Re: Thin terminals for FreeBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Luyt
On Monday 07 August 2006 21:19, Nagy László wrote: I need to setup an environment where some users (10 to 20 employees) will use terminals to run programs. They need to run a few popular programs: thunderbird, firefox, adobe acrobat, openoffice and gaim. Jamie Zawinski has done such a thing

Re: Thin terminals for FreeBSD

2006-08-09 Thread Chris Shenton
cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm using EPIA 5000 mini-ATX boards with 512 MB RAM, diskless booting from an NFS server. They load X.org and everything else on demand. Compared to local HDDs, there's a small performance hit when loading programs [and those boards are not the fastest,

Re: Thin terminals for FreeBSD

2006-08-09 Thread Ansar Mohammed
the EPIA's look nice but cost too much. For comparable performance you can retrofit an old netier XL2000 on ebay with a laptop hard drive. They are small, fanless and come with an AMD 400-450 Mhz proc. They usually go for about 10$ on ebay. You need to get an internal laptop IDE cable and a

Re: Thin terminals for FreeBSD

2006-08-09 Thread Erik Nørgaard
Chris Shenton wrote: cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm using EPIA 5000 mini-ATX boards with 512 MB RAM, diskless booting from an NFS server. They load X.org and everything else on demand. Compared to local HDDs, there's a small performance hit when loading programs [and those boards are

Re: Thin terminals for FreeBSD

2006-08-09 Thread Chris Shenton
Ansar Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the EPIA's look nice but cost too much. For comparable performance you can retrofit an old netier XL2000 on ebay with a laptop hard drive. They are small, fanless and come with an AMD 400-450 Mhz proc. They usually go for about 10$ on ebay. You need

Re: Thin terminals for FreeBSD

2006-08-08 Thread Erik Norgaard
Nagy László wrote: Hello, I need to setup an environment where some users (10 to 20 employees) will use terminals to run programs. They need to run a few popular programs: thunderbird, firefox, adobe acrobat, openoffice and gaim. This site will be a customer service. We decided to reduce

Thin terminals for FreeBSD

2006-08-07 Thread Nagy László
Hello, I need to setup an environment where some users (10 to 20 employees) will use terminals to run programs. They need to run a few popular programs: thunderbird, firefox, adobe acrobat, openoffice and gaim. This site will be a customer service. We decided to reduce the costs by using

Re: Thin terminals for FreeBSD

2006-08-07 Thread Derek Ragona
In these days of commodity PC pricing running X-terminals isn't really cost effective. You'd be better off buying 10 - 20 identical PC's loading and configuring one, and then clone the drive for the rest. Using X-terminals will likely cost more per unit, and produce more load on the server,

Re: Thin terminals for FreeBSD

2006-08-07 Thread cpghost
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:19:30PM +0200, Nagy L?szl? wrote: I need to setup an environment where some users (10 to 20 employees) will use terminals to run programs. They need to run a few popular programs: thunderbird, firefox, adobe acrobat, openoffice and gaim. This I'm using EPIA 5000

Re: Thin terminals for FreeBSD

2006-08-07 Thread cpghost
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 01:12:02AM +0200, cpghost wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:19:30PM +0200, Nagy L?szl? wrote: - Are there any pitfalls that I need to be aware of? Locking over NFS is a bit buggy. I had some trouble running thunderbird and firefox, as they seem to hang on some

Re: Thin terminals for FreeBSD

2006-08-07 Thread cpghost
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 02:27:30PM -0500, Derek Ragona wrote: the only positive to X-terminals is in configuration and maintenance. ...and being totally silent! In an office not necessarily that important, but in some other environments, it's very convenient! -Derek -cpghost. --

Re: Thin terminals for FreeBSD

2006-08-07 Thread Olivier Nicole
- Is there a more cost-effective solution? (Something that I did not think of) We used to build (well my colleague did that) X terminals based on a thin configuration of freeBSD (must have been version 2 at that time) that we ran on diskless computers booting from floppy. At that time we ran