Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-21 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tuesday 21 February 2012 12:26:03 Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: Hi, On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical -

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-21 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tuesday 21 February 2012 13:06:57 Robert Bonomi wrote: Erich Dollansky er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote: On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system, the machine has

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-21 Thread Robert Bonomi
Erich Dollansky er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote: On Tuesday 21 February 2012 13:06:57 Robert Bonomi wrote: Erich Dollansky er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote: On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: when I got my hands

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-21 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:53:10 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: The RK05 had one removable platter in a plastic housing. Please compare the images of the drive and the media. Does it look similar? Removable platters types EC 5269 in plastic cartridge:

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-21 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 06:39:00AM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote: AHA. probably an 'RL-05', cousin to the better known RK-05 I had a memory fault -- the RLs were the RL-01 and RL-02. 14 media, in a 'cartridge'. I -think- it was an 'SMD' interface 14 could be true as it

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-21 Thread perryh
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:53:10 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: The RK05 had one removable platter in a plastic housing. Please compare the images of the drive and the media. Does it look similar? Removable platters types EC 5269 in plastic cartridge:

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Saturday 18 February 2012 13:05:49 Lars Eighner wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Daniel Staal wrote: I've never seen anything listing the main reasons for having /home under /usr though. I figure there must be a decent reason why. Would anyone

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical - trying when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system, the machine has had several 5MB hard disks. I assume

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: Hi, On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical - trying when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system,

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Robert Bonomi
Erich Dollansky er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote: Hi, On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical - trying when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system,

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: Hi, On Tuesday 21 February 2012 12:26:03 Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: Hi, On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: There

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Doug Hardie
On 20 February 2012, at 22:20, Chip Camden wrote: I believe the 5MB removable were RL01. They also had a 10MB removable RL02, which we used for software distribution. We resold them to our customers at $170 each. yes, this sound familiar. The RL02 came later. I think that tapes were

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tuesday 21 February 2012 13:20:11 Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: On Tuesday 21 February 2012 12:26:03 Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: On 02/18/12

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-19 Thread parv
I vote for multiple partitions with user specified names (or at least be able to change /home mount point to something else) allocated space. in message 4f3f1817.7030...@herveybayaustralia.com.au, wrote Da Rock thusly... On 02/18/12 12:16, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of February 17, 2012

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:16:39 +1000, Da Rock wrote: On 02/18/12 12:16, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of February 17, 2012 11:46:23 PM +0100, Polytropon is alleged to have said: Well, to be honest, I never liked the old style default with /home being part of /usr. As I mentioned before, _my_

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:05:49 -0600 (CST), Lars Eighner wrote: It seems to me that partition and mount point are being confused to a degree. There is no reason what is mounted at /usr/home cannot be a separate partition as well as if it were mounted at root. I thought of this fact as such an

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 20:22, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:05:49 -0600 (CST), Lars Eighner wrote: It seems to me that partition and mount point are being confused to a degree. There is no reason what is mounted at /usr/home cannot be a separate partition as well as if it were mounted at root.

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 18/02/2012 10:44, Da Rock wrote: I have yet to try ZFS (lack of resources really), but when I can I will setup a SAN and it will be interesting to see how this works and I probably will use a single partition. But for the general filesystem I doubt a single partition will cut it (I could be

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:44:13 +1000, Da Rock wrote: BTW I was intending to put across the concept of /usr being user related - anything a user may need or use; as opposed to / for the system related stuff that keeps it running. Maybe I wasn't as clear as I had thought... :) There's lots of

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 21:23, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 18/02/2012 10:44, Da Rock wrote: I have yet to try ZFS (lack of resources really), but when I can I will setup a SAN and it will be interesting to see how this works and I probably will use a single partition. But for the general filesystem I doubt a

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 21:39, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:44:13 +1000, Da Rock wrote: BTW I was intending to put across the concept of /usr being user related - anything a user may need or use; as opposed to / for the system related stuff that keeps it running. Maybe I wasn't as clear as I

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Saturday 18 February 2012 13:05:49 Lars Eighner wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Daniel Staal wrote: I've never seen anything listing the main reasons for having /home under /usr though. I figure there must be a decent reason why. Would anyone care to enlighten me? What are the

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-18 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 18/02/2012 11:36, Da Rock wrote: If I may, can I ask a quick question: My main misgivings about ZFS have been speed, ram use, and up till about a year ago or so relative 'youth' (at least on FreeBSD). What would be the minimum ram you would use for a high disk use? And what would be

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 09:16:34PM -0500, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of February 17, 2012 11:46:23 PM +0100, Polytropon is alleged to have said: Well, to be honest, I never liked the old style default with /home being part of /usr. As I mentioned before, _my_ default style for separated

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Michael Sierchio
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Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Matthew Story
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.comwrote: man hier man 7 hier makes no mention of /home or /usr/home at all ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of February 18, 2012 2:46:32 PM -0800, Michael Sierchio is alleged to have said: man hier --As for the rest, it is mine. ...Doesn't mention /home (or /usr/home) once. ;) Pointing people to the docs which answers their question is good. But please make sure it actually answers their

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-18 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote: --As of February 18, 2012 2:46:32 PM -0800, Michael Sierchio is alleged to have said: man hier True, but /usr/... was a typical place to find users' home directories, since /usr is mounted when the system goes to

/usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-17 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of February 17, 2012 11:46:23 PM +0100, Polytropon is alleged to have said: Well, to be honest, I never liked the old style default with /home being part of /usr. As I mentioned before, _my_ default style for separated partitions include: / swap /tmp /var

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-17 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 12:16, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of February 17, 2012 11:46:23 PM +0100, Polytropon is alleged to have said: Well, to be honest, I never liked the old style default with /home being part of /usr. As I mentioned before, _my_ default style for separated partitions include: /

Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)

2012-02-17 Thread Lars Eighner
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of February 17, 2012 11:46:23 PM +0100, Polytropon is alleged to have said: Well, to be honest, I never liked the old style default with /home being part of /usr. As I mentioned before, _my_ default style for separated partitions include: