RAID I have looked at ZFS recently. Appears to be a memory hog,

Re: FreeBSD Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread David Kelly
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 07:09:15PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I have looked at ZFS recently. Appears to be a memory hog, needs about 1 GB especially if large file transfers may occur over gigabit ethernet while it CAN be set up on 256MB machine with a little big flags in loader.conf

RE: FreeBSD Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Ok granted this is a server sat in my house and it is not a mission critical server in a large business, personally I have can live with ZFS taking a bit longer vs resilience. simply gmirror and UFS gives the same. much simpler, much faster. but of course lots of people like to make their life

Re: FreeBSD Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
It makes a certain degree of sense. Sometimes things have to be done wrong for us to realize how good we had it before. How would we know how great FreeBSD is if we didn't have Linux? I had to look at ZFS to decide not to use it when I rebuild my storage this week due to a failing drive. you

RE: FreeBSD Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Graeme Dargie
-Original Message- From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl] Sent: 25 May 2009 18:54 To: Graeme Dargie Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org; Howard Jones; Valentin Bud Subject: RE: FreeBSD Software RAID Ok granted this is a server sat in my house and it is not a

RE: FreeBSD Software RAID

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
but of course lots of people like to make their life harder No I am not making life harder at all ... I have 6x500gb hard disks I want in a good solid raid 5 type configuration. So you are somewhat wide of the mark in your assumptions. that's a reason. just don't forget that RAID-z is MUCH

Re: Secure unsalted or fixed salt symmetric encryption?

2009-05-25 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:57:35PM -0700, Kelly Jones wrote: Are there any secure openssl symmetric encryption routines that *don't* use a salt? Is it secure to use a random-but-fixed salt (openssl enc -S salt)? man enc says This option [-salt] should ALWAYS be used [...] Reason I ask:

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-25 Thread kristian.tenorio
Nice, go on using Windows, Jerry. I will use my FreeBSD Box. But I'd like to point out that my earlier solution is not that good. I'm going to fix it here, Jerry and I'm sure this'll be interesting for Chandan. Throughout this reply I will give two solutions: an improvement of tpr and

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Regardless from what you said: you _wrote_ CPU _load_, not cpu what's a difference for you between CPU load and CPU utilization? i mean CPU load not system load. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Boosten
On 25 mei 2009, at 21:08, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Regardless from what you said: you _wrote_ CPU _load_, not cpu what's a difference for you between CPU load and CPU utilization? i mean CPU load not system load. The CPU will perform the same, whether at 10% utilization, or at 100%

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The CPU will perform the same, whether at 10% utilization, or at 100% utilization, the system however won't. That's the difference between load and utilization. still don't understand you. CPU will not perform the same at 10% utilization, it will perform 10 times less than at 100%

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Glen Barber
Hi, Jos On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jos Chrispijn j...@webrz.net wrote: I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a

Re: Using rsync for versioned backups without --backup

2009-05-25 Thread Roland Smith
, or xdelta if it is a binary file. But both would require you to keep at least two subsequent versions of the file so a diff can be generated. You'd need to do something like this every day: diff -u foo-yesterday foo diff-20090525 # save the diff somewhere rm foo-yesterday cp foo foo-yesterday

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
make search key=streaming in the ports directory. IMHO, streaming versus downloading is more bandwidth intensive overall. and give NO adventages. anyway - file that is available through FTP/HTTP or similar way you can stream too. just without any extra tools both under windoze and unix.

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Glen Barber
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: The CPU will perform the same, whether at 10% utilization, or at 100% utilization, the system however won't. That's the difference between load and utilization. still don't understand you. CPU will not

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Boosten
On 25 mei 2009, at 21:24, Wojciech Puchar wrote: The CPU will perform the same, whether at 10% utilization, or at 100% utilization, the system however won't. That's the difference between load and utilization. still don't understand you. CPU will not perform the same at 10% utilization,

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Not true. top(1) can fully utilize the CPU. Doing so does not put the system under full load. top uses small percentage of CPU power. if it would use all - it WOULD mean full CPU load. load average is how much processes (by average) is not doing calculations because something is not yet

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The CPU = Central Processing Unit will perform it's calculations at so many megahertz while at 10% utilization or at 100% utilization. The entire machine no. it will not. all today x86 CPUs reacts on HLT command and doesn't do anything except waiting for interrupt (and saving lots of power).

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Boosten
On 25 mei 2009, at 21:37, Wojciech Puchar wrote: The CPU = Central Processing Unit will perform it's calculations at so many megahertz while at 10% utilization or at 100% utilization. The entire machine no. it will not. all today x86 CPUs reacts on HLT command and doesn't do anything

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-25 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 25 May 2009 12:01:49 -0700 (PDT) kristian.tenorio kristian.teno...@gmail.com wrote: Nice, go on using Windows, Jerry. I will use my FreeBSD Box. But I'd like to point out that my earlier solution is not that good. I'm going to fix it here, Jerry and I'm sure this'll be interesting for

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Wojciech Puchar wrote: I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). ^ Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/25 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: you are funny. Don't ever send me private messages like that. You are a troll who gives harmful and misleading advice. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad

Re: Secure unsalted or fixed salt symmetric encryption?

