Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask...

2010-09-10 Thread Chad Perrin
alternative for those who don't have it, these days? These days, it seems like the only places people *really* think they still need Java are smartphones and enterprise systems running on overpriced servers -- neither of which makes a difference for Firefox on the desktop. -- Chad Perrin [ original

Re: how to tell ls output date in digital

2010-09-09 Thread Chad Perrin
(and a chuckle). Note that this doesn't work with GNU ls, because Stallman and MacKenzie in their infinite wisdom decided GNU ls needed -D to produce output tailored to some Emacs functionality. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpMfUmonUtkw.pgp

Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir

2010-09-09 Thread Chad Perrin
have my own versions of them. Let me know if you can't find them, and I'll send you copies of my scripts. I'd like to see what you have, even if the OP doesn't need them. Are they of your own making, or copied from somewhere? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir

2010-09-09 Thread Chad Perrin
for the information and the breakln script. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpxFz1N5xFMQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: PDF to HTML translations

2010-09-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 10:31:54AM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 08:57:11AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 05:09:20PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: What PDF to HTML translators, other than pdftohtml, am I likely to be able to find in ports? I went

Re: PDF to HTML translations

2010-09-06 Thread Chad Perrin
support for exporting to other formats. I'd love to find out I'm wrong. I've been meaning to sort out how to use SWISH::Filter::Pdf2HTML as a possibility, but haven't gotten around to it yet. Isn't PECL for PHP, though? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

PDF to HTML translations

2010-09-04 Thread Chad Perrin
here whether anyone knows of something off the top of his/her head. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpcfXqERGvTX.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ports database

2010-08-29 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 08:36:18PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:07:45 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Is that supposed to say this? tar -cf ports.tar /usr/port I think the - infront of the options string isn't neccessary for tar, but it's

Re: ports database

2010-08-28 Thread Chad Perrin
Internet connection; finally extract it there. Is that supposed to say this? tar -cf ports.tar /usr/port -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpGMNPDnaSv3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page

2010-08-26 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 02:42:18PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: I was not entirely sure before today whether the 4050N could handle straight PostScript instead of PCL, but the test I performed using nc to see if it would print properly involved using

Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page

2010-08-26 Thread Chad Perrin
to produce PS output, which is then sent to the printer using netcat, produces a neatly printed page with no problems, however -- other than the minor problem that I'm using netcat to send jobs to my printer rather than a front end for a proper printing queue. -- Chad Perrin [ original content

Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page

2010-08-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 06:12:40PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic. Me too. That's why I use lpd. I'm considering it, at least for this laptop. Still, it would be nice to know how to fix this problem

Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page

2010-08-25 Thread Chad Perrin
correspond to the margin settings in GtkLP, but fiddling with those settings has zero observable effect on printing. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp4mslQs3oLB.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page

2010-08-25 Thread Chad Perrin
- | nc lj4050hostname 9100 If that has cut off margins, it's a setting within the printer. If it prints fine, it's CUPS. That test worked out beautifully. Apparently, it is a problem with CUPS settings. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page

2010-08-25 Thread Chad Perrin
having with CUPS, for my own edification, but whether I use the fix on this laptop in the long run or end up switching to lpd (with or without apsfilter) is still under consideration. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpkJFnHlC8t8.pgp Description: PGP

printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page

2010-08-24 Thread Chad Perrin
the problem? Unfortunately, it looks like the FreeBSD Handbook only deals with lpd. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpZfQj1rGqwg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page

2010-08-24 Thread Chad Perrin
my girlfriend's laptop (running Ubuntu) prints the same PDF just fine. I'll send the specific PDF I've been trying to print lately, off-list. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp7iG4wnA2Ts.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page

2010-08-24 Thread Chad Perrin
it's not specific to either of those tools. I really do seem to be having a problem with CUPS behavior itself. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpPUxpZz3VAn.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Is this bunk.

