Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote: FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer version. 8.2 came out over a year ago, many many things have

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Powell
Mark Felder wrote: Alright guys, I'm at the end of my rope here. For those that haven't seen my previous emails here's the (not so) quick breakdown: Overview: FreeBSD ?? - 7.4 never crash FreeBSD 8.0 - 8.2 crashes FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested (Sorry, not possible in our

Re: need info builing ports properly

2012-03-29 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Mark Felder wrote: My second suggestion is to please never ever ever mess with CFLAGS on FreeBSD. You can get away with it on some Linux distros, but FreeBSD strongly discourages it. Not true. eg I've set various CFLAGS for years. What FreeBSD requires is if one sets either CFLAGS or

How to suppress PAM/sshd root login warnings?

2012-03-29 Thread Duckbreath
My system has root login via sshd disabled, and it is going to stay disabled. I don't care if the whole of the entire internet tries to login as root, because: Root login is disabled. However, syslog likes to print little warnings on my console, and in my auth.log, everytime some bot tries. I

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:31:38 -0500, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: * have you filed a PR? No * is the crash easily reproducable? Unfortunately not. It's totally random. Some servers will get the bug and crash daily, some will crash weekly, some might seem to be fine but 3

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 02:36:49 -0500, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer version. 8.2 came out over a year ago, many many things have changed since

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
Thank you for the suggestion. We'll put it in our toolbox and see if it helps! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
Alright, new data. It happened to crash about 10 minutes after I came in this morning and I ran some stuff in the DDB. I have no idea what information is useful, but perhaps someone will see something out of the ordinary? http://feld.me/freebsd/esx_crash/ Thanks...

Re: Vivaldi Tablet

2012-03-29 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:24:51 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: i dont have a clue what a chording keybd is; This kind of keyboard uses key combination of its FEWER keys to generate characters (or even syllables or words). The name chorded is used synonymously with instruments like the guitar where

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
Hi, * have you filed a PR? * is the crash easily reproducable? * are you able to boot some ramdisk-only FreeBSD-8.2 images (eg create a ramdisk image using nanobsd?) and do some stress testing inside that? It sounds like you've established it's a storage issue, or at least interrupt

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Thursday 29 March 2012 15:42:42 Joe Greco wrote: Hi, Do both 32- and 64-bit versions of FreeBSD crash? --HPS ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote: FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer version. 8.2 came out over a year ago, many many things have

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:58:16 -0500, Hans Petter Selasky hsela...@c2i.net wrote: Do both 32- and 64-bit versions of FreeBSD crash? Correct, we see both i386 and amd64 flavors crash in the same way. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Eduardo Morras
At 16:03 29/03/2012, you wrote: Alright, new data. It happened to crash about 10 minutes after I came in this morning and I ran some stuff in the DDB. I have no idea what information is useful, but perhaps someone will see something out of the ordinary? http://feld.me/freebsd/esx_crash/

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
On Thursday 29 March 2012 15:42:42 Joe Greco wrote: Hi, Do both 32- and 64-bit versions of FreeBSD crash? We've only seen it happen on one virtual machine. That was a 32-bit version. And it's not so much a crash as it is a disk I/O hang. The fact that it was happening regularly to that

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Thursday 29 March 2012 17:49:30 Joe Greco wrote: On Thursday 29 March 2012 15:42:42 Joe Greco wrote: Hi, Do both 32- and 64-bit versions of FreeBSD crash? We've only seen it happen on one virtual machine. That was a 32-bit version. And it's not so much a crash as it is a disk

FreeBSD Stable Image

2012-03-29 Thread Mike Barnard
Hi, Any one know where I can get a FreeBSD-9.0-STABLE ISO/IMG image? ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/ That path does not seem to have it. -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time.

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:31:24 -0500, Eduardo Morras nec...@retena.com wrote: Don't know about ESXi but on others VM Managers i can change the chipset emulation from ICH10 to ICH4. Can you change it to an older chipset too? Unfortunately there's no setting in the GUI for that but I'll keep

Re: FreeBSD Stable Image

2012-03-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 29/03/2012 17:10, Mike Barnard wrote: Hi, Any one know where I can get a FreeBSD-9.0-STABLE ISO/IMG image? ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/ That path does not seem to have it. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/ Cheers,

Re: FreeBSD Stable Image

2012-03-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/ Errr... except of course that is -RELEASE and you asked for -STABLE. I don't believe there's a 9.0-STABLE snapshot available at freebsd.org right now. Instead, try one from here: ftp://ftp.allbsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-snapshots/amd64-amd64/9.0-RELENG_9-20120329-JPSNAP/ There's a new

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:55:36 -0500, Hans Petter Selasky hsela...@c2i.net wrote: It almost sounds like the lost interrupt issue I've seen with USB EHCI devices, though disk I/O should have a retry timeout? What does wmstat -i output? --HPS Here's a server that has a week uptime and is due

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:49:30 -0500, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote: I explained it at the time to one of my VMware friends: This is 100% identical to what we see, Joe! And we're so unlucky that we have this happen on probably a dozen servers, but a handful are the really bad ones.

