Re: Manual Installations on Flash Media

2009-08-04 Thread David Allen
On 8/3/09, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:21:02 -0700, David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com wrote: I need to create a FreeBSD installation on an SSD drive (connected via a USB adaptor), and would like to do so manually so as to avoid the use of an

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread Mel Flynn
On Monday 03 August 2009 18:28:52 Modulok wrote: I wrote a python script which uses /dev/random, and hashes the output with sha256. I then truncate the output to the desired length. Blasphemy! According to the superstitious password crowd my passwords are not very secure ... maybe. They

Re: Weird networking issue

2009-08-04 Thread perryh
Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Joel Dahlj...@vnode.se wrote: [snip description of network flakiness on one server, out of several on the same switch behind the same gateway] Any ideas? :-) I have 2: 1.) Bad NIC 2.) Bad CPU 3. Bad cable from

Re: Weird networking issue

2009-08-04 Thread Joel Dahl
Glen Barber skrev: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Glen Barberglen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: I have 2: 1.) Bad NIC 2.) Bad CPU A while back, I found out I had a bad CPU after replacing everything else on the machine -- I would still receive CRC mismatch errors with portsnap(8). The NIC is

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Stapper
Tim Gustafson wrote: Hi, I was wondering if there was a plan or time line in place to support ZFS boot partitions in the installer. I Googled around a bit and found some how-to documents for setting it up in a hacky kind of way, but the impression I got is that support for ZFS partitions

Re: Manual Installations on Flash Media

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Stapper
Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:21:02 -0700, David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com wrote: I need to create a FreeBSD installation on an SSD drive (connected via a USB adaptor), and would like to do so manually so as to avoid the use of an installation CD, PXE or sysinstall.

Re: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Stapper
PJ wrote: Could somone explain to me why an upgrade from sysinstall would overwrite partitions; especially when the instructions indicate that files will not be overwritten? Dear Phil, Ofcourse if you upgrade, files will be overwritten. Could you please be more specific? Greetz, Mark

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:28:52PM -0600, Modulok wrote: I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing something... It is very easy to generate hard-to-guess semi-random passwords: openssl rand

Re: ftps ?(off-topic)

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Stapper
Neal Hogan wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Mel Flynnmel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Monday 03 August 2009 04:26:32 Neal Hogan wrote: 2009/8/3 Odhiambo ワシントン odhia...@gmail.com: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Frederique Rijsdijk

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 09:52:21AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:28:52PM -0600, Modulok wrote: I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing something... It is very easy to

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread Peter Boosten
Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 09:52:21AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:28:52PM -0600, Modulok wrote: I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing something...

Re: ftps ?(off-topic)

2009-08-04 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:14:39AM +0200, Mark Stapper typed: It would be nice to hear more she-calling on these lists though... So maybe mailing list etiquette should state anyone posting to a mailing list should be referred to as she like we do with boats and institutions like the

Moused crashes with Synaptics

2009-08-04 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi, an Acer notebook with a Synaptics Touchpad makes some trouble here. My primary problem is: I restart the mouse daemon and then I can move the mouse only for a short distance; suddenly the mouse freezes. To analyze the problem I do the following: # /etc/rc.d/moused restart # dd

Re: ftps ?(off-topic)

2009-08-04 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Mark Stapperst...@mapper.nl wrote: Neal Hogan wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Mel Flynnmel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Monday 03 August 2009 04:26:32 Neal Hogan wrote: 2009/8/3 Odhiambo ワシントン odhia...@gmail.com: On Mon, Aug

Re: ftps ?(off-topic)

2009-08-04 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:06:47 -0500 Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: New mailing list etiquette: Everyone should include his/her gender when posting. OK, then lets also include ethnic background, political affiliation, religious affiliation along with a cornucopia of other irrelevant

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-04 Thread chris scott
My zfs only system works fine but it based on 8-beta2 built around 16 May( will be rebuilding soon) The main thing to remember to do it make sure your have zfs_loader_support=yes in your src of make.conf I based my install on this howto

Re: ftps ?(off-topic)

2009-08-04 Thread Robert Huff
Jerry wrote: On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:06:47 -0500 Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: New mailing list etiquette: Everyone should include his/her gender when posting. OK, then lets also include ethnic background, political affiliation, religious affiliation along with a cornucopia of other

kernel panics in 7.2-RELEASE

2009-08-04 Thread Joey Mingrone
Hi, I have 7.2-RELEASE running on two older laptops and both have had a few kernel panics lately. Unfortunately the one that paniced today doesn't have debugging symbols, so I'm sure how useful any of output below will be. Joey % dmesg . . . Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread Modulok
Good call on the hashing, reducing the quality of the passwords, Kurt. The hash generated passwords are for online accounts, as auto-generated initial passwords and such. But I'm also looking for a good way to generate high quality crypto keys. In the later case, the data being protected are disk

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread RW
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:20:50 -0800 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Monday 03 August 2009 18:28:52 Modulok wrote: I wrote a python script which uses /dev/random, and hashes the output with sha256. I then truncate the output to the desired length.

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread Modulok
As I understand it I would have to double the length of a hashed password for it to be as secure as an un-hashed one, as each pair of characters represent one byte. Aye? -Modulok- On 8/4/09, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:20:50 -0800 Mel Flynn

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread RW
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:28:52 -0600 Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote: However, wouldn't hashing bytes from /dev/random be quite secure? The hash function would cover any readily apparent patterns, if they were found to existed. That's fine, the only issue is that hex digits lead to long

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread RW
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:42:22 -0600 Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote: As I understand it I would have to double the length of a hashed password for it to be as secure as an un-hashed one, as each pair of characters represent one byte. Aye? I wouldn't put it quite like that, it's the hexadecimal

cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread David Southwell
I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: _7_BP _7_2_BP _7_2_0_RELEASE _7_2 But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! # uname -a 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24 00:14:35 UTC

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread Michael Powell
David Southwell wrote: I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: _7_BP _7_2_BP _7_2_0_RELEASE _7_2 But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! # uname -a 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD

Re: Weird networking issue

2009-08-04 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:56 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Joel Dahlj...@vnode.se wrote: [snip description of network flakiness on one server, out of several on the same switch behind the same gateway] Any

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread David Southwell
David Southwell wrote: I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: _7_BP _7_2_BP _7_2_0_RELEASE _7_2 But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! # uname -a 7.2-RELEASE-p2

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwellda...@vizion2000.net wrote: I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: _7_BP _7_2_BP BP ? _7_2_0_RELEASE Should be RELENG. Don't blindly follow how-tos. _7_2 But

Re: Moused crashes with Synaptics

2009-08-04 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi, Am Dienstag, 04. Aug 2009, 13:26:24 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: Hi, an Acer notebook with a Synaptics Touchpad makes some trouble here. My primary problem is: I restart the mouse daemon and then I can move the mouse only for a short distance; suddenly the mouse freezes. To

not dead [yet].

2009-08-04 Thread Gary Kline
Until late Sunday night I was here at keyboard/computer virtually 24/7 working on thesis. So was my advisor, but then that's his *job*. Anyway, now it's wait and see. Meanwhile: how do I get rid of a truckload of old binaries that I rarely/never use?

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread b. f.
Glen Barber glen.j.barber at gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwelldavid at vizion2000.net wrote: I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: _7_BP _7_2_BP BP ? It is the branchpoint tag, made

Re: not dead [yet].

2009-08-04 Thread Glen Barber
Hi, Gary On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Gary Klinekl...@thought.org wrote:        Until late Sunday night I was here at keyboard/computer virtually        24/7 working on thesis.  So was my advisor, but then that's his        *job*.  Anyway, now it's wait and see. Such is academia. :-)  

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:54 PM, b. f.bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: Glen Barber glen.j.barber at gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwelldavid at vizion2000.net wrote: I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. I took a look at the web pages and found the

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 03:07:20PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwellda...@vizion2000.net wrote: I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: _7_BP _7_2_BP BP ? BP = Branch

Re: ftps ?(off-topic)

2009-08-04 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 04 August 2009 00:14:39 Mark Stapper wrote: It would be nice to hear more she-calling on these lists though... So maybe mailing list etiquette should state anyone posting to a mailing list should be referred to as she like we do with boats and institutions like the court...

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-04 Thread Jason Garrett
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:48, Tim Gustafson t...@soe.ucsc.edu wrote: Hi, I was wondering if there was a plan or time line in place to support ZFS boot partitions in the installer. I Googled around a bit and found some how-to documents for setting it up in a hacky kind of way, but the

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 04 August 2009 12:52:54 Erik Trulsson wrote: On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 03:07:20PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwellda...@vizion2000.net wrote: I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. I took a look at the web pages and found

Re: not dead [yet].

2009-08-04 Thread RW
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:32:54 -0400 Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote:        Meanwhile: how do I get rid of a truckload of old binaries that I rarely/never use?  Most show a list of dependencies that's about 70 lines long, and I don't want to break things.