2010-08-23 Thread Chad Perrin
using the BSD networking stack). It's true either way, because Garry said (or used to use). It is true that MS Windows used to use a BSD licensed network stack. My understanding is that this got replaced in Vista, however, in case you're curious. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL

Re: Is this bunk.

2010-08-23 Thread Chad Perrin
to near anarchy http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/su-invocation.html. I do not think anarchy is the correct term so much as chaos. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpMz1q0f0Sq5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Why is the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack the best?

2010-08-23 Thread Chad Perrin
clean and readable -- and therefore easily reused. There may be other reasons involved. FreeBSD does tend to rate fairly well in network performance benchmarks, by the way, but those benchmarks are not typically tuned for testing the TCP/IP stack *specifically*, from what I've seen. -- Chad

Re: Is this bunk.

2010-08-22 Thread Chad Perrin
suppose your tastes may differ. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpWIl8Gdg3xc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Can't remove or move file

2010-08-20 Thread Chad Perrin
a filename glob: rm *PWGg.flv Whether this works depends on your shell, though. In tcsh, for instance, it won't work, and you'll have to use the -- option as suggested by Mark Tinguely. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp2oIsaeKsvW.pgp Description

Re: Any awk gurus on the list?

2010-08-20 Thread Chad Perrin
can also run Perl. Why not concentrate on Perl? Maybe he wants to understand Awk well enough to translate a bunch of Awk scripts to Perl. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpA2GJHUtJAc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Good Terminal for X?

2010-08-07 Thread Chad Perrin
or backgrounds if you like that. It's not a lot lighter - I made a table recently to investigate. See http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#bug_rxvt Thanks for the research. I had no idea rxvt-unicode had gotten so big. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: copyright for man pages

2010-08-05 Thread Chad Perrin
Documentation License. There may be a couple here and there distributed under other licenses as well. I'm not anyone officially associated with the documentation project, though, so don't just take my word for it if you have reason to question what I've said. -- Chad Perrin [ original content

Re: how to parse output of application?

2010-08-03 Thread Chad Perrin
if it would take you weeks to write code to do the work for you, I guess you're stuck with taking weeks to do it, unless you want to just do it all by hand. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpWRNlZVVOq3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)

2010-08-01 Thread Chad Perrin
. Maybe he's just among those Hindu deities. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp9viBbFKEay.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-29 Thread Chad Perrin
... :-) No . . . before death, they're in Pergatory, being (hopefully) cleansed of their sins. If they never repent of those other OSes, though, *then* they go to Hell. . . . or something. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpRW5t364sH7.pgp Description: PGP

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-27 Thread Chad Perrin
not a psychologist. If you are, you should have your degree revoked for trying to diagnose people over the Internet based on a minor flame war. Get off your high horse. It's not doing you any good. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpXBphphDY6i.pgp

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-26 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:20:31AM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote: On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:29:37AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: Without downloading a PDF and reading it . . . do you know what Latin variant is used in that document? No, without download and reading the PDF I wouldn't know

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-26 Thread Chad Perrin
? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp6ugw8jNGAY.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-26 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 01:24:21PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Saturday, July 24, 2010 00:24:46 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: When this is the way someone starts a discussion about wanting to use a new OS, I tend to believe there is no genuine interest in using the OS

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-26 Thread Chad Perrin
. The assumptions and bias in that statement are so broad as to defy description. There appeared to be a fair bit of assumption and bias in your response to me, as well. Pot, kettle, et cetera. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpYY4PB4YHFj.pgp Description

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-25 Thread Chad Perrin
/wikipedia/en/wiki/Beastie_(mascot) -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpeO6rY9ugdx.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 08:47:30AM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 03:47:25PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: Actually, daemon is a Latinization of the Greek daimon. Daimon is pronounced something more like die-mahn, but (being from the Latin) daemon is prounounced dee

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-25 Thread Chad Perrin
some symbol they misunderstand, and how it offends their willfully ignorant, idolatrist sensitibilities. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp1ntZ13orTC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-25 Thread Chad Perrin
to be changed is representative of the entirety of Christianity, and by disagreeing with him we are Christian-bashing). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpTou7yqeWLt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:49:43PM +0530, me wrote: ...and thus the Godwin's law holds! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Shouldn't this have been a response to the guy *before* me? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpeu6nBOw2fB.pgp

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:20:23AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 25 July 2010: On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:54:37AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: snip I'd think a devout Christian would have much more reason to complain about a Flying Spaghetti Monster (whose only

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Chad Perrin
damnation by choosing the wrong OS. The desire to be outraged appears to be stronger than the desire to educate oneself. When this is the way someone starts a discussion about wanting to use a new OS, I tend to believe there is no genuine interest in using the OS in question. -- Chad Perrin [ original

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Chad Perrin
a hundred times. Far better to educate those who are poorly informed than to roll over to prejudice and misinformation. I agree. Good work. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpK81aEuGk6D.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Chad Perrin
it on the first read-through. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpBk60IpxRA3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: GUI for AC

2010-07-17 Thread Chad Perrin
). Perhaps Jerry thinks that AIX, MacOS X, or Solaris is The Best Unix, or perhaps he simply is not aware of the actual state of things in the world of ACLs. I suppose it's possible that I'm ignorant of some important detail, instead. If so, I hope someone will educate me on the subject. -- Chad Perrin

Re: .sh check for sufix g or m on size field

2010-07-13 Thread Chad Perrin
on that point. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpxVfg5ChZoS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Wacom tablet driver port doesn't seem to work

2010-07-13 Thread Chad Perrin
port. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpxAprb8G77f.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: .sh check for sufix g or m on size field

2010-07-13 Thread Chad Perrin
. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpNCVvuvwgos.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Wacom tablet driver port doesn't seem to work

2010-07-13 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 05:06:22PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 13 July 2010: Alas, I do not have that file either. There are, in fact, no files with wacom anywhere in the path on this system other than the files in the input-wacom port. Interesting. After

Wacom tablet driver port doesn't seem to work

2010-07-11 Thread Chad Perrin
that doesn't contain the string wacom in the name)? Any guidance would be appreciated. The FreeBSD version on the X60 is 8.0-RELEASE. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpGJp1R2hRcb.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: best open source site for Bourne .sh development project?

2010-07-05 Thread Chad Perrin
: http://bitbucket.org/ (depending on your DVCS preferences) -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpVUC7X6MvkP.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: .sh check for numeric content

2010-06-24 Thread Chad Perrin
want to consider switching to Bash. If we're going to start telling him what language to use, we might as well tell him to use an actual *programming* language (e.g. Perl). Otherwise, perhaps we should try to stick to what he wants to use. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: thunderbird replacement

2010-06-21 Thread Chad Perrin
the decision (and maybe give us more of an idea of what would be a suitable replacement in this case). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpj3MaXXp8Wl.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: freebsd - for the win

2010-06-12 Thread Chad Perrin
may differ. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpw78sxaaqIk.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: freebsd - for the win

2010-06-12 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 06:43:19PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 12/06/2010 16:38:13, Chad Perrin wrote: I don't mean to belittle anyone's accomplishments, of course, but I don't find it astonishing at all. FreeBSD's development model is one that encourages people to develop what

Re: freebsd - for the win

2010-06-12 Thread Chad Perrin
(which I do *not* think is what you were saying) that we should actively *avoid* popularity for the sake of quality . . . well, I find it quite annoying. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpu8tdRj56MK.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: freebsd - for the win

2010-06-12 Thread Chad Perrin
learning curve to another can be a real eye-opener, and might result in eventually producing the next FreeBSD core developer. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpqNjaglYH8G.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: office apps

2010-06-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 03:55:40PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:28:04 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I've never had a client who wouldn't take either PDF or plain text. And five minutes later, they call you by phone and ask how they can edit the PDF file

Re: office apps

2010-06-08 Thread Chad Perrin
haven't really had any need to deal with the DOC(X) and other MS Office formats. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpe9RB87YOA8.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: office apps

