On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:17:16 -0400, Tom Worster f...@thefsb.org wrote:
I've no experience with VirtualBSD. But I can say that VBox comes with
host configs for FreeBSD 32 and 64 clients. Yesterday I fed the FreeBSD
8.2 RELEASE Disk 1 ISO into VBox and it installed very nicely. Network
even came
of stuff
like this away.
--
Peter Harrison
www.4harrisons.blogspot.com
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Subject: Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro
From: Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net
Date: 30/03/2011 18:12
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:32:29 -0700 (PDT)
four.harris...@googlemail.com four.harris...@googlemail.com
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:10:29 -0700 (PDT), four.harris...@googlemail.com
four.harris...@googlemail.com wrote:
I left Linux a while ago, but at that time compiling and
installing a new kernel on Red Hat or Slackware (to stick
within my experience) was significantly harder to do than
make
On 03/30/11 23:00, Polytropon wrote:
There is a project called VirtualBSD that developed a
FreeBSD system image that can be used with VirtualBox.
Nitpick: the web site says
VirtualBSD is a virtual appliance for VMware
Thanks for the pointer though, could be useful in encouraging others to
On 03/31/11 17:06, Arthur Chance wrote:
On 03/30/11 23:00, Polytropon wrote:
There is a project called VirtualBSD that developed a
FreeBSD system image that can be used with VirtualBox.
Nitpick: the web site says
VirtualBSD is a virtual appliance for VMware
Following myself up,
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:33:09 +0100, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote:
On 03/31/11 17:06, Arthur Chance wrote:
On 03/30/11 23:00, Polytropon wrote:
There is a project called VirtualBSD that developed a
FreeBSD system image that can be used with VirtualBox.
Nitpick: the web site
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:05:36 -0400, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:12:26 +0200
Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:12:23 -0400, Jerry
freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:32:29 -0700 (PDT)
On 3/31/11 1:10 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:33:09 +0100, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org
wrote:
On 03/31/11 17:06, Arthur Chance wrote:
On 03/30/11 23:00, Polytropon wrote:
There is a project called VirtualBSD that developed a
FreeBSD system image that can
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 02:09:17AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:56:14 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com
wrote:
Quoth Polytropon on Wednesday, 30 March 2011:
T: (a deep sigh while rolling his eyes) No, that's not the fuel,
that's the tachometer. It
Quoth Chad Perrin on Wednesday, 30 March 2011:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 02:09:17AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:56:14 -0700, Chip Camden
sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
Quoth Polytropon on Wednesday, 30 March 2011:
T: (a deep sigh while rolling his eyes) No,
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:45:27PM -0500, Jason Hsu wrote:
I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself
with a distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing,
email, word processing, etc.).
A word of caution -- as you have probably noticed in responses
message-
Subject: Easiest desktop BSD distro
From: Jason Hsu jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com
Date: 29/03/2011 21:14
I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a
distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing, email, word
processing, etc.).
But the challenge
--On March 30, 2011 9:49:02 AM -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com
wrote:
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:45:27PM -0500, Jason Hsu wrote:
I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself
with a distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing,
email, word processing,
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:32:29 -0700 (PDT)
four.harris...@googlemail.com four.harris...@googlemail.com
articulated:
Once you've scaled the learning curve, you will appreciate how easy
it is to achieve things with FreeBSD compared to other OS which
attempt to make things 'easy' for you (wireless
not be difficult.
--
Peter Harrison
www.4harrisons.blogspot.com
-original message-
Subject: Easiest desktop BSD distro
From: Jason Hsu jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com
Date: 29/03/2011 21:14
I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a
distro is to adopt it as my main
I only know FreeBSD so I can't recommend any other BSD as being easier.
And I don't use a windowing system on it. But I've an answer to a question
you didn't ask:
FreeBSD in VirtualBox a convenient way of learning. It saves a lot of
uninteresting messing around. And it allows me to save my
Polytropon wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:56:14 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com
wrote:
Quoth Polytropon on Wednesday, 30 March 2011:
T: (a deep sigh while rolling his eyes) No, that's not the fuel,
that's the tachometer. It is supposed to point at zero if the
car is not
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Chip Camden
sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
Quoth Polytropon on Wednesday, 30 March 2011:
T: (a deep sigh while rolling his eyes) No, that's not the fuel,
that's the tachometer. It is supposed to point at zero if the
car is not started. The fuel
Allow me to add something here:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:49:55 -0400, Tom Worster f...@thefsb.org wrote:
FreeBSD in VirtualBox a convenient way of learning. It saves a lot of
uninteresting messing around. And it allows me to save my project (by
saving VM state), get on with some other work and
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:12:23 -0400, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:32:29 -0700 (PDT)
four.harris...@googlemail.com four.harris...@googlemail.com
articulated:
Once you've scaled the learning curve, you will appreciate how easy
it is to achieve things with
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:45:23AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
Quoth Chad Perrin on Wednesday, 30 March 2011:
We were speaking in analogies here, where the car *is* the operating
system -- so I think if it said 1/0 it would be more accurate to
say the car would crash.