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread b. f.
On 8/4/09, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: _7_2_0_RELEASE Should be RELENG. Don't blindly follow how-tos. RELENG_7_2_0_RELEASE is a valid tag. Don't make pronouncements if you haven't verified them. He has _7_2_0_RELEASE, not RELENG_7_0_2_RELEASE. Well, neither actually.

Re: not dead [yet].

2009-08-04 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:16:56PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Until late Sunday night I was here at keyboard/computer virtually 24/7 working on thesis. So was my advisor, but then that's his *job*. Anyway, now it's wait and see. Good luck! Meanwhile: how do I get

[Solved] Re: Weird networking issue

2009-08-04 Thread Joel Dahl
Adam Vande More skrev: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:56 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Joel Dahlj...@vnode.se wrote: [snip description of network flakiness on one server, out of several on the same switch behind the

Re: cvs tag usage

2009-08-04 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:32 PM, b. f.bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: He has _7_2_0_RELEASE, not RELENG_7_0_2_RELEASE. Well, neither actually.  :)   s/0_2/2_0/  .  But I inferred from the context  -- it seemed obvious, particularly from what he wrote later -- that he meant those choices as

Re: [Solved] Re: Weird networking issue

2009-08-04 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Joel Dahlj...@vnode.se wrote: And now everything seems to be working.  I've been doing some tests for a few hours, but I can't get the machine to crap out again.  Looking good so far... :-) Good to hear. :-) -- Glen Barber

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-04 Thread RW
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:34:27 -0400 Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote: Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote: I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing something... You could just use apg ...

Re: not dead [yet].

2009-08-04 Thread b. f.
Roland Smith rsmith at xs4all.nl wrote: What you can do is make a list of all installed ports with ports-mgmt/portmaster: portmaster -L ports.list Looking through this list, you'll see four categories; - Root ports (No dependencies, not depended on) - Trunk ports (No dependencies, are depended

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-04 Thread Tim Gustafson
I wouldn't recommend using zfs at all right now, unless you want random crashes and lots of missing data.. ESPECIALLY in 8.0,1,2 versions. I'm using 7.2 at the moment with a standard UFS2 boot partition and a 500GB ZFS pool. My ZFS pool actually seems pretty stable. I did a make -j 16

find question

2009-08-04 Thread Jay Hall
I am sure this is something I am doing that is obviously wrong, but I cannot figure it out. I am reading a list of directories from a file, and then listing all of the files in the directory to a file. Here is the code. #!/usr/local/bin/bash cat ${FILELIST} | while read LINE

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 04 August 2009 17:06:56 Jay Hall wrote: I am sure this is something I am doing that is obviously wrong, but I cannot figure it out. I am reading a list of directories from a file, and then listing all of the files in the directory to a file. Here is the code.

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Gary Gatten
What is -type supposed to do? I've never used it before, never needed it. - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tue Aug 04 20:06:56 2009 Subject: find

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Gary Gattenggat...@waddell.com wrote: What is -type supposed to do? I've never used it before, never needed it. Gary, -type allows different types of files to be located -- 'f' - regular file, 'd' - directory, 'l' - link, etc. Have a look at find(1) for more

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Jay Hall
What is -type supposed to do? I've never used it before, never needed it. Type is used to specify the type of file to be found. f is a regular file. Jay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Gary Gatten
Ah yes, I do remember now. Plus, for once the syntax is almost self explanatory. So, did the OPs question get answered? From: Jay Hall To: Gary Gatten Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tue Aug 04 20:41:22 2009 Subject: Re: find question What

Re: Moused crashes with Synaptics

2009-08-04 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi, Am Dienstag, 04. Aug 2009, 21:28:37 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: Am Dienstag, 04. Aug 2009, 13:26:24 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: Hi, an Acer notebook with a Synaptics Touchpad makes some trouble here. My primary problem is: I restart the mouse daemon and then I can move the

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Jay Hall
Ah yes, I do remember now. Plus, for once the syntax is almost self explanatory. So, did the OPs question get answered? I think I just found the problem. I am testing now. There was a blank line at the end of the file. ___

Re: Moused crashes with Synaptics

2009-08-04 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 04 August 2009 03:26:24 Bertram Scharpf wrote: Further I seem to have missed something else. I found the page http://wiki.freebsd.org/SynapticsTouchpad where are mentioned some sysctls: hw.psm.synaptics_support=1 hw.psm.synaptics.vscroll_hor_area=1300 I don't have those

Re: find question

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Bristow
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 08:49:17PM -0500, Gary Gatten wrote: Ah yes, I do remember now. Plus, for once the syntax is almost self explanatory. So, did the OPs question get answered? Yes. But to be clear, one of the lines in the input file is blank, which means that find is run as find -type