On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:14:22 +
Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote:
The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has
USB so should install using that instead of floppies.
Not true on a
On Dec 8, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:48:11 +1000, Da Rock
freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote:
On 12/08/10 11:26, Polytropon wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100, Julian H. Staceyj...@berklix.com
wrote:
My comments/
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:58:04 +0100
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
An example from my own practical use: I wanted to install
FreeBSD 4 on a laptop that didn't have network or CD-ROM.
I chose to boot from floppy, and then started the install
process via parallel cable (printer port) from a
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:04:16 +, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has USB
so should install using that instead of floppies.
That's not an argument, that's a dogma. :-)
Especially when you want to use AT style hardware, maybe
Bruce Cran wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100
Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote:
FreeBSD has no instal...@freebsd.org list. Should it ? Only a few
people tend to work on know the constraints of the installer,
many people over years have have made suggestions comments,
Polytropon wrote:
To: Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com
I added back lost
Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:46:29 +0100, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com
wrote:
Allow me a side question, but... what's wrong with ee? (Don't
get me wrong, I've been a
It's easy enough to find error-free floppy disks if you don't mind
paying for them: http://www.amazon.co.uk/b?ie=UTF8node=430460031 :)
Bruce Cran
Are you sure they're error-free? I think most users would prefer USB sticks.
The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:14:22 +
Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote:
The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has
USB so should install using that instead of floppies.
Not true on a very old computer (especially USB)
That's why I said the argument,
On 12/08/10 11:26, Polytropon wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100, Julian H. Staceyj...@berklix.com wrote:
My comments/ wish list
- One text mode (non bitmap graphical) browser:/usr/ports/www/lynx
The lynx browser, due to its special key handling, does not
appeal to
On 12/08/10 11:49, Chris Hill wrote:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
[ snip ]
- There are small clones of standard vi, with executables
no larger than ee, could replace ee.
I think ee is actually a good choice for this application. vi can be a
little frustrating for
On 12/08/10 21:27, Bruce Cran wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:14:22 +
Thomas Muellermueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote:
The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has
USB so should install using that instead of floppies.
Not true on a very old computer
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:48:11 +1000, Da Rock
freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote:
On 12/08/10 11:26, Polytropon wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100, Julian H. Staceyj...@berklix.com
wrote:
My comments/ wish list
- One text mode (non bitmap graphical)
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:31:26 +, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
There's a plan to replace sysinstall with pc-sysinstall, the
PCBSD installer in 9.0. Currently the backend has been committed and
people are working on a web interface frontend to allow people to do
installations via a
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 11:29:09AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote:
While installation and update via web browser makes sense as an option, it
must not be the only option. What if the user starts with a blank hard
drive, nothing installed? Then one needs to be able to install from CD, DVD
or
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 11:29:09 +
Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Otherwise, it would be theoretically possible to install FreeBSD from
a lot of floppies, but finding sufficient errorfree floppies would be
practically impossible. I remember I had a substantial percentage of
Bruce Cran wrote:
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 11:29:09AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote:
While installation and update via web browser makes sense as an option, it
must not be the only option. What if the user starts with a blank hard
drive, nothing installed? Then one needs to be able to
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100
Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote:
FreeBSD has no instal...@freebsd.org list. Should it ? Only a few
people tend to work on know the constraints of the installer,
many people over years have have made suggestions comments, would
it be more
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 11:29:09 +, Thomas Mueller
mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote:
I guess FreeBSD installation from floppies is no longer
supported because of the difficulty of fitting the kernel?
I think so, too. My interest is to be able to boot a
system that does not boot from CD or via
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote:
My comments/ wish list
- One text mode (non bitmap graphical) browser: /usr/ports/www/lynx
The lynx browser, due to its special key handling, does not
appeal to novice users. NO text mode browser gives a first
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
[ snip ]
- There are small clones of standard vi, with executables
no larger than ee, could replace ee.
I think ee is actually a good choice for this application. vi can be a
little frustrating for those who rarely use it, and it's
Is there any intent to modify, hopefully improve, the installer program
(sysinstall) for FreeBSD-9.0?
I noticed something on the freebsd-questions emailing list about a
pc-sysinstall, but downloaded a snapshot .iso of CURRENT-9.0 mainly to see what
was there, not planning to install; am
On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:09:00 +
Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Is there any intent to modify, hopefully improve, the installer
program (sysinstall) for FreeBSD-9.0?
There's a plan to replace sysinstall with pc-sysinstall, the
PCBSD installer in 9.0. Currently the backend
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:31:26 +, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
There's a plan to replace sysinstall with pc-sysinstall, the
PCBSD installer in 9.0. Currently the backend has been committed and
people are working on a web interface frontend to allow people to do
installations via a web
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 23:13:19 +0100
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
Does this imply that the installation requires running X
plus a web browser, or a hard to use text mode web browser?
Or is this intended to be used for remote installation only?
Will the installer therefore be unusable for
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