2010-06-08 Thread Chad Perrin
count to see an empty window after typing openoffice.org-3.0.0 -nologo. Hardware is ... I'm not sure what you mean by this. Empty window? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpTnuiBSPWfD.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
judgment and preferences, but it might be worth a few dollars to avoid the annoyance of dealing with OO.o on the rare occasion that I do need something MS Office compatible. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpcI4JtLyvC0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 08:26:04PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:06:07 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I've never really tried using vi-mode editing in any shell, despite the fact I'm a constant vi user (even a vi gangsta, one might say). Maybe I should

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
, and I'm pleased as punch it's working out so well for you. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpHqjh4KyJK4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
personally whether that's true. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpRCOIiQyafA.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
open it in Word, save as DOC(X), then send the friggin' thing back to me in that format after making some changes. I keep hoping the day will come when people who prefer MS Word are the rarity, rather than me being the odd man out. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

nvi autoindent

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
the current line is indented when entering a newline. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgplkNZq3fB0w.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-06 Thread Chad Perrin
to see that there are so many features they had to break up the man pages. That's kind of scary. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpiMshgJD1LJ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:50:43AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: On Jun 06 2010 10:31, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears

Re: office apps

2010-06-06 Thread Chad Perrin
install on one of my computers for so long. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgphl8gVuRlj3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-06 Thread Chad Perrin
it out. Another response to my question discusses some other benefits, though. . . . Thanks for your perspective. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp960sYrvYxt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-06 Thread Chad Perrin
a shell script (which, for me, is usually just a batch file, perhaps with a little flow control and a variable or two) I can always just start sh. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpX2htdvmoGH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread Chad Perrin
is even more ubiquitous than bash. Why not just use that for scripting if you want more than sh? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpwjTRSVHMj7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread Chad Perrin
out as a reimplementation of TECO in Lisp? As I recall, it started out as a collection of TECO macros. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpHauwcSPxVu.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Chad Perrin
uptight? If anything, it's *you* who took things into the realm of politics by pulling it out of the signature block where it belonged. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpFgHoUVbcNq.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Strying off topic, but Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread Chad Perrin
in the gigabytes. It's not a problem you're likely to encounter in general usage. It does give me a little faith in the ability of Vim to avoid abusing system resources (and of vi in general). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp0Xct42bOnj.pgp Description: PGP

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 08:25:54PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: On 2010.06.03 19:46, Chad Perrin wrote: If anything, it's *you* who took things into the realm of politics by pulling it out of the signature block where it belonged. Nicely put Chad. Thanks! ...here's an example

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 05:23:55PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 07:08:42 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:21:20PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:32:04 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: Unfortunately, the killer feature that keeps me

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:10:22AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I remember writing our own text editor, and it had to fit in 64K. I remember when . . . I got nuthin'. I think my first text editor was edlin, and it *sucked*. . . . not counting this nifty editor I called pencil. -- Chad Perrin

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Chad Perrin
there was nothing like a Unix shell to make reasonable use of it, it was nothing but frustration. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp42MGZiW2Ee.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Chad Perrin
that work out -- and what happened to it? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpxsR7qQz9tn.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:21:20PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:32:04 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: Unfortunately, the killer feature that keeps me with Vim instead of nvi is its support for multiple levels of undo. Have you ever tried u (undo command) followed

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 07:49:56AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: Young whippersnappers. *Eight* was the good old days, back before the web was invented. No -- those are the even better old days. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpsisp2Mnyyg.pgp

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:10:03AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:28:27 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:31:59PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: If you don't mind the size of the respective packages, both VIM and GNU Emacs have

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Chad Perrin
. . . . probably because it's increasingly inaccurate. Eighty was the good ol' days. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpZIP1xtwvq1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Chad Perrin
that is under 256k in size. Unfortunately, the killer feature that keeps me with Vim instead of nvi is its support for multiple levels of undo. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp9ujiQxFcjv.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Chad Perrin
I meant to reply to the list, as a response to this, but accidentally replied directly to Giorgos Keramidas. On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:45:07PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2010 09:59:00 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Does Vim install more than the binary

