Re: FreeBSD losing market share?

2012-04-09 Thread Polytropon
Tony, I'm always fascinated how people consider market share the purpose of everyone and everything. FreeBSD is not a profit-oriented company (it's not even a company in this regards), and you can hardly _measure_ its market share. Hell, you can't even measure its _usage share_! Unlike

Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity

2012-04-09 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 10:16:49AM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On Apr 8, 2012, at 5:40 AM, Tony wrote: http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/ It's like a punch-line almost. I admit to enjoying the Helvetica Trailer video linked-to above. I even admit to liking the proposed motto's. But I

Re: FreeBSD losing market share?

2012-04-09 Thread Da Rock
On 04/09/12 16:01, Polytropon wrote: Tony, I'm always fascinated how people consider market share the purpose of everyone and everything. FreeBSD is not a profit-oriented company (it's not even a company in this regards), and you can hardly _measure_ its market share. Hell, you can't even

Re: Token Ring (really)

2012-04-09 Thread perryh
Jay West jw...@ezwind.net wrote: this is for a historical re-creation project ... I guess I'll have to see how tough it would be to yank the TR code from 7x and get it running under 9x. Might it not be both more historically accurate, and a great deal easier, to just use the version of

Re: how often to update ports?

2012-04-09 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: How often do you folks update your ports/packages. I was manging two servers for years for my personal web/email, and I've rarely gone for more than 3 months with any single package being not up to date, usually about once a month I would update all my ports.

Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity

2012-04-09 Thread Fabian Keil
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:40:12 +0200, Tony wrote: As much as I love FreeBSD, I'm a bit alarmed by its webdesign / corporate identity. What's wrong with it? It's very accessible (especially for blind users) and it presents the availabe information in a

Re: problem with Xorg

2012-04-09 Thread Xavier
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:38:45PM +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hi Bernt, Hello list. When I try to start X I'm getting this error X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 Current Operating System:

Re: problem with Xorg

2012-04-09 Thread Da Rock
On 04/09/12 20:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list. When I try to start X I'm getting this error Yep. This one will be fun... :) X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD

Re: Token Ring (really)

2012-04-09 Thread Robert Huff
per...@pluto.rain.com writes: Might it not be both more historically accurate, and a great deal easier, to just use the version of FreeBSD that corresponds to the historical era being re-created? And skip feature, performance, and security improvements made since?

Re: problem with Xorg

2012-04-09 Thread Da Rock
On 04/09/12 21:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-04-09 13:03, Da Rock skrev: On 04/09/12 20:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list. When I try to start X I'm getting this error Yep. This one will be fun... :) X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build

RE: Token Ring (really- and why)

2012-04-09 Thread Jay West
It was written --- Might it not be both more historically accurate, and a great deal easier, to just use the version of FreeBSD that corresponds to the historical era being re-created? And skip feature, performance, and security improvements made since?

Re: Token Ring (really- and why)

2012-04-09 Thread Da Rock
On 04/09/12 23:42, Jay West wrote: It was written --- Might it not be both more historically accurate, and a great deal easier, to just use the version of FreeBSD that corresponds to the historical era being re-created? And skip feature, performance, and security

Re: problem with Xorg

2012-04-09 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Da Rock wrote: On 04/09/12 21:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: 4. What does Xorg -configure produce? No idea, haven't tried it. Using HAL. Given your previous answers, I'd say you _have_ to run it. Then the last option I offered _will_ work. You need to force it to use vesa

Re: problem with Xorg

2012-04-09 Thread Da Rock
On 04/10/12 00:36, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Da Rock wrote: On 04/09/12 21:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: 4. What does Xorg -configure produce? No idea, haven't tried it. Using HAL. Given your previous answers, I'd say you _have_ to run it. Then the last option I offered _will_

Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity

2012-04-09 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 02:40:12PM +0200, Tony wrote: Hello! As much as I love FreeBSD, I'm a bit alarmed by its webdesign / corporate identity. Since FreeBSD is the world's best OS, I believe it should have a design that reflects this. A design that is so neutral and stripped of any

9.0 - Mount to root.. Sorted..

2012-04-09 Thread Airosoβicz fb .
Hi all, As Warren Block mentioned: If there are no ada devices in /dev at all, I'd guess too much has been removed from the custom kernel. So I've checked my custom kernel config (based on GENERIC) indeed made some changes to the [S]ATA disk section after which I rebuilt installed the

Re: 9.0 - Mount to root.. Sorted..

2012-04-09 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 18:51, Airosoβicz fb. airosov...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As Warren Block mentioned: If there are no ada devices in /dev at all, I'd guess too much has been removed from the custom kernel. So I've checked my custom kernel config (based on GENERIC) indeed made

zpool creation on geli failed with FreeBSD-9.0

2012-04-09 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
I was trying to install FreeBSD 9.0 using a geli encrypted disk and ZFS on my ThinkPad R500 this weekend. I failed. Having sucessfully initialized the geli part and having attached the provider, my attempt to create a zpool on the geli section thus $ zpool create ntank /dev/ada0p2.eli failed

Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity

2012-04-09 Thread Tony
Hi all! Thanks everyone for all the feedback - it has been most helpful! Just to clarify, Siegel+Gale and the UK Design Council are just the places where I work. I should have taken them out of my signature to avoid confusion, my bad. I will start work on a major