Per-file, per-process disk access statistics

2012-03-29 Thread Vitaly Magerya
Hi, folks. I want to diagnose which programs trigger disk writes, so I'm wondering if there's a way to determine which processes write to which files on what disks with what speed? I know there are gstat(8) and iostat(8) which show how busy each disk is, but they do not show which files are being

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Jim Bryant
This sounds just like a race condition that happens under Windows 7 on this laptop. The race condition, as far as I can tell involves heavy disk access and heavy network access, and usually leaves the drive light on, while all activity monitors (alldisk, allcpu, allnetwork) are still active,

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:55:36 -0500, Hans Petter Selasky hsela...@c2i.net wrote: It almost sounds like the lost interrupt issue I've seen with USB EHCI devices, though disk I/O should have a retry timeout? What does wmstat

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Atkinson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/2012 07:03, Mark Felder wrote: Alright, new data. It happened to crash about 10 minutes after I came in this morning and I ran some stuff in the DDB. I have no idea what information is useful, but perhaps someone will see something out of

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:43:45 -0500 Jim Bryant articulated: Mark Felder wrote: Alright guys, I'm at the end of my rope here. For those that haven't seen my previous emails here's the (not so) quick breakdown: Overview: FreeBSD ?? - 7.4 never crash FreeBSD 8.0 - 8.2 crashes FreeBSD

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:05:30 -0500, Mark Atkinson atkin...@gmail.com wrote: If this is an interrupt problem with disk i/o, then you might want to look into (DDB(4)) show intr show intrcount maybe show allrman Thank you! I really don't know what things we should be running in DDB to

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:24:30 -0500, je...@seibercom.net wrote: I just started reading this tread, but I am wondering if I missed something here. What does this have to do with Windows 7? I emailed him off-list but I'm guessing he thought this was on VMWare Workstation or another product

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:53:02 -0500, Alan Cox alan.l@gmail.com wrote: Not so long ago, VMware implemented a clever scheme for reducing the overhead of virtualized interrupts that must be delivered by at least some (if not all) of their emulated storage controllers:

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
On Thursday 29 March 2012 17:49:30 Joe Greco wrote: On Thursday 29 March 2012 15:42:42 Joe Greco wrote: Hi, Do both 32- and 64-bit versions of FreeBSD crash? We've only seen it happen on one virtual machine. That was a 32-bit version. And it's not so much a crash as it is

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote: If we assume mpt is the culprit Doesn't VMWare offer different types of emulated disk controllers? If so, that might be the easiest way to narrow the field. Another thing maybe to try would be to backport the mpt Also, it's

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:53:52 -0500, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't VMWare offer different types of emulated disk controllers? If so, that might be the easiest way to narrow the field. Another thing maybe to try would be to backport the mpt Yes, they offer

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/29/2012 7:01 AM, Joe Greco wrote: On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote: FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically it's not likely that you'll get a helpful result without testing a newer version. 8.2 came out

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
And then there is this one with similar symptoms and a workaround: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D27899 I'm now investigating those loader.conf options. I have my crashy machine set to use them on next boot so we'll see if it crashes now that I'm using LSI SAS emulated

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:27:31 -0500, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote: It also doesn't explain the experience here, where one VM basically crapped out but only after a migration - and then stayed crapped out. It would be interesting to hear about your datastore, how busy it is, what technology,

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Jerome Herman
On 28/03/2012 22:59, Mark Felder wrote: Alright guys, I'm at the end of my rope here. For those that haven't seen my previous emails here's the (not so) quick breakdown: Overview: FreeBSD ?? - 7.4 never crash FreeBSD 8.0 - 8.2 crashes FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested (Sorry, not

Off-Topic: Computing for the Blind

2012-03-29 Thread Barbara La Scala
Many thanks to everyone who contacted me, either directly or through the list. I now have plenty of places and ideas to check out to help get my stepfather online. At the moment, I'm leaning towards getting him a Mac (since it has a real operating system under the hood) and a suite of

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Adrian Chadd
Again, it's starting to sound like an interrupt handling issue which may or may not be limited to the storage device. You'll have to engage someone who knows those device drivers and likely have them add some debugging to the driver which can be easily flipped on (via binaries in a ramdisk - very