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Chad Perrin
. It *barely* doesn't fit on a 3.5 floppy when you use a full install of the console-based Vim editor. I'm pretty sure it's under 2 MB. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpaG7UliNUHC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: md5(1) and cal(1)

2010-05-10 Thread Chad Perrin
that bothers me about diff is that, even though it's often described as a string comparison utility, it doesn't actually compare strings -- it compares files that *contain* strings. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpWuLPIUH3la.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Addition to BSDstats

2010-05-09 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 02:56:49PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Maybe some sort of 'Server Running *BSD' icon / link from web sites to bsdstats.org would help too ... Not all BSD Unix systems are servers. This email was composed in Mutt+Vim on FreeBSD 7.2 on a ThinkPad R52. -- Chad

Re: I am new to BSD

2010-05-01 Thread Chad Perrin
them afterward. The /usr/ports/UPDATING file gives the guidance we need to ensure that things get handled right the first time. In fact, I basically never use portupgrade -a, because I want to make sure I don't overlook something. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: ziz a dumb question?

2010-05-01 Thread Chad Perrin
performance out of your computer or your network. Even if your computer is drawing a whole lot of power, you might be better off replacing your television and DVR unit with a computer than replacing the computer with another computer that draws less power. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed

Re: ziz a dumb question?

2010-05-01 Thread Chad Perrin
enclosure is usually an entertainment center). I was speaking of the most value per purchase in terms of power consumption, not dollars spent. How much you're actually spending is for you to sort out. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp0EXmaaDsSY.pgp

Re: email address on google through this link

2010-04-27 Thread Chad Perrin
rather than the whole list, this problem will exist -- because if people on the list can get your email address, they can also make those email addresses public (or abuse them, if they happen to be the types of people who join mailing lists just to harvest email addresses). -- Chad Perrin [ original

Re: version/revision control software for things mostly not source

2010-04-18 Thread Chad Perrin
delete something not just from the current working version, but from the whole repo. I won't repeat them here. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpM98E8PXT0D.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: version/revision control software for things mostly not source

2010-04-17 Thread Chad Perrin
and a DVCS are both candidates for best option in your case. Note: I use Subversion and Mercurial as my examples because those are the two I generally use and like the most. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpADYbPfUiOO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: version/revision control software for things mostly not source

2010-04-17 Thread Chad Perrin
simple to use, too. If all the bells and whistles you suggested are desired, though, it does get to be a bit more to manage. For access from Windows, try TortoiseSVN. Luckily, TortoiseSVN is pretty easy to set up and use on MS Windows. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: version/revision control software for things mostly not source

2010-04-17 Thread Chad Perrin
you have available to you. I suspect, from what little information has been offered so far, that Subversion will probably be the most suitable tool -- but there's a certain amount of guesswork in that, and only the person who needs to select the tool can be sure what best suits his needs. -- Chad

Re: linux-pango update fails

2010-04-12 Thread Chad Perrin
as well and that's why it didn't want to install. I'm pretty severely disappointed in the state of linux-pango security on FreeBSD right about now. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgppKnMPIyTQi.pgp Description: PGP signature

linux-pango update fails

2010-04-11 Thread Chad Perrin
-toolkits/linux-pango (linux-pango-1.10.2_3) (unknown build error) A Google search for information from the above hasn't proven fruitful. Any ideas how I could narrow down the exact problem and work out a solution would be appreciated. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: are the are C [or C++] src sites ....

2010-04-10 Thread Chad Perrin
had my morning jolt of java yet I suspect there are quite a few examples of BSD-specific C functions *in* the FreeBSD kernel. I'm pretty sure this isn't what you meant, though, so please clarify. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 01:09:54PM +0100, RW wrote: On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 01:20:49PM +0100, RW wrote: On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05

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