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. . . or provide the ability to select the old installer at boot time,
perhaps. Let's not turn this into a false dilemma; I don't see why we
can't have our cake and eat it too for a while.
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the benefit of the doubt, at
least at first. Perhaps the rhetoric can be scaled back a little bit in
this case. Has there been some response to your complaints that I have
not seen that justifies this level of heat?
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, not a folder. :-)
After all, it doesn't fold (for that you need a little Haskell or OCaml).
Hmm. That was direct.
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if this kind of off topic could be of interested to
the list so please feel free to answer me directly .
I think this is, in fact, on-topic for this list. It is a question
particular to FreeBSD, which is the point of the freebsd-questions
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On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:33:28PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:55:04PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012:
So . . . please start
not imply Robert Bonomi
*wrote* it; rather, it would imply that he *agrees* with its moral
justification.
If I had to guess, of course, I would think he believes it is morally
justified, but that's a wild-ass speculation, and not enough to induce me
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listing a bunch of browsers - I like all of
these less than any of the browsers I mentioned before this paragraph,
for a variety of reasons.
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to have any meaningful
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off-topicness has gone on long enough, and my most friendly overtures
have been met only with flames in any case.
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On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:34:52PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:00:12 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated:
You just ignored the salient point of what Robert Bonomi said, in
favor of trivialities. If you prefer, pretend he said:
HE asked that they explain why it *IS* morally
as good . . . or did
you mean it is, as you wrote it here?
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On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 04:16:15PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:13:55 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated:
Why the heck did you ask for it, then?
Fair enough, because in your post dated: On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26
-0700, you make this remark: I think the statement was more like
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 09:54:46PM +, Peter Harrison wrote:
On 4 Jan 2012, at 21:26, Chad Perrin wrote:
Did you mean to say The keybinding is *not* quite as good . . . or did
you mean it is, as you wrote it here?
Perils of typing too fast.
Yes, I meant the keybinding
be used to deactivate the
hardware whitelisting somewhere out there on the Internet, as there is
for ThinkPads.
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On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 03:06:11AM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. In its
zeal to make things just work in a particular manner, it seems
hell-bent on ignoring
you wish to convey.
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On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012:
So . . . please start with the denotative meanings of words, consider
your audience, and use words accordingly. If you wish to use a term
differently than how it is understood
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 11:55:26PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and others
(even in the linux community) over the past
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 08:31:14AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated:
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list
source software in general,
which makes me wonder why you hang around this mailing list.
If I hated something that much, I would avoid it.
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reading the article, so that it will make more
sense as presented on that page. For all I know, the way TR's
stylesheets handle code formatting might all change again tomorrow, and
make things even worse.
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On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 09:23:22AM +1030, William Brown wrote:
On 22/12/2011, at 20:06, Matthew Seaman wrote:
svn vs git vs mercurial
svn has the model of a central repository that everything has to
communicate with. This can be attractive in a commercial environment as
it implies
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 05:32:00AM -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote:
On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:05:05 -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote:
So, wait, Firefox is Malware? Did you notice that with FF4
they changed it so that you didn't get prompted on launch
it
, right?
I think it means he found the wordplay humorous.
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of terminology, the more they are emboldened; I think
it was the RIAA representative at the SOPA hearing yesterday who
literally equated copyright infringement with *murder*.
Don't be like that jackass.
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On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:56:06PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:17:50 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
Copyright infringement is copyright infringement -- and not theft --
no matter how hyperbolic your choice of phrasing. Castigate people
for the unlawful act of copyright
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:41:51PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
Oh, of course -- pirated, like the hundreds of CDs and audiocasettes
and DVDs I have, though I've stopped consuming new music in any form from
corporations that sue their own customers.
clarification: Those are hundreds of CDs
shouldn't beat yourself up over it.
If you have no specific need to keep SSH on 22, definitely move a
public-facing SSH server to a nonstandard port, for reasons unrelated to
actual intrusion security.
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for the reason stated in the prior
paragraph.
I should have finished reading the thread before sending my own reply on
a different branch of the discussion. This is (stated differently)
pretty much exactly the message I meant to convey.
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of such techniques, rather than security per se.
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client is a bucket of ass.
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On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 06:55:05PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote:
On Sep 16, 2011, at 17:27, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 02:14:42PM -0400, Daniel Staal wrote:
Also many smartphone and tablet mailers automatically top-post, and make
it significantly harder
.
I'm not saying Common Lisp would be a bad choice for translation of a
Python program to a language that compiles to a binary executable, but
your description of the language does not strike me as accurate.
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be fixed long before they take the
drastic step of trying to make up for those problems (rather than fixing
them) by throwing away stuff that works.
