Re: upgrade from Firefox 3.0 to Firefox 3.5 -- now that it's installed, it won't run

2009-07-18 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 07:53:58PM +0200, Frank Steinborn wrote: Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 07:48:27PM +0200, Frank Steinborn wrote: Now this is strange... it should be available. See the sem(4) manpage. No idea how to help from this point except to advice you

Re: upgrade from Firefox 3.0 to Firefox 3.5 -- now that it's installed, it won't run

2009-07-18 Thread Chad Perrin
unsubscribed from freebsd-ports@ a while ago, so I can't just respond in-thread to the www/firefox35 coredumps discussion there. Would it be better for me to start a new thread on freebsd-ports@ rather than continue discussing it here? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

upgrade from Firefox 3.0 to Firefox 3.5

2009-07-17 Thread Chad Perrin
So . . . how do I upgrade Firefox from 3.0 to 3.5 without running the risk of losing everything (bookmarks, a 100-tab session, et cetera)? For some reason, it seems that the upgrade has to be made by deleting 3.0 and installing 3.5 afterward. What's up with that? -- Chad Perrin [ original

Re: upgrade from Firefox 3.0 to Firefox 3.5

2009-07-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 01:43:47AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:48:37 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: So . . . how do I upgrade Firefox from 3.0 to 3.5 without running the risk of losing everything (bookmarks, a 100-tab session, et cetera)? Well, I don't

Re: upgrade from Firefox 3.0 to Firefox 3.5

2009-07-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 02:28:22AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:07:36 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Do you know this from personal experience, or are you just assuming that I won't pull out all my hair five seconds after I discover it deleted a bunch

Re: Automatic screen lock when leaving desk

2009-07-15 Thread Chad Perrin
, and liked it, but eventually decided I liked Sawfish slightly more, then that I liked AHWM a *lot* more. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Alan Kay: I invented the term 'Object-Oriented', and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind. pgpc0w4wExAkF.pgp

Re: turning off the wireless network radio

2009-07-14 Thread Chad Perrin
kldunload works for me as well. If you turn debug up on ifconfig does that give you any clues? I dunno. Maybe I'm using the debug parameter incorrectly, but it isn't giving me *anything*. How is it supposed to be used? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: turning off the wireless network radio

2009-07-14 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:20:25PM +0200, Maciej Milewski wrote: Dnia wtorek 14 lipiec 2009 o 07:38:49 Chad Perrin napisał(a): I'm having a real bitch of a time trying to figure out how to shut down the wireless adapter's radio. The driver module won't unload as long as the adapter

Re: Automatic screen lock when leaving desk

2009-07-14 Thread Chad Perrin
on the computer or something like that. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Paul Graham: SUVs are gross because they're the solution to a gross problem. (How to make minivans look more masculine.) pgps08FekitOV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: turning off the wireless network radio

2009-07-14 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:53:42PM -0800, Mel Flynn wrote: On Tuesday 14 July 2009 12:28:40 Chad Perrin wrote: At first glance, it looks like the iwi equivalent is dev.iwi.0.radio, where 1 is on and 0 is off. It won't let me set it to 0, though, claiming it's a read-only sysctl setting

Re: Automatic screen lock when leaving desk

2009-07-14 Thread Chad Perrin
away! -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: You can never entirely stop being what you once were. That's why it's important to be the right person today, and not put it off till tomorrow. pgpTOQ9RgOEGA.pgp Description: PGP signature

turning off the wireless network radio

2009-07-13 Thread Chad Perrin
) an Intel wireless adapter, with if_iwi.ko as my driver module. It's an Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection according to pciconf -lv. Thanks in advance. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Peter Norvig: Use the most natural notation available

Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-04 Thread Chad Perrin
was screwed gently with a chainsaw by the Ubuntu team. Of course, that's only almost tolerate, as you said. Even Debian annoys the crap out of me, now that I've gotten familiar enough with FreeBSD to realize what I was missing. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: Chomium on FreeBSD?