2009-05-25 Thread RW
On Mon, 25 May 2009 21:00:39 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Or you can use the -nosalt option. But as explained in [http://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/enc.html], using a random salt by default is a design decision because: Without the -salt option it is possible to perform

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread cpghost
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 09:30:30PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: make search key=streaming in the ports directory. IMHO, streaming versus downloading is more bandwidth intensive overall. and give NO adventages. anyway - file that is available through FTP/HTTP or similar way you

Re: updating from 7.1 to 7.2 AMD64

2009-05-25 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/5/25 Graeme Dargie a...@tangerine-army.co.uk: Hi All I am trying to update 2 7.1 systems to 7.2. sun3# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.2RELEASE 7.2-RELEASE Maybe? -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

OOo question re my novel...

2009-05-25 Thread Gary Kline
guys, one thing i need to do before i submit my 600+ page tell-all novel is fihure out howto turn *this* into italics in Ooo-3.01. i don't think any regular publisher world rish this so it;s a roll-you-own. what i submit in doc [or odt] is what gets published. i can turn *this* into /this/,

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 25 May 2009 21:42:40 +0200 Peter Boosten pe...@boosten.org wrote: On 25 mei 2009, at 21:37, Wojciech Puchar wrote: The CPU = Central Processing Unit will perform it's calculations at so many megahertz while at 10% utilization or at 100% utilization. The entire machine no.

Re: Secure unsalted or fixed salt symmetric encryption?

2009-05-25 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:06:01PM +0100, RW wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2009 21:00:39 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Or you can use the -nosalt option. But as explained in [http://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/enc.html], using a random salt by default is a design decision because:

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread cpghost
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:06:57PM +0200, cpghost wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 09:30:30PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: make search key=streaming in the ports directory. IMHO, streaming versus downloading is more bandwidth intensive overall. and give NO adventages.

Re: OOo question re my novel...

2009-05-25 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 02:46:07PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: guys, one thing i need to do before i submit my 600+ page tell-all novel is fihure out howto turn *this* into italics in Ooo-3.01. i don't think any regular publisher world rish this so it;s a roll-you-own. what i submit in doc

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Monday 25 May 2009 15:41:04 Jos Chrispijn wrote: I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a stream service/server into

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
^^^ Sorry, mistake: s/file streaming/file download/ when you play file directly from HTTP/FTP source it's streaming too. just much more simple, portable, and cachable by squid/other proxies

Re: Streaming server / YouTube

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
without that youtube nonsense there wouldn't be a youtube anymore it's a copyright agreement not to store the videos on someone's harddrive while watching... you mean videos from youtube are copyrighted? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
anyway - file that is available through FTP/HTTP or similar way you can stream too. just without any extra tools both under windoze and unix. You're aware of UDP-based real-time streaming protocols, right? yes it is, but we talked about youtube-like services. it's not UDP based very well).

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
you are funny. Don't ever send me private messages like that. You are a troll who gives harmful and misleading advice. exactly because of sentences like that i think you are funny. sorry - but you moved this to public ___

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Adam Vande More
/usr/ports/multimedia/vlc Or netcat On 5/25/09, Jos Chrispijn j...@webrz.net wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...).

Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Do you actually read back what you write: you're saying here that when a CPU has only 10% utilization, it'll run slower than when performing at 100%... i said it perform 10 times less work than when 100% utilized. exactly - read back again. I'm giving up ;-) looks like you just want to

Re: OOo question re my novel...

2009-05-25 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 25 May 2009 14:46:07 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: guys, one thing i need to do before i submit my 600+ page tell-all novel is fihure out howto turn *this* into italics in Ooo-3.01. i don't think any regular publisher world rish this so it;s a roll-you-own. what i

Re: Streaming server

2009-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I already have FreeBSD installed. Just wondering if there is a streaming server for it. Hardly can believe that dedicated download (by opening the remote file in a media player) will be more efficient that a streaming server that takes care of bandwidth throttle and average processing time on

Re: Secure unsalted or fixed salt symmetric encryption?

2009-05-25 Thread RW
On Mon, 25 May 2009 23:52:05 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:06:01PM +0100, RW wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2009 21:00:39 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Or you can use the -nosalt option. But as explained in

Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD

2009-05-25 Thread parv
in message 20090524161901.gb3...@current.sisis.de, wrote Matthias Apitz thusly... On Sun, 24 May 2009 15:52:29 +0200, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: I have a real netbook, an EeePC 900 with 20 GByte SSD, Wifi, 1024x600 9 display and an attached USB Huawei E220 dongel for UMTS.

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