Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Albert Shih
Le 31/05/2012 ? 11:32:33-0400, Oscar Hodgson a écrit The subject is pretty much the question. Perhaps there's a better place to be asking this question ... We have (very briefly) discussed the possibility of using FreeBSD pizza boxes as a storage heads direct attached to external JBOD

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2012-06-01 Thread Thomas Mueller
On 29 May 2012 20:06, phnxcs_...@lycos.com wrote:    Hello,   I am moving away from MS products due to security a nd stability   concerns.  Below are the machines I use and would like to know which   version of FreeBSD will work best with each.  The computer s are used   at home and away,

Re: Corrections to: unable to upgrade to mysql55-server

2012-06-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 01/06/2012 00:32, Gene wrote: Actually, I did just as above except using portmanager.. Tried deleting the two packages tried again with portmaster. Still no luck. So I deleted them again and installed from packages. mysql-client-5.4.. installed lib/mysql/ libmysqlclient.so.18, but

Re: MK_CLANG_IS_CC mis-formed when compiling ports

2012-06-01 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 07:13:11PM -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I built FrfeeBSD 9 with WITHOUT_CLANG=Yes When I try to build the net/bwn-firmware-kmod/ I get an error that MK_CLANG_IS_CC is mis-formed. If I define this in make.conf, I get an error that the user may not set this.

FreeBSD ports patch count

2012-06-01 Thread Brent Clark
Hiya I would just like to ask / know. Did anything weird or wonderful happen on the FreeBSD ports. To show you what I mean. [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# portaudit -F -a; portsnap fetch update; pkg_version -vIL=; freebsd-update fetch install auditfile.tbz

Re: FreeBSD ports patch count

2012-06-01 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 6/1/12 9:49 AM, Brent Clark wrote: Hiya I would just like to ask / know. Did anything weird or wonderful happen on the FreeBSD ports. To show you what I mean. [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# portaudit -F -a; portsnap fetch update; pkg_version -vIL=; freebsd-update fetch install

Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?

2012-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
# mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument ) your dmesg shows drive is properly detected. seems like ntfs driver doesn't work OR MBR is't properly handled. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
48TB each, roughly. There would be a couple of units. The pizza boxes would be used for computational tasks, and nominally would have 8 cores and 96G+ RAM. Obvious questions are hardware compatibility and stability. I've set up small FreeBSD 9 machines with ZFS roots and simple mirrors for

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I am also in charge of redesigning one of our virtual SAN's to a FreeBSD ZFS storage system which will run well how many JBOD's can you fit on the system?? Probably round ~100TB or so. quite a bit more without buying overpriced things ___

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I'm not using as huge a dataset, but I was seeing this behavior as well when I first set my box up. What was happening was that ZFS was caching *lots* of writes, and then would dump them all to disk at once, during which time the computer was completely occupied with the disk I/O. The

Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list?

2012-06-01 Thread Mike Clarke
On Thursday 31 May 2012 11:06:24 Thomas Mueller wrote: I contacted my Internet service provider, Insight Cable, about the problem, and they need a copy of any message that bounces, so they can see what went awry. I had the same problem a while ago with my ISP (Plusnet). Standard response from

Re: FreeBSD ports patch count

2012-06-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 01/06/2012 09:34, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 6/1/12 9:49 AM, Brent Clark wrote: Hiya I would just like to ask / know. Did anything weird or wonderful happen on the FreeBSD ports. To show you what I mean. [root@torry /usr/home/bclark]# portaudit -F -a; portsnap fetch update; pkg_version

Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?

2012-06-01 Thread Jens Schweikhardt
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 06:14:08PM -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote: ... # I think you also need xhci driver in kernel config. xhci is for USB 3.0. It's there. As I said, using a USB 3 *Stick* works fine. It is recogized as 3.0 and the speed is as expected. It's the *Disk* that is not recognized.

vpn speed loss

2012-06-01 Thread Beni Brinckman
Hi, I'm running FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE (pc-bsd 9.0 actuallly) on amd64 and I'm using a vpn connexion. My problem is the enormous speed loss i'm having when I'm using the vpn connexion. I have tried Openvpn and mpd5 (with a pptp and l2pt connexion) and the max speed (according to various speedtests)

Re: vpn speed loss

2012-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
vpn connexion. I have tried Openvpn and mpd5 (with a pptp and l2pt connexion) and the max speed (according to various speedtests) is 5 to 6MB. 5-6MB = megabytes per second? megabytes per hour? per year? be more precise. Without the vpn I'm having 45-50 MB... My vpn service has servers in

Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?

2012-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have recompiled the kernel with device ada and put ahci_load=YES in /boot/loader.conf. you don't need ada driver for USB disk. anyway you need it for your SATA disk to make things fast. and mounting it works. Obviously, for the disk the device nodes aren't created... Is there something

Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?