2009-06-29 Thread Chad Perrin
on an OS I quite dislike on the rare occasion I need to do cross-platform Web development testing. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Alan Perlis: LISP programmers know the value of everything and the cost of nothing. pgprTdIIlDWFh.pgp Description: PGP

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-24 Thread Chad Perrin
through the implications. I think the intent was to do away with /bin/ed and /rescue/vi in favor of /bin/vi -- not to do away with /bin/ed and /rescue/vi and replace them with nothing. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Alan Kay: I invented the term

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-24 Thread Chad Perrin
. On the other hand, I don't see any reason to refuse to offer an optional install of /bin/vi for those who prefer it and don't want to have to brute-force install it by manually copying it, thus eliminating relatively simple and easy upgrades when security concerns demand it. -- Chad Perrin [ original

Re: vim question...

2009-06-15 Thread Chad Perrin
the original vi is insufficient for my needs, but that Vim's development doesn't exactly match my preferences. FreeBSD's nvi seems to have moved in exactly the right direction from the original vi, but not far enough for my needs. As a result, I'm pretty much stuck with Vim for now. -- Chad Perrin

Re: vim question...

2009-06-15 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:41:34PM +0200, Paul B. Mahol wrote: Nvi is not Vi, and Vim is not Nvi clone. I thought that was self-evident. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Steve McConnell: Good code is its own best documentation. As you're about

Re: vim question...

2009-06-14 Thread Chad Perrin
, lo these many moons ago when the world was young and dinosaurs roamed the Earth. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth H. L. Mencken: Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard. pgpUEQPgDuua5

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 06:33:05AM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:13:47 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: If 0.111% of customers are unfortunate enough to end up with something entirely beyond their control causing something to happen that can be imagined

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-09 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 05:31:12PM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:55:49 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I try to learn from others' mistakes to reduce the likelihood that I will be forced to learn from my own. If you really want to learn from your own mistakes

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-08 Thread Chad Perrin
business practices. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Paul Graham: Object-oriented programming offers a sustainable way to write spaghetti code. pgp5SadjwUTiM.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
around concern five or six when I'm choosing a domain name registrar. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Robert Martin: Would you rather Test-First, or Debug-Later? pgpO4IKR0s0Ds.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
snowing users in with stupidity long enough to see if the problem goes away (even if only by the customer going away in annoyance). Clearly, individual customers aren't important to ISP management these days. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Martin

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
different from closed source software in the end, because there's no guarantee that the officially blessed binary wasn't compiled from code modified to do things that the source provided to you doesn't do. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Marvin Minsky

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
, such perfidy *can* occur even in open source software, but it's easier to discover and, I believe, less likely to occur because of that ease of discovery. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Malaclypse the Younger: 'Tis an ill wind that blows no minds

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
that is specifically suited primarily for a mouse-driven interface. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Scott McNealy: Microsoft is now talking about the digital nervous system. I guess I would be nervous if my system was built on their technology too. pgpaJY98wsm24.pgp

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
developers and vendors, where many such failings of secure development may go unnoticed due to the inability to determine exactly what's going on under the hood once you've noticed there's something wrong with the application. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
Microsoft does wrong with software development, of course. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Dennis Miller: Bill Gates is a monocle and a Persian Cat away from being the villain in a James Bond movie. pgphh77aCQmbh.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 04:06:18PM -0500, Gary Gatten wrote: Whatever happened to BeOS? Be went out of business. There have been a couple of clone projects to spring up since then. As mentioned, there's Haiku, the heir apparent to BeOS at this point. -- Chad Perrin [ original content

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
. Luckily, I can touch-type, because the temporary blindness induced by that site when the bright yellow irradiated my retinas still hasn't entirely faded. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Georg Hackl: American beer is the first successful attempt

Re: Can a Bourn Shell Script put itself in the background?

