On 22-9-2010 21:35, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On 22/09/2010 20:04:25, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
You're certainly not the only one liking CUPS. I long hesitated to use
it, but once I'd decided to do so, I wouldn't go back to lpr. No way.
It's very easy to set up and does a great job. CUPS is OK but
Personally, for bulk printing, and even more so for
intermittent printing (the kind where ink dries up and gets
tossed away when you use the printer once every blue moon),
most users would save a _LOT_ of money by looking at a laser
printer instead.
+1
Take a good look at
Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
If someone comes up with a working GDI printer emulation layer,
that would make a great port.
They already did, and it's already in ports.
It's (part of) wine.
Unfortunately it uses CUPS.
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On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
A) *THEY* developed the interface specifications. They license printer
manufacurers to build to it. They _would_ obejct if somebody used
their technology to compete against them.
B) As it is, to _use_ one of
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:27:05 -0700
David Brodbeck g...@gull.us articulated:
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Robert Bonomi
bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
A) *THEY* developed the interface specifications. They license
printer manufacurers to build to it. They _would_ obejct if
somebody
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Peter A. Giessel pgies...@mac.com wrote:
The question you are missing is *HOW* does MacOS X print to all these
cheap printers?
Lets take a couple of screen captures from Mac OS X.6 (Apple's latest
released
OS) with all current updates installed:
On 22-9-2010 20:40, David Brodbeck wrote:
OI may be the only person here who actually likes CUPS. Yes, it's
complicated from a software standpoint, but configuring it is much
less opaque.
You're certainly not the only one liking CUPS. I long hesitated to use
it, but once I'd decided to do
On 22/09/2010 20:04:25, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
On 22-9-2010 20:40, David Brodbeck wrote:
OI may be the only person here who actually likes CUPS. Yes, it's
complicated from a software standpoint, but configuring it is much
less opaque.
You're certainly not the only one liking CUPS. I long
On 2010/09/22 at 9:27, g...@gull.us (David Brodbeck) wrote:
If this were true, and there really were a big conspiracy on
Microsoft's part to make manufacturers only support Windows, then you
wouldn't see cheap printers that support both Windows and MacOS X. In
reality, such printers are pretty
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Sep 22 12:25:37 2010
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:27:05 -0700
From: David Brodbeck g...@gull.us
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Robert Bonomi bon
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:42:22 +0200
C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws articulated:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Robert Bonomi
bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
Adapting MS-Windows print drivers is not 'practical' either. A
windows print driver is embedd in the O/S KERNEL, with _system_
On 21.09.2010 13:37, Jerry wrote:
The bottom line is that installing and running a printer on a Window's
machine is usually far easier than on a *nix variation. Even sharing a
printer on a network in a Windows environment is simpler.
Actually ... no. Unless you are talking about the keep HP
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:16:16 +0200
Svein Skogen (Listmail account) svein-listm...@stillbilde.net
articulated:
On 21.09.2010 13:37, Jerry wrote:
The bottom line is that installing and running a printer on a
Window's machine is usually far easier than on a *nix variation.
Even sharing a
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:58:58 -0400
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:16:16 +0200
Svein Skogen (Listmail account) svein-listm...@stillbilde.net
articulated:
On 21.09.2010 13:37, Jerry wrote:
The bottom line is that installing and running a printer on a
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:42:22 +0200, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
wrote:
Is that really so? How about writing some emulation shim like ndis(4) for
winprinters? Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm not a Windows
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:58:58 -0400, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
The cheapest multi-function laser recommended by you is the Phaser
6128MFP, an obviously loss-loser. The next version is $1500. I can buy
a lot of ink for that. I agree that a laser printer is fine for a
business
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:37:22 -0400, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
The bottom line is that installing and running a printer on a Window's
machine is usually far easier than on a *nix variation. Even sharing a
printer on a network in a Windows environment is simpler.
But much more
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:16:21 -0700, Robert travelin...@cox.net wrote:
A couple of years ago I got very tired of buying ink cartridges. I
search and found the Samsung scx-4725fn for a very good price. Laser,
network, all-in-one. It is not color but that was not a requirement for
me.
Just
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:42:22 +0200, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
wrote:
Is that really so? How about writing some emulation shim like ndis(4)
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:36:00 +0200, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote:
At the moment there was a program (or any other kind of
facility) that makes Winprinters accessible by *ANY* OS (not
only FreeBSD, but maybe all BSDs and Linusi and Solaris and
who knows what else), MICROS~1 would
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:27 +0200
Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:36:00 +0200, C. P. Ghost
cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote:
At the moment there was a program (or any other kind of
facility) that makes Winprinters accessible by *ANY* OS (not
only FreeBSD, but
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:27 +0200
Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:36:00 +0200, C. P. Ghost
cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote:
At the moment there was a program (or any other kind of
I once used an inkjet printer and almost went broke keeping it fed with ink. I
found a refurbished Brother HL-2040 Laser printer at Tiger Direct for $89. It's
been running now for almost 3 years and I'm only on my second toner cartridge.