2012-06-01 Thread Jens Schweikhardt
Hi Wojciech et al, On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 10:42:53AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: # # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt # mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument # ) # your dmesg shows drive is properly detected. Yes, but this was only on a USB2 (two) port, and just an auxiliary

netstat: kvm_read: Bad address

2012-06-01 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On ia64 r231193 I get: # netstat -r netstat: kvm_read: Bad address What's the problem? Thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423

Re: netstat: kvm_read: Bad address

2012-06-01 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On ia64 r231193 I get: # netstat -r netstat: kvm_read: Bad address What's the problem? Thanks For jail environment this means that /dev is not mounted. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. ___

Re: netstat: kvm_read: Bad address

2012-06-01 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 01:30:37PM +0300, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On ia64 r231193 I get: # netstat -r netstat: kvm_read: Bad address What's the problem? Thanks For jail environment this means that /dev is not mounted. I'm sure I've got /dev mounted: #

Re: How to indicate source directory in other than /usr/src?

2012-06-01 Thread Peter Vereshagin
Hello. 2012/05/30 17:04:42 +0400 Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : PV xterm works for me in my mutt under tmux, ask me if you need to tweak locale ( I see his L char with the '/' over it in place, and the cyrilic letters in my other mail, too ) PV PV

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Kaya Saman
and definitely do not use it if you will not have regular backups of all data, as in case of failures (yes they do happen) you will just have no chance to repair it. There is NO fsck_zfs! And ZFS is promoted as it doesn't need it. Assuming that filesystem doesn't need offline filesystem

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Assuming that filesystem doesn't need offline filesystem check utility because it never crash is funny. zfs scrub...??? when starting means crash quickly? Well.. no. Certainly with computers that never have hardware faults and assuming ZFS doesn't have any software bugs you may be right.

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Kaya Saman
Additionally ZFS works directly at the block level of the HD meaning that it is slightly different to the 'normal' file systems in storing information and is also self healing.. doesn't other filesystem work on block level too? if no - then at what level? It was my impression that

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Assuming that filesystem doesn't need offline filesystem check utility because it never crash is funny. zfs scrub...??? when starting means crash quickly? Well.. no. Certainly with computers that never have hardware faults and assuming ZFS

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:05:57 +0100, Kaya Saman wrote: It was my impression that ZFS doesn't actually format the disk as stores data as raw information on the hard disk directly rather then using an actual file system structure as such. In worst... in ultra-worst abysmal inexpected exceptional

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
level? It was my impression that ZFS doesn't actually format the disk as does any filesystem format a disk? disks are nowadays factory formatted. filesystem only write data and it's metadata on it. I really recommend you to get basic knowledge of how (any) filesystem works. THEN please

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
and unbelievable narrow cases, when you don't have or can't access a backup (which you should have even when using ZFS), and you _need_ to do some forensic analysis on disks, ZFS seems to be a worse solution than UFS. On ZFS, you never can predict where the data will go. Add several disks to

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: I do _not_ want to try to claim a ZFS inferiority due to missing backups, but there may be occassions where (except performance), low-level file system aspects of UFS might be superior to using ZFS. If you have an operational

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
As for ZFS being dangerous, we have a score of drive-years with no loss of data. The lack of fsck is considered in this intelligently written piece you are just lucky. before i would start using anything new in such important part as filesystem, i do extreme test, ssimulate hardware faults,

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Better=random read performance of single drive. What an entirely useless performance measure! Maybe you should restrict yourself to using SSDs, which have rather unbeatable random read performance - the

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: ZFS is somehow in that part similar to Amiga Fast File System. when you overwrite a directory block (by hardware fault for example), everything below that directory will disappear. You may not be even aware

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Oscar Hodgson
Albert, What are you using for an HBA in the Dell? On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Albert Shih albert.s...@obspm.fr wrote: I've Dell R610 + 48 Go Ram, 2x 6 core + 4 * MD1200 (36*3T + 12*2T) [root@filer ~]# zpool list NAME     SIZE  ALLOC   FREE    CAP  DEDUP  HEALTH  ALTROOT filer    119T  

Support for Intel 82599ES?

2012-06-01 Thread Rick Miller
Hi All, I did not see the Intel 82599ES chipset in the hardware release notes for 8.3 or 9.0. Are these controllers supported at this time? -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 01), Wojciech Puchar said: and unbelievable narrow cases, when you don't have or can't access a backup (which you should have even when using ZFS), and you _need_ to do some forensic analysis on disks, ZFS seems to be a worse solution than UFS. On ZFS, you never

Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds

2012-06-01 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Thomas Mueller muelle...@insightbb.comwrote: I have an HP LaserJet M1212nf MFP, and hplip/hp-setup in FreeBSD finds the printer all right when connected by Ethernet, but then fails on installing the required binary plugin. Printer is not detected at all when

Re: Support for Intel 82599ES?