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
to run screen. screen bash (Press Control-A then d) (Logout from shell) (Log back in) screen -r . . . or use tmux instead of GNU Screen, if you like. I got the impression this question was about a script backgrounding itself, though -- possibly creating a daemon using bash. -- Chad

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
. so use text mode links/elinks :) Maybe I will, if I ever visit that site again. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Richard Pattis: If you cannot grok the overall structure of a program while taking a shower, e.g., with no external memory aids, you

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 09:17:17PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: 2009/6/5 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com: That's horrifying.  Remind me to never visit one of your Webpages. Luckily, I can touch-type, because the temporary blindness induced by that site when the bright yellow irradiated my

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
a moving works well. It works in a slow, tedious fashion, without much fine-grained control. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Jon Postel, RFC 761: [B]e conservative in what you do, be liberal in what you accept from others. pgpCqdKPaoNAv.pgp

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 02:33:28PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:46:21AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: The links browser's interface is crap, as is that of every other text console based browser I've ever encountered. Moving around within a page and selecting a link

Re: Open_Source

2009-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
that doesn't trust the user isn't trustworthy http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=362 The article is particular to encryption, of course, but the same priniciples are easily generalized to other software types. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: What's wrong with this picture?

2009-06-01 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 02:03:19AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: so you like to moderate me, being against moderation I think GT would like you to moderate yourself, as would I. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Niven: That's the thing

Re: On the need for moderated questions lists

2009-05-29 Thread Chad Perrin
-related problems because they don't have the time or resources to test on different OSes to nail down the points of departure between different OSes? Are they just SOL in your estimation? Should we tell them FOAD because FreeBSD is the only OS they use? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed

Re: On the need for moderated questions lists

2009-05-29 Thread Chad Perrin
perspectives -- since I'm sure we're assuming a strictly moderated list would be intended to help rather than merely control. So . . . you have the same choice in a dictatorship that you have in a benign dictatorship: leave. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: On the need for moderated questions lists

2009-05-29 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:00:49AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: So . . . you have the same choice in a dictatorship that you have in a benign dictatorship: leave. That should have said: So . . . you have the same choice in a moderated mailing list that you have in a benign dictatorship

Re: On the need for moderated questions lists

2009-05-29 Thread Chad Perrin
happens to have a Linux-based system handy. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth FreeBSD Secure Programming Guidelines: In fact, never ever use gets() or sprintf(), period. If you do - we will send evil dwarfs after you. pgpPsatTat470.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD

2009-05-28 Thread Chad Perrin
). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Paul Graham: SUVs are gross because they're the solution to a gross problem. (How to make minivans look more masculine.) pgpZJzyqE4d3s.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD

2009-05-28 Thread Chad Perrin
the question in the first place then? Maybe he's trolling. Look how successful he was at instigating a flame war. . . . -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Bill McKibben: The laws of Congress and the laws of physics have grown increasingly divergent

Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD

2009-05-28 Thread Chad Perrin
on the matter of what does and does not constitute opinion so that people who disdain what others observe but cannot necessarily prove will not find it as easy to dismiss things as mere opinion. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anonymous: Why do we never have

Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD

2009-05-28 Thread Chad Perrin
itself, and I'm happy being here. I can understand how some of the failures in the community to be a perfect ray of sunshine might put off some users, though, without immediately jumping to the conclusion that those users don't give a crap about the quality of the OS at all. -- Chad Perrin

Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD

2009-05-28 Thread Chad Perrin
that started this thread. Why do you relentlessly ignore not only the actual wording of the original email, but also the corrections offered by others? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Yasir Arafat on religious wars: You're basically killing each other

Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD

2009-05-28 Thread Chad Perrin
between the server machine and the ISP. The ISP is Comcast. Using the proxy, trying to reach freebsd.org just gives me a blank page and (Untitled) in the Firefox tab. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Niven: That's the thing about people who

Re: What is this forum for?

2009-05-28 Thread Chad Perrin
. Puchar flame war was in full swing. Please give it a little time. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] A: It reverses the normal flow of conversation. Q: What's wrong with top-posting? pgpVCgHmXNwT5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD

2009-05-28 Thread Chad Perrin
FreeBSD page then ssh -C -L 8000:69.147.83.33:80 yourhost and browse http://localhost:8000 it certainly work ;) I use the proxy to protect my entire browsing session when on a public network -- not just for accessing freebsd.org. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: What is this forum for?

