9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread R Skinner
I bit the bullet and installed the rc3, after spending half the day fighting to get atheros 9285 working on a new laptop. I have to do another as well, so... After recovering myself from the shock of the new bsdinstall (not bad. A little confusing after using sysinstall for so long), I

Re: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread Frank Shute
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 07:51:50PM +1000, R Skinner wrote: I bit the bullet and installed the rc3, after spending half the day fighting to get atheros 9285 working on a new laptop. I have to do another as well, so... After recovering myself from the shock of the new bsdinstall (not bad. A

Re: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread RW
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:40:53 + Frank Shute wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 07:51:50PM +1000, R Skinner wrote: possibly could, but it escaped me as to how. And before I do- I looked up journaling on 9. I couldn't quite get to the bottom of whether it is or isn't available/standard, or

Re: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/AMD64 (CLANG): lang/gcc46 fails to build

2011-12-10 Thread O. Hartmann
On 12/07/11 07:11, Steve Kargl wrote: On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 05:56:31AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: config.status: creating ada/Makefile config.status: creating auto-host.h config.status: executing default commands gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc46/work/build' gmake[1]: ***

Re: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread Da Rock
On 12/10/11 22:20, RW wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:40:53 + Frank Shute wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 07:51:50PM +1000, R Skinner wrote: possibly could, but it escaped me as to how. And before I do- I looked up journaling on 9. I couldn't quite get to the bottom of whether it is or isn't

Re: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread Arto Pekkanen
On 10.12.2011 15:44, Da Rock wrote: So how does soft-update journaling compare to gjournal? I'm using gjournal now and it runs a bit of a dog, but it is reliable (until another ufs filesystem turns up at boot) and necessary in my environment. Can I dump it for this new one? Its used on a

Re: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread Warren Block
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011, R Skinner wrote: So I went to the handbook. I'm still a little confused though: can one still setup the usr and var (and so forth)? It said you possibly could, but it escaped me as to how. Use the bsdinstall partition editor to manually create the partitions. I

Re: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread Manolis Kiagias
On 10/12/2011 5:19 μμ, Warren Block wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011, R Skinner wrote: So I went to the handbook. I'm still a little confused though: can one still setup the usr and var (and so forth)? It said you possibly could, but it escaped me as to how. Use the bsdinstall partition editor to

Re: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread Da Rock
On 12/11/11 02:09, Manolis Kiagias wrote: On 10/12/2011 5:19 μμ, Warren Block wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011, R Skinner wrote: So I went to the handbook. I'm still a little confused though: can one still setup the usr and var (and so forth)? It said you possibly could, but it escaped me as to

Re: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread Manolis Kiagias
On 10/12/2011 11:41 μμ, Da Rock wrote: On 12/11/11 02:09, Manolis Kiagias wrote: On 10/12/2011 5:19 μμ, Warren Block wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011, R Skinner wrote: So I went to the handbook. I'm still a little confused though: can one still setup the usr and var (and so forth)? It said you

Re: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread Da Rock
On 12/11/11 08:02, Manolis Kiagias wrote: On 10/12/2011 11:41 μμ, Da Rock wrote: On 12/11/11 02:09, Manolis Kiagias wrote: On 10/12/2011 5:19 μμ, Warren Block wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011, R Skinner wrote: So I went to the handbook. I'm still a little confused though: can one still setup the

Re: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: GPT is cool - no problems there. The main thing I want to know is if I need to run fsck every time the system dies unexpectedly (which is a higher occurrence on a laptop)? GJournal helps in that it takes care of that. The growing size of drives is another

Re: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread Da Rock
On 12/11/11 08:14, Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote: GPT is cool - no problems there. The main thing I want to know is if I need to run fsck every time the system dies unexpectedly (which is a higher occurrence on a laptop)? GJournal helps in that it takes care of that.

RE: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread Robison, Dave
True. But as a new user it was the separate partitions that attracted me, having been burned with linux's megaroot. And a new user would have trouble setting up the partitions. Not to mention the break with tradition (what is happening to this world)! :) I prefer having separate partitions

Re: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread RW
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:17:41 +1000 Da Rock wrote: SUJ speeds up the check a lot, seconds as opposed to minutes. If something happens to the journal, it falls back to a standard fsck. But fsck needs to be run manually- I have users that can't do that, and the filesystem corrupts. Ergo

Re: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/AMD64 (CLANG): lang/gcc46 fails to build

2011-12-10 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
[-questions to bcc] On Sat, 10 Dec 2011, O. Hartmann wrote: On 12/07/11 07:11, Steve Kargl wrote: On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 05:56:31AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: config.status: creating ada/Makefile config.status: creating auto-host.h config.status: executing default commands gmake[2]: Leaving

Printer issue on FreeBSD

2011-12-10 Thread Al Plant
Aloha Gurus... I had a a print server power supply burn out and took the HD and motherboard board with it. The box I replaced it with took the install of Manolis 8.0 Release DVD ok for the base and I used portsnap to bring apfilter on board. Thats all there is on it. /etc hosts lists all

Re: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread Da Rock
On 12/11/11 10:23, RW wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:17:41 +1000 Da Rock wrote: SUJ speeds up the check a lot, seconds as opposed to minutes. If something happens to the journal, it falls back to a standard fsck. But fsck needs to be run manually- I have users that can't do that, and the

Installation difficulties

2011-12-10 Thread Jeffry Killen
Hello; I am not new to FreeBSD, but it has been a while since I worked with it. The last version I obtained from FreeBSD Mall is 7.2. The jewel case is marked with a date of May 2009, so it is a little behind. But I expected it to boot the i386 version installer, which it did on an Intel 64 bit