It strikes me as a case of poor decision making similar, in principle, to
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Guide,
which I chose based on the fact it was the first pfSense book on that
page. It's not the publisher for any other pfSense books such as the
pfSense 2 Cookbook.
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On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 09:04:28PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
Quoth Chad Perrin on Saturday, 27 August 2011:
I've decided to provide the professional response Evan claims to
crave:
Dear Evan,
We appreciate your feedback on the quality, scope, and focus of our
assessment of the nature of the survey itself is pretty accurate,
though.
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a very folk-wisdom feel to it.
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have any further questions, do not hesitate to use the support
form on the Website. Thank you for your business.
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more on the quality of what they release.
FreeBSD is better about this than many other high-profile projects I
could name.
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in there somewhere, perhaps between you'd and want,
because there are many people who would not actually like the PC-BSD
environment on a laptop (including me).
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That will be alright for experimenting FreeBSD and learning.
Will I be able to jail a FreeBSD within a PC-BSD host?
Yes, you should be able to do so. PC-BSD is basically just FreeBSD with
a lot of extra stuff pre-configured.
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of which looks either
dead wrong or pretty petty in the face of larger problems with MS Windows
and Linux-based systems to which you want to unfavorably compare FreeBSD,
is not helpful to anyone.
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Windows, Linux-based systems, Solaris, or FreeBSD anyway. You should
take the eat your own dogfood approach, and use Mac servers and
desktops. I guess you really *are* just trolling.
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many people run production servers on
RELEASE, never mind BETA? Mine has been running on STABLE, first 8.1
and then 8.2.
Me! Because if it works, don't break it..
Duane Me too. Been running FreeBSD release versions on servers for
Duane years.
AOLme too/AOL
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:21:57PM -0500, Lars Eighner wrote:
They all have true multiprocessing so you can switch from one command
line environment (virtual terminal) to another with a keystroke.
Do you mean multitasking here, rather than multiprocessing?
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On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 07:25:52AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
Do I get a cookie?
Only if you visit a web site that uses them,
and have them enabled in your browser :)
I accept or deny on a site-by-site basis. I wouldn't want to get one
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 09:20:08PM -0600, Dmitri Brengauz wrote:
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 07:08:25PM -0400, Rod Person wrote:
If you like Fluxbox you might want to try OpenBox.
Nah. Stick with Fluxbox.
Sorry
On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 11:49:12PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 08:26:39AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
Fluxbox supports window tabbing. Last I checked, OpenBox did not. In
fact, amongst the 'box window managers, window tabbing is pretty much the
killer feature
project.
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on others or
doing a crappy job for lack of interest in putting in the time and effort
to do it right -- is bad laziness, and not the kind of good laziness
I just described.
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systems, because a lot of those threats are essentially the result of
economic and political circumstances inspiring people to act according to
their natures.
Voila. By a long and circuitous route, I brought it back to the subject
of FreeBSD. Do I get a cookie?
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, depending on how far down the rabbit hole you
want to go.
I hope that helps.
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for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure.
Are there any other window manager worth looking?
What is your window manager?
If you like Fluxbox you might want to try OpenBox.
Nah. Stick with Fluxbox.
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On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 05:27:05PM -0700, Ivan Frosty wrote:
fvwm2 anytime.
I suppose that's an option, but it's kinda bloated for my tastes.
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-directories
What about tree?
/usr/ports/sysutils/tree
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language such as Perl or Ruby instead of an interactive
shell syntax. More sophisticated shells are fine for interactive use,
but should not be relied upon for shell scripting in the vast majority of
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and servers these days. Some of them are both.
None of them are desktops, in that they do not sit at or on a desk with
external monitor, keyboard, and pointing device attached, ready to be
used as workstations.
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basic tools to which even non-root users are accustomed to having
access. Consider cat, for instance.
So the problem is not a missing app, it is more of the usual vendor
lock stuff.
There's that -- but there's also a lot of missing applications.
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On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 07:30:08PM +0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
Op 25-7-2011 18:59 schreef Chad Perrin:
So the problem is not a missing app, it is more of the usual vendor
lock stuff.
There's that -- but there's also a lot of missing applications.
HTC is removing the root lock protection
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 09:48:46AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
El día Sunday, July 24, 2011 a las 06:41:57AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com
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Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
If Android actually exposed more of the Linux underpinnings
it might be somewhat useful to me
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 06:41:57AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
If Android actually exposed more of the Linux underpinnings
it might be somewhat useful to me ...
There _is_ a development kit. I have no idea what-all is involved
in setting
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:05:40AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:58:26 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
In fact, the NetworkManager set of network management tools has in
some ways outdone the stupidities of MS Windows network management.
Hey, this is stupid, but it's
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:25:10PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote:
On 23/07/2011 22:58, Chad Perrin wrote:
Do you realize that MS Windows has nothing equivalent to rc.conf or
/etc/network/interfaces?