2009-05-28 Thread Chad Perrin
by your own personal standards of off-topic (which appear to be significantly more strict than those of the list itself). Perhaps you shouldn't contribute to the problem. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Colleen McManus: still, if you cut through all

Re: How to move vi to /bin

2009-05-15 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:03:58PM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Chris Rees googlemail.com!utis...@agora.rdrop.com wrote: 2009/5/14 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:38:30AM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: I think the problem with that is he meant changing

Re: How to move vi to /bin

2009-05-14 Thread Chad Perrin
off using /bin/sh if you want a Bourne-type shell, or using toor with /usr/local/bin/bash. I've never understood the resistance to just use toor instead of root if one wants a nonstandard administrative shell. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth

Re: Disabling ssh timeouts?

2009-05-13 Thread Chad Perrin
in and re-attach to the screen session later to check up on it. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: Just don't create a file called -rf. pgpb30wbo0nP2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Disabling ssh timeouts?

2009-05-13 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 08:26:10AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: Also, thanks, everyone for the tip about screen. Don't forget tmux. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Colin McFadyen: Unix is not an 'a-ha' experience, it is more of a 'holy-shit

Re: Licensing

2009-05-11 Thread Chad Perrin
attitude. I wish you the best of luck in coming to an equitable and satisfying decision about licensing, and in future coding efforts. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Mike Maples, as quoted by James Gleick: My job is to get a fair share of the software

Re: Licensing

2009-05-08 Thread Chad Perrin
of a rejection of both copyright and copyleft. Check out the canonical explanation: http://copyfree.org/policy/ Both the BSD license and the Open Works License are copyfree licenses, as are a number of other popular and widely used licenses. I hope you get some value from my rambling. -- Chad

Re: is there a laptop ?

2009-03-18 Thread Chad Perrin
it sleeps and wakes reliably when I remember to do stuff in the right order, my uptime isn't limited by staying in one place. The uptime isn't very impressive right now, though, since I shut it down during a three day drive across the country a few days ago. -- Chad Perrin [ original content

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-16 Thread Chad Perrin
with the BSD license that requirement does not exist. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth The Financial Times: As an ultimate incentive to solve the millennium bug computer problem, China has ordered its airline executives to take a flight on January 1

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-16 Thread Chad Perrin
http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=622 + Choose the right licensing model for security software http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=610 -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpcJ3CbiK5F8.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: MT4

2009-03-10 Thread Chad Perrin
for an alternative? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: It's more important to be a good driver than to have seven feet of sponge rubber all around your car. pgpdhX5Ck0f8b.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: OT: The official stool for FreeBSD users?

2009-02-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:47:41AM -0900, Mel wrote: On Monday 23 February 2009 10:56:20 Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 08:18:16PM -0800, Charles Oppermann wrote: http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/11/07/i-dont-wanna-grow-up-im-a-big-kid-n ow/ I think it might for a great

Re: OT: The official stool for FreeBSD users?

2009-02-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 04:28:20PM -0900, Mel wrote: Ah that site. It wouldn't, my apologies. Oh -- you thought I was talking about the first site. Sorry, I guess I wasn't as clear about what I meant. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Colleen

Re: Unix disk utility similar to Victoria ?

2009-02-24 Thread Chad Perrin
/index.php?showtopic=129263 It's disappointing that I haven't seen any responses to this. I'm curious about the existence of such tools as well. Have you gotten any answers off-list that you can share with those of us on the list who might also like to know? -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed

Re: Command line video player

2009-02-24 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 04:03:15PM +0530, Mehul Ved wrote: Compile it on P1 90MHz? :( I can't install FreeBSD on any other PC. I can totally understand not wanting to compile software on a 90MHz Pentium 1. Why can't you install FreeBSD on any other PC? -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL

Re: hi

2009-02-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 06:01:54PM +0200, Reko Turja wrote: What I find ironic, is that the talent drifts either to fully commercial projects, or those which are licensed under BSD - and in many cases even both. What's so ironic about that? -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http

Re: hi

2009-02-23 Thread Chad Perrin
is split into two domains (core and ports) -- and thus have a place outside the FreeBSD handbook for the same, more-than-professional quality of documentation, but covering things we wouldn't be comfortable putting in the FreeBSD Handbook itself. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http

Re: hi

2009-02-23 Thread Chad Perrin
their foot off, however, then it's fine with me, as long as they know what they are doing when they point the cvs update gun backwards in time :) Wait -- what? Keeping it out of the core isn't good enough . . . ? -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall

Re: OT: The official stool for FreeBSD users?