To be honest, we're all on a big paperless effort and I
I think conspiracy theories miss the point. The reason more printers
work on Windows than on FreeBSD is if you don't support Windows, you
can't sell printers to 92% of computer users. This is an extremely
powerful incentive to spend money on writing Windows drivers. The
financial incentive is
From cpgh...@cordula.ws Mon Sep 20 19:40:36 2010
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:42:22 +0200
Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer
From: C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws
To: Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7
From cpgh...@cordula.ws Tue Sep 21 12:34:21 2010
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:36:00 +0200
Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer
From: C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws
To: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
Cc: Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, C. P. Ghost wrote:
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
In that case, I would ask myself: Why hasn't it been done already?
If your assumption was right, it would already work. As it currently
does not work, I would check your assumption. :-)
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
Adapting MS-Windows print drivers is not 'practical' either. A windows
print driver is embedd in the O/S KERNEL, with _system_ calls_ (not
mere 'library' routines) that implement the 'device-dependant' rendering
Steven Friedrich free...@insightbb.com wrote:
Common Unix Printing System certainly sounds as if the intent
was to be the ONE thing that is used for printing. Whether
they did a good job of it is another question entirely :(
I think that you don't fully apreciate the task at hand. When
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon Sep 20 07:11:41 2010
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:20:52 -0700
From: per...@pluto.rain.com
To: free...@insightbb.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer
Steven Friedrich free
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:27:13 +0200
dan gl...@live.com articulated:
2 - HP Photosmart C3180.
Once I installed HPLIP and adjusted some permissions I used a hp sw
tool to update the CUPS printers' database (all with the __default__
8.1 kernel). I then Succesfully printed a test page and
On 19.09.2010 13:34, Jerry wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:27:13 +0200
dangl...@live.com articulated:
2 - HP Photosmart C3180.
Once I installed HPLIP and adjusted some permissions I used a hp sw
tool to update the CUPS printers' database (all with the __default__
8.1 kernel). I then Succesfully
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:50:32 +0200
dan gl...@live.com articulated:
On 19.09.2010 13:34, Jerry wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:27:13 +0200
dangl...@live.com articulated:
2 - HP Photosmart C3180.
Once I installed HPLIP and adjusted some permissions I used a hp sw
tool to update the CUPS
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Chabane HEMDANI hemdani2...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm computer science teacher at university of Tizi-ouzou in Algeria. I'm
using FreeBSD since 2007 when I discover it by chance when searching in
the Web something about Linux.
Since that date, I always invited and
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:10:45 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing, and that
does support ALL printers ...
Isn't that exactly what CUPS is supposed to be?
Obviously not. Look at the dependencies,
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:15:25 +0200
Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:10:45 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing, and that
does support ALL printers ...
Isn't
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:50:30 -0400, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:15:25 +0200
Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated:
Obviously not. Look at the dependencies, the bloat, and the
overall complicatedness of installing a printer. Also, the
documentation
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:50:30 -0400
From: Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net
To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer
You keep insisting that it is complicated; yet, you fail to
specifically state what it is that you are failing
On 17.09.2010 02:45, Chabane HEMDANI wrote:
I'm computer science teacher at university of Tizi-ouzou in Algeria. I'm
using FreeBSD since 2007 when I discover it by chance when searching in
the Web something about Linux.
Since that date, I always invited and recommended to my students to
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:10:45 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing,
and that does support ALL printers ...
Isn't that exactly what CUPS is supposed to be?
On Saturday 18 September 2010 6:09:57 pm per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:10:45 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing,
and that does support
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:09:57 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:10:45 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing,
and that does support
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:45:54 +0100
Chabane HEMDANI hemdani2...@gmail.com wrote:
I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the
web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups without
any success. I've an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:45:54 +0100
Chabane HEMDANI hemdani2...@gmail.com wrote:
I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the
web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups
without
any success. I've an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by
On 9/17/2010 2:14 AM, Peter wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:45:54 +0100
Chabane HEMDANIhemdani2...@gmail.com wrote:
I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the
web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups
without
any success. I've an HP Laser Jet
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 01:45:54AM +0100, Chabane HEMDANI wrote:
I'm computer science teacher at university of Tizi-ouzou in Algeria. I'm
using FreeBSD since 2007 when I discover it by chance when searching in
the Web something about Linux.
Since that date, I always invited and recommended
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Frank Shute wrote:
I'm not going to tell you how to print with CUPS as it's too
complicated and fragile for my liking.
Agreed.
Have you thought about using lpd(8)? If your printer can understand
Postscript (and I believe HP Laserjets can) then this can be a fairly
simple
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:10:56 +0100, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
I'm not going to tell you how to print with CUPS as it's too
complicated and fragile for my liking.
If you have a printer that understands at least SOME standards,
maybe you want to look at apsfilter instead of CUPS;
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 06:10:56PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 01:45:54AM +0100, Chabane HEMDANI wrote:
I'm computer science teacher at university of Tizi-ouzou in Algeria. I'm
using FreeBSD since 2007 when I discover it by chance when searching in
the Web something
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing, and that
does support ALL printers ...
Isn't that exactly what CUPS is supposed to be?
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I'm computer science teacher at university of Tizi-ouzou in Algeria. I'm
using FreeBSD since 2007 when I discover it by chance when searching in
the Web something about Linux.
Since that date, I always invited and recommended to my students to install
and use this magical and my favorite system.
Hello,
First things first, does cups see your printer ? Do you use lpradmin or
the web-interface for adding the printer ?
Second, did you try using http://foo2qpdl.rkkda.com/ for the driver ?
Third, can you post error logs ?
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