It does: it's in the registry.
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces
some asinine automated network selection line of crap like
NetworkManager makes its way into the FreeBSD base system is probably the
day I stop using it.
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of Stockholm Syndrome.
When someone fires up MS Office or OpenOffice.org just to write the
equivalent of a post-it note, there is something horribly, desperately
wrong with the way people use software.
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. As I said, I'm not a kernel hacker.
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it was 8.2, but I didn't keep careful notes that I can
check now.
It failed to work. I think I got a doesn't support long mode error,
but again I am not 100% certain due to the passage of time and the fact I
have not really thought about it in the interim.
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, and internal power will
make up for the simple fact it's just a damned toy.
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, essentially)
would be a good start. I'd take NetBSD or OpenBSD, too.
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On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 02:06:04PM -0400, Daniel Staal wrote:
On Thu, July 21, 2011 1:11 pm, Chad Perrin wrote:
If all they want is a toy with a Web browser and an email client, I guess
that works for them. I don't know if they really count for purposes of
discussing the possible
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 07:18:21PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote:
On 21/07/2011 18:00, Chad Perrin wrote:
I suspect those drivers are the drivers that have *survived*. I saw
hardware suddenly stop working because of driver issues just between
SP1 and SP2 of XP -- including, in one case, the hard
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 08:55:29AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:21:31 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:
This is where we find a dividing line between users who want different
things. Yes, you turn on your Win7 laptop (or wake it up) in a coffee
shop, and it connects
.
I just wanted to point out a little-recognized detail of the benefit of
BSD Unix systems over GPLed systems, once you (sorta inadvertently)
brought up one of the effects of that difference.
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that makes the computer behave in a(n unproductively) non-deterministic
manner should stay in the Ubuntu and MS Windows ghettos where it belongs.
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file,
so getting rid of navigational bars should be possible too.
Firefox has preferences that can be set to eliminate any unwanted
toolbars, though I do not know off the top of my head of a means of
making it impossible for a user to change the preferences back.
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one workspace and the browser
executed in your .xinitrc file would do the trick. I seem to recall
there is a way to turn off access to TTY consoles, too.
I wonder, though . . . why Firefox? Would a more minimal (but still GUI)
browser -- such as Surf, perhaps -- serve your needs better?
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the BSD sites, don't see any
vendor specific drivers.
I find what you say you're doing interesting, even if I'm not entirely
clear on what it is in all its particulars. Would you please clarify the
aim of your efforts?
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:08:59PM -0500, David Scheidt wrote:
On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
. . . and, somehow, social convention tells me it would be rude to
let this person know (for next time) that everything will be much
easier for everyone if the data is just
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 01:36:17PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:30:46 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
It's not prejudice. That assumes I prejudge. My judgment is based
on years of fighting with the BS features of office suites of all
descriptions for years, and loathing
This email actually mentions Skype and SIP phones toward the end.
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 06:29:03PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:46:24 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
I still managed to do everything I needed to do in under twenty
minutes, but if the data had been left
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 07:44:04PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:04:28 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
This means that even LaTeX is usually the wrong choice.
LaTeX is for typesetting text (articles, books, technical documents,
maybe even letters) - nothing more, nothing less
, technical quality
rarely matters when it comes time for the politicians and bureaucrats to
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On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 02:25:52AM +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote:
2011-06-17 18:28, Chad Perrin skrev:
The fact this is not applicable everywhere is the reason for things
like the CC0 waiver, however.
What is CC0?
http://creativecommons.org/choose/zero/
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 06:14:03AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:35:54 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
I've noticed that your mail user agent is including quoted parties'
email addresses in the quote notification. In the text immediately
following this brief paragraph
to database protection according to the Swedish
# Copyright Act.
Holy crap. That's awful.
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is the reason for things like
the CC0 waiver, however.
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:57:20AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
On Jun 17, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
Where i live no need to register, you get copyright if the stuff
fulfills certain criteria, originality is one.
Registration aids enforcement. Of course, there's always the poor
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:48:25AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
The poor man's copyright approach is, I believe, less certain and
effective than registration, but if there is a dispute over proper
claim of copyright, anything you can do
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 05:02:09PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote:
OK, time for somebody who really knows about this stuff to wade in.
[snip]
Thanks for much more clearly stating, in much greater detail, exactly
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the Open Group's
certification standards and (more importantly) have some certification
fee paid, as I understand it.
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-- regardless of what we said about it.
The difference is that trademarks are used to identify some entity and
its creations, while copyrights are used to censor the redistribution of
creations themselves.
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minor roads on them that don't exist. It makes them copyrightable.)
This tactic has been used by dictionary publishers as well.
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