2009-02-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 08:18:16PM -0800, Charles Oppermann wrote: http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/11/07/i-dont-wanna-grow-up-im-a-big-kid-now/ I think it might for a great official stool for FreeBSD as soon as the designer's site is usable without Flash. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed

Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-23 Thread Chad Perrin
. That's because /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins and /usr/local/browser_plugins aren't in your home directory. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: Perl is, in intent, a cleaned up and summarized version of that wonderful semi-natural language known as 'Unix

Re: hi

2009-02-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 04:09:51PM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:50:41 -0700 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: [snip] I can see both sides of this argument. Maybe we need to split up FreeBSD documentation into two domains, similarly to the way FreeBSD software is split

Re: hi

2009-02-23 Thread Chad Perrin
writing by pushing myself to use it for personal notes. Maybe we can wikify some of the stuff that is not really Handbook-material? I can definitely try doing that :) I'd definitely support such an effort. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anonymous C

Re: hi

2009-02-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 02:28:51AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:52:00 -0700, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Wait -- what? Keeping it out of the core isn't good enough . . . ? I'm sorry Chad. I lost you there. What 'core' are we talking about? I'm

Re: Top Posting Mania [was Re: FreeBSD 7.O compiled code is very slow]

2009-02-22 Thread Chad Perrin
quoting techniques still cause me some anguish. :) That's a pretty good idea. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Scott McNealy: Microsoft is now talking about the digital nervous system. I guess I would be nervous if my system was built on their technology too

Re: hi

2009-02-22 Thread Chad Perrin
have something valuable to contribute to the world of FreeBSD, with only a brief stop in the land of Gentoo/BSD. I guess time will tell. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Paul Graham: Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to build programs out

Re: questions

2009-02-22 Thread Chad Perrin
before. For example, I have seen significantly better framerates for World of Warcraft using Wine than using MS Windows XP, on the same machine. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Power corrupts. The command line corrupts absolutely. pgpMKMTzafoIF.pgp Description

Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 246, Issue 90

2009-02-12 Thread Chad Perrin
email arriving in your inbox separately. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Philip Machanick: caution: if you write code like this, immediately after you are fired the person assigned to maintaining your code after you leave will resign pgps7oCw3FLU6.pgp

Re: Weird problem with firefox

2009-02-11 Thread Chad Perrin
. If you were starting Firefox from the shell, you probably just needed to enter `rehash` to get it to recognize changes to what's in the execution path. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Sean Reifschneider: If java had real garbage-collection, it would delete

Re: apt of freebsd

2009-02-03 Thread Chad Perrin
of GNU userland as the best of the Debian world. Of course, you seem to question that yourself with that parenthesized question mark. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Sean Reifschneider: If java had real garbage-collection, it would delete most programs before

Re: KDE: What a monster!

2009-01-29 Thread Chad Perrin
that doesn't clutter up my workspace with a bunch of unnecessary cruft makes it more difficult to use the mouse when it's appropriate and helpful to do so. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: Just don't create a file called -rf. pgpiRqSOLh7Z7.pgp

Re: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the new President?

2009-01-25 Thread Chad Perrin
. . . if I'd known that, I might have considered voting for him. Maybe. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth FreeBSD Secure Programming Guidelines: In fact, never ever use gets() or sprintf(), period. If you do - we will send evil dwarfs after you. pgpA48MwRNnmK.pgp

Re: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the newPresident?