It's uncertain
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:41:54 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:45:23AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
Quoth Chad Perrin on Wednesday, 30 March 2011:
We were speaking in analogies here, where the car *is* the operating
system -- so I think if it said
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:57:45AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:41:54 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com
wrote:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:45:23AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
It's uncertain whether the car would crash, or run infinitely.
Mathematically, that
I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a
distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing, email, word
processing, etc.).
But the challenge of BSD have so far proven too much for me. It would take too
long to configure FreeBSD to my liking. I
-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hsu
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:45 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Easiest desktop BSD distro
I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a
distro is to adopt
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:45:27PM -0500, Jason Hsu wrote:
I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a
distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing, email, word
processing, etc.).
But the challenge of BSD have so far proven too much for me.
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:45:27PM -0500, Jason Hsu wrote:
I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a
distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing, email, word
processing, etc.).
But the challenge of BSD have so far proven too much for me.
So what do you recommend as my first desktop BSD distro? What desktop BSD
distro is so easy to use that even Paris Hilton or Jessica Chicken of the
Sea Simpson can handle it?
To each their own, but I wouldn't want a system that Paris Hilton could
handle any more than I'd want a vehicle that
On 30/03/2011, at 07:15, Chip Camden wrote:
So what do you recommend as my first desktop BSD distro? What desktop BSD
distro is so easy to use that even Paris Hilton or Jessica Chicken of the
Sea Simpson can handle it?
To each their own, but I wouldn't want a system that Paris Hilton
But the challenge of BSD have so far proven too much for me. It would take
too long to configure FreeBSD to my liking. I couldn't figure out what to
enter in GRUB to multi-boot Linux and BSD. I tried PC-BSD, GhostBSD, and
DragonflyBSD in VirtualBox. I've found PC-BSD agonizingly slow to
Quoth William Brown on Wednesday, 30 March 2011:
On 30/03/2011, at 07:15, Chip Camden wrote:
So what do you recommend as my first desktop BSD distro? What desktop BSD
distro is so easy to use that even Paris Hilton or Jessica Chicken of the
Sea Simpson can handle it?
To each
...I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a distro is to adopt
it as my main distro (for web browsing, email, word processing, etc.).
There is no distro in BSDworld. BSD family is complete operating system.
Linux distros are a combination of a kernel and all the tools necessary
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:23:48PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
Quoth William Brown on Wednesday, 30 March 2011:
On 30/03/2011, at 07:15, Chip Camden wrote:
So what do you recommend as my first desktop BSD distro? What desktop
BSD distro is so easy to use that even Paris Hilton or
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:45:27 -0500, Jason Hsu jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com wrote:
I want to learn BSD.
I may emphasize the word LEARN. You'll see why later on. :-)
I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a distro
is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing, email,
word
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:39:36 -0400, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:
Just a nit here -- I would think of BSD as less cluttered
rather than simpler.
The definition of simple is individual, it depends on
present knowledge and the ability of thinking (concluding,
deriving,
--On March 29, 2011 2:23:48 PM -0700 Chip Camden
sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
Quoth William Brown on Wednesday, 30 March 2011:
On 30/03/2011, at 07:15, Chip Camden wrote:
So what do you recommend as my first desktop BSD distro? What
desktop BSD distro is so easy to use that even
On Tue 29 Mar 2011 at 13:59:44 PDT Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:45:27PM -0500, Jason Hsu wrote:
I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing, email, word processing, etc.).
But the
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:43:47 -0500, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com
wrote:
It might even be useful to have an initial screen that offers options such
as Experienced User, Minimal Prompts, Familiar User, Additional Prompts
and First Time User, Walk me through it step by step.
Even
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:16:37 -0700, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net
wrote:
To really learn any operating system, you have to approach it on its own
terms and be willing to accept that it has its own way of doing things.
Its own idioms and paradigms. It has its own history of design
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:00:07 +0200
Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:39:36 -0400, Jerry McAllister
jerr...@msu.edu wrote:
Just a nit here -- I would think of BSD as less cluttered
rather than simpler.
The definition of simple is individual, it depends on
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:23:19 -0400, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
Your approach to the problem neglects to factor in each individual's own
level of expertise and desires.
I can just speak from my individual point of view. I do NOT
claim that my experiences and knowledge are universal.
Quoth Polytropon on Wednesday, 30 March 2011:
T: (a deep sigh while rolling his eyes) No, that's not the fuel,
that's the tachometer. It is supposed to point at zero if the
car is not started. The fuel indicator is usually to the left
and smaller that the tachometer, and it should
It's the same with computers. No matter what you want to do
with it, there IS something you need to learn, either BEFORE
you use it, or WHILE you're using it. With some simple means,
i. e. using the brain, reading, concluding, understanding,
THINKING, you're fine in this regards - because
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:56:14 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com
wrote:
Quoth Polytropon on Wednesday, 30 March 2011:
T: (a deep sigh while rolling his eyes) No, that's not the fuel,
that's the tachometer. It is supposed to point at zero if the
car is not started. The
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