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Butler
On 06/01/12 13:06, Rick Miller wrote: Thanks, Jack! Also another support question for the listsIs the Broadcom BCM5719 supported? I can find neither in the hardware notes for 8.3 nor 9.0. man bge ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: HP networked printer -- hp-setup won't use, hp-probe finds

2012-06-01 Thread Gary Aitken
On 06/01/12 10:51, Gary Aitken wrote: On 05/31/12 17:59, Thomas Mueller wrote: From Gary Aitkena...@dreamchaser.org : I've got an HP printer directly connected to the local network. hp-probe finds it: #hp-probe -bnet HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.2) Printer

Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?

2012-06-01 Thread Gary Aitken
On 06/01/12 04:01, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: My goal is to get it recognized on one of the two USB3 ports I have. All I get there is Jun 1 11:43:45 hal9000 kernel: ugen4.2:Jmicron Corp. at usbus4 Jun 1 11:43:45 hal9000 kernel: umass0:Jmicron Corp. Usb production, class 0/0, rev 3.00/1.00,

Re: Anyone using freebsd ZFS for large storage servers?

2012-06-01 Thread Anonymous
Certainly with computers that never have hardware faults and assuming ZFS doesn't have any software bugs you may be right. That was part of their assumption. It's based on server grade hardware and ECC RAM, and lots of redundancy. They missed the part about their code not being perfect.

Re: Support for Intel 82599ES?

2012-06-01 Thread Rick Miller
Thanks, Michael! I took a look at the manpage and it does appear that it is supported by the bge driver. It also states that the 572x controller is also supported, but I heard a rumor stating that the BCM5720 in particular did not work even though the manpage indicates it is supported. I was

Re: Support for Intel 82599ES?

2012-06-01 Thread Sean Bruno
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 10:45 -0700, Rick Miller wrote: BCM5720 I haven't gotten this working on my Dell R620 via bge(4), but we are actively working on it. Sean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

How to crontab screen with script inside and a don't run it if it's already running check?

2012-06-01 Thread Dwayne Henderson
I run this Ruby script 24/7 (records data from this live stream). It runs inside a screen though, so it's easy to check in on it every once in a while. But how do I crontab the screen with the script inside it? It has to be with a don't run it if it's already running check. So far I have this

Re: How to crontab screen with script inside and a don't run it if it's already running check?

2012-06-01 Thread Jens Jahnke
Hi, On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 20:55:00 +0200 Dwayne Henderson its.code.in.h...@gmail.com wrote: DH I run this Ruby script 24/7 (records data from this live stream). DH It runs inside a screen though, so it's easy to check in on it DH every once in a while. DH DH But how do I crontab the screen with

Re: Audio CD issue -- most everything but noise ASUS M4A89TD mobo

2012-06-01 Thread Gary Aitken
On 05/31/12 16:16, Polytropon wrote: Impedance and level mismatch would be the typical reason for this. But basically, it's not _much_ worse than using an internal analog connection. Probably ok if you soldered it up so you didn't have the mismatch from crappy high impedance plug-in

Re: FreeBSD ports patch count

2012-06-01 Thread ajtiM
On Friday 01 June 2012 04:25:12 Matthew Seaman wrote: On 01/06/2012 09:34, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 6/1/12 9:49 AM, Brent Clark wrote: Hiya I would just like to ask / know. Did anything weird or wonderful happen on the FreeBSD ports. To show you what I mean. [root@torry

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2012-06-01 Thread Mario Lobo
On Friday 01 June 2012 03:29:40 Thomas Mueller wrote: I ddon't see any advantage in FreeBSD 8.x or earlier. Well, I still see complains about a few quirks in 9 here in the list, specially after certain src updates. Re:Use of C99 extra long double math functions after r236148 Re: kern/168190:

Re: MK_CLANG_IS_CC mis-formed when compiling ports

2012-06-01 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 06/01/12 00:00, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 07:13:11PM -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I built FrfeeBSD 9 with WITHOUT_CLANG=Yes When I try to build the net/bwn-firmware-kmod/ I get an error that MK_CLANG_IS_CC is mis-formed. If I define this in make.conf, I get an

Re: 9.0 on SSD

2012-06-01 Thread Victor Sudakov
Warren Block wrote: [dd] I have not done any tricky partition alignment, do I really need to? Is anything else advisable? If it's not aligned, there can be a pretty significant performance drop. Please show the output of 'gpart show' on that drive if it's GPT (gpart show ada0) or

Re: FreeBSD on the ASUS P8H67-M LGA1155 H67 motherboard

2012-06-01 Thread Victor Sudakov
I have installed 9.0-RELEASE on this motherboard with the following brief results: $ cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) Installed devices: pcm0: HDA Realtek ALC892 PCM #0 Analog (play/rec) default pcm1: HDA Realtek ALC892 PCM #1 Analog (play/rec) pcm2: HDA