Re: keyboard latency from time to time

2012-04-09 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, July 25, 2011 a las 05:10:47PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: Hello, I run a 9-CURRENT from end of October on an Acer D250 laptop; which in general runs very fine; from time to time (say once a month) I encounter the following situation within KDE3 or X11: from a moment

cups slow when printing from firefox

2012-04-09 Thread markus . hoenicka
Hi all, I'm struggling with a speed issue when trying to print stuff from firefox (10.0.2,1). I've set up cups (meta package 1.5.2) on my box which uses a Lexmark E360dn printer via ethernet. The printer has a postscript emulation which is set as the default (as opposed to PCL). I've used a PPD

Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity

2012-04-09 Thread Mark Felder
On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:55:07 -0500, Tony ableton...@gmail.com wrote: I will start work on a major Rails-based redesign I'm praying this is a troll. Ruby as a language is so broken, and anyone who has tried to host a Ruby project knows my pain. The only thing you could have said that would

Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity

2012-04-09 Thread Lars Eighner
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012, Tony wrote: Satanic 3D-lookalike logo Satanic logo complaints: Hallmark of retarded trolls -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3

2012-04-09 Thread Коньков Евгений
Hi. Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, CANNOT RUN FAST FSCK Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: CANNOT SET FS_NEEDSFSCK FLAG Apr 9 20:09:22

Re: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3

2012-04-09 Thread Paul A. Procacci
Nothing logged in /var/log/* or crashes that exist in /var/crash would indicate to me some sort of hardware related problem. Have you tested your hardware lately and know that it is in operational order? ~Paul On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 09:36:54PM +0300, ??? ??? wrote: Hi. Apr 9

Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity

2012-04-09 Thread Robert Bonomi
Tony ableton...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! Thanks everyone for all the feedback - it has been most helpful! Just to clarify, Siegel+Gale and the UK Design Council are just the places where I work. I should have taken them out of my signature to avoid confusion, my bad. I will start work

Re[2]: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3

2012-04-09 Thread Коньков Евгений
Yes, I have tested. and on this hardware on this OS it works from Fri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 but last two days: reboot ~ Mon Apr 9 19:50 reboot ~ Mon Apr 9 18:30 reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 20:55

Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity

2012-04-09 Thread Polytropon
Allow me a few additions: On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 13:58:43 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi wrote: 2) Make sure *every* 'img ' tag has a meaningful alt=' field. (if it is just a filler/spacer image, _still_ put an 'alt= ' field on it. This explicitly declares that the image has 'no

Re: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3

2012-04-09 Thread Eugene Grosbein
10.04.2012 01:36, Коньков Евгений пишет: Hi. Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, CANNOT RUN FAST FSCK Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e:

Re: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3

2012-04-09 Thread Da Rock
On 04/10/12 05:02, Коньков Евгений wrote: Yes, I have tested. and on this hardware on this OS it works from Fri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 but last two days: reboot ~ Mon Apr 9 19:50 reboot ~ Mon Apr 9 18:30 reboot ~

Re: zpool creation on geli failed with FreeBSD-9.0

2012-04-09 Thread Da Rock
On 04/10/12 02:07, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: I was trying to install FreeBSD 9.0 using a geli encrypted disk and ZFS on my ThinkPad R500 this weekend. I failed. Having sucessfully initialized the geli part and having attached the provider, my attempt to create a zpool on the geli section thus

Difficulties accessing optical drive from guest OS in VBox

2012-04-09 Thread Scott Ballantyne
Hi, Not sure if this should be here orin freebsd-emulation, but thought it worth a try: Freebsd 9.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) VBoxMange --version: 4.1.10_OSEr76795 Installed from Ports. Window 7 as guest. I can't access the host optical drive from the guest OS. I was able to install it by dd'ing the

Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny?

2012-04-09 Thread Jorge Biquez
Hello all. I am sorry if this is kind OFF Topic. I am looking for help from more experienced people in these areas. Please let me know if this question should be moved to FREEBSD-CHAT list. As I have mentioned before I am helping a school , non profit with their IT issues. As always there

Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny?

2012-04-09 Thread Mark Felder
I've been in this position before. Transparent proxy running Squid and Dansguardian will solve most of your problems. And having a local cache will help fix your low bandwidth issue. Your skill level and networking knowledge will determine how achievable this is, but it's a great solution

Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny?

2012-04-09 Thread Robert Huff
Jorge Biquez writes: Any comments you have that could help me to solve this challenge? Yes. You do not have a technical problem. You have a management problem. Fix that, and the technical issues will be (comparatively) trivial.

Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny?

2012-04-09 Thread Jorge Biquez
Hello. Yes I know and we ill do our best to solve it... but if that does not work, then I still will try to solve it technically in some way if possible. Jorge Biquez At 10:42 p.m. 09/04/2012, Robert Huff wrote: Jorge Biquez writes: Any comments you have that could help me to solve this

Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny?

2012-04-09 Thread Da Rock
On 04/10/12 13:46, Jorge Biquez wrote: Hello. Yes I know and we ill do our best to solve it... but if that does not work, then I still will try to solve it technically in some way if possible. For the interim (and as a POC), setup squid and dans guardian and point the browsers to proxy

Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity

2012-04-09 Thread perryh
Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote: Python on Planes is the future, mn. Shouldn't that be spelled plains, as in the places where the snake-containing grass grows? :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity

2012-04-09 Thread Da Rock
On 04/10/12 21:32, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Mark Felderf...@feld.me wrote: Python on Planes is the future, mn. Shouldn't that be spelled plains, as in the places where the snake-containing grass grows? :-) Ha! One would think so, but with ruby on rails one would think that