2009-01-25 Thread Chad Perrin
name me Jewish lover, well, I'm Asian, that means I'm a chink. But it's Mr. Chink to you, thank you very much. Technically, chink is a slur for Chinese -- not Asian in general. Just tryin' ta help. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Sterling Camden: The Church

Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-21 Thread Chad Perrin
system, then move them from the MS Windows system to the FreeBSD system and import them to Thunderbird there? -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Niccolo Machiavelli: It is a common failing of man not to take account of tempests during fair weather

Re: kvm switch

2009-01-20 Thread Chad Perrin
, it works great -- I just hit scroll lock twice, and it switches between a FreeBSD desktop tower and an MS Windows desktop tower. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Antony Jay: In corporate religions as in others, the heretic must be cast out not because

Re: Foiling MITM attacks on source and ports trees

2009-01-09 Thread Chad Perrin
sabotaged the authentication process this time. Authentication of an entity and the decision whether to trust that entity are two separate things, and should be treated as such. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anonymous C Professor: To work on a program

Re: Foiling MITM attacks on source and ports trees

2009-01-09 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 09:08:56PM -0800, Walt Pawley wrote: At 12:31 PM -0700 1/6/09, Chad Perrin wrote: On the other hand, I don't trust Verisign, either. What's to trust? If you pay them, you in. Exactly. That's why I -- as the guy sitting in front of the *browser* -- don't trust

Re: Foiling MITM attacks on source and ports trees

2009-01-06 Thread Chad Perrin
/~perspectives/index.html [2] http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p#571 -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anonymous: Why do we never have time to do it right, but always have time to do it over? pgpdWFBWpraoO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Foiling MITM attacks on source and ports trees

2009-01-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 11:11:52AM -0900, Mel wrote: On Tuesday 06 January 2009 10:31:26 Chad Perrin wrote: Out-of-band corroboration of a certificate's authenticity is kind of necessary to the security model of SSL/TLS. A self-signed certificate, in and of itself, is not really

Re: Portuguese accents

2009-01-05 Thread Chad Perrin
. how can I solve this? Is it impossible to list and also name files with accented letter? I believe it is possible to name files with unicode characters, but in general I'd advise against it. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Robert Martin: Would you

mplayer won't build

2008-12-31 Thread Chad Perrin
in flight? Okay . . . feel free to ignore the last two or three questions. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Henry Spencer: Those who don't understand Unix are doomed to reinvent it, poorly. pgpIk3ARCYz5c.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: mplayer won't build

2008-12-31 Thread Chad Perrin
wanted. It seems odd to me that there isn't an option for that in portinstall (ignoring -m for the moment). -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anne McClintock, University of Wisconsin: The decisions that really matter are made outside the democratic process

Re: Suitability question

2008-12-19 Thread Chad Perrin
, and configure it all to precise specifications, with a minimum of effort -- using FreeBSD itself. With PC-BSD, on the other hand, you won't even know what all is installed, and will have to spend a lot of time crawling through the system figuring out what to uninstall. -- Chad Perrin [ content

Re: Suitability question

2008-12-18 Thread Chad Perrin
for this idea? In general, I think FreeBSD is an *excellent* choice for this. You should consider specifics of your particular case, of course, but based on what you said I see no reason that FreeBSD shouldn't meet your needs exceedingly well. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http

Re: Suitability question

2008-12-18 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 04:46:24PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: Word processing won't be a problem, but internet 'toys' like Flash will be a problem, unless you use some wine+firefox workaround. What -- nspluginwrapper doesn't work any longer? -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Chad Perrin
under the same patent. Be very careful. Even in the US, where there's a presumption of innocence built into criminal law, the presumption of innocence doesn't apply in civil court. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Principle of Exclusion: The strength of any system

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Chad Perrin
, it might not be a *complete* disaster. of course it should be you to remove all my posts:) I wouldn't remove all your posts. You've said five or six things that were on-topic. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Friedrich Nietzche: Those who know

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Chad Perrin
haven't noticed, but it doesn't say about the FreeBSD Base System. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth H. L. Mencken: In this world of sin and sorrow, there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 08:14:10PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 19:21 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:39:26AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: Hence why I tend to send really green unix newbies to linux school than grind their teeth on FreeBSD straight up. Let

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Chad Perrin
the link to: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies sorry, i was sure it exist, but wasn't aware because i never wanted to subscribe to freebsd-newbies. Funny -- I read you suggesting that it might exist, and wanted to go sign up for it so I could help out. -- Chad Perrin

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Chad Perrin
/ | / \ -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: Just don't create a file called -rf. pgp2CdB7Ml0qs.pgp Description: PGP signature

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