On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
Obviously, it is _not_ unlawful to 'even open' a file that is 'labelled as
private'.
Herr Ghost subsequently clarified that he meant 'opened by a person' -- which,
if _that_ is an accurate description of the law in
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
For example, if it is part of the _terms_of_emplyment_ -- which one
*agreed* to, by going to work there --that you (the employeee) give
permission for the company, or it's agents, to examine any file you
store
You cannot generate a hash without at a certain automated level opening the
file. If you can do that, couldn't you generate a hash of the first four
bytes to match with hashes of known magic numbers? If you can look at the
whole file, surely you can look at just the first four bytes.
not
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:05:27 -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote:
Go to hell. He wants to rename the files that are illegal
to ones that aren't.
It's not the file names that matter, it's the content.
Just assume that students at a university use a file server
to store pr0n although the terms of use
2011
Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
From: Ryan Colemanedi...@d3photography.com
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:05:27 -0500
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
To: Robert Bonomibon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011
On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
Wow wow !!! I did not want to start a flame war with my post ...
Things for me are clear :
In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
- find and delete the files that's all.
Bon courage then...
A file
On 07/19/2011 08:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
Wow wow !!! I did not want to start a flame war with my post ...
Things for me are clear :
In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
- find and delete the files
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote:
On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
- find and delete the files that's all.
Bon courage then...
A file can not be illegal per se, so you
On 07/19/2011 11:06 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriotm...@my.gd wrote:
On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
- find and delete the files that's all.
Bon courage then...
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011, C. P. Ghost wrote:
Speaking with my university sysadmin hat on: you're NOT allowed to
peek inside personal files of your users, UNLESS the user has waived
his/her rights to privacy by explicitly agreeing to the TOS and
there's legal language in the TOS that allows staff to
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Lars Eighner
luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011, C. P. Ghost wrote:
Speaking with my university sysadmin hat on: you're NOT allowed to
peek inside personal files of your users, UNLESS the user has waived
his/her rights to privacy by
On 7/19/11 12:08 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
To check the magic numbers, you don't need a hash. Just check the
magic numbers (where legally allowable). However, a magic number would
merely say: this is an MP3, this is a MPEG file etc...: it is just a
hint (and a very weak one at that) as to the
Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr writes:
Hi,
We'll see who will win ;-)
Check this :
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_de_l'informatique_en_France
The fact you can do something doesn't mean you're allowed to...
--
Moi je trouve qu'il est debile de vouloir detruir kekel ke chose
MG Ta
On 7/19/11 11:06 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote:
On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
- find and delete the files that's all.
Bon courage then...
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote:
On 7/19/11 11:06 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote:
On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:54:38 +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
Delete the files from your file server, next they'll swap them on
external drives and USB keys.
The only _working_ solution to get rid of the problem is
to get rid of the files in question. :-)
Maybe it's possible to change the terms
On 19/07/2011 12:54, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
On 7/19/11 11:06 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriotm...@my.gd wrote:
On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
- find and delete
: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On 7/19/11 11:06 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote:
On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
- find
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jerome Herman jher...@dichotomia.fr wrote:
The best way to block illegal download before they happen. I found that
closing most ports and requiring a login and password before giving access
to unknown websites works wonder. (The access to the website is not
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
The poorly written IT TOS of a company can never bypass the law,
regardless of anything you agreed to in your company's TOS.
male bovine excrement applies.
For example, if it is part of the _terms_of_emplyment_ --
From cpgh...@cordula.ws Tue Jul 19 07:26:51 2011
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:27:01 +0200
Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
From: C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws
To: Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On 7/19/11 11:06 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote:
On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
In France it's illegal and I
On Jul 19, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
Hey look, all your points were moot and easily rebuked.
And he just burped... don't feed the the trolls by calling them trolls.
Instead, call them Ecky Ecky Ecky F'tang F'tang Olé Biscuitbarrel.
On 7/19/11 3:49 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
Do you mean to suggest that an employee _cannot_ give permission to *anyone*
(whether it is the employer, or just a friend) to look at any file that is
categorized as 'private' ??
If they can give permission for 'someone' to look at a particular
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Jul 19 08:55:07 2011
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:54:32 +0200
From: Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On 7/19/11 1:57 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
From owner
On 7/19/11 5:20 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Jul 19 08:55:07 2011
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:54:32 +0200
From: Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On 7/19/11
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Jul 19 09:05:02 2011
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:03:55 +0200
From: Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On 7/19/11 3:49 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
Do you mean
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:45:50 +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
You claim that OP may lawfully open his users' private files.
Under your jurisdiction he might, under ours he shan't.
A way around such a situation is to PROHIBIT the users
(e. g. the employees of a company) to store private files
on
On 19 Jul 2011, at 18:25, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:45:50 +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
You claim that OP may lawfully open his users' private files.
Under your jurisdiction he might, under ours he shan't.
A way around such a situation is to PROHIBIT the
2011-07-19 13:57, Robert Bonomi skrev:
male bovine excrement applies.
Only in your jurisdiction.
Oh my. making back-ups is unlawful.
Yes
I guarantee you that _I_, as a system administrator, don't need a court
order to do such things. And, if you claim otherwise, you better be
Hello
Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the find command
in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ?
I need a tool that could inspect inside files because many users
rename those filename to inoffensive ones :-)
We are facing a legal problem so I'm a bit in the hurry to
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
Hello
Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the find command
in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ?
I need a tool that could inspect inside files because many users
rename those filename to inoffensive ones
Grep.
Ryan Coleman
On Jul 18, 2011, at 2:55, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
Hello
Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the find command
in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ?
I need a tool that could inspect inside files because many users
rename those
On 07/18/2011 10:10 AM, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
Hello
Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the find command
in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ?
I need a tool that could inspect inside files because many users
rename
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:38:22 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
On 07/18/2011 10:10 AM, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
Hello
Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the find command
in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ?
I
On 07/18/2011 10:45 AM, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:38:22 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
On 07/18/2011 10:10 AM, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
Hello
Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the find command
in order to detect video,
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 03:55:59 2011
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:55:58 +0200
From: Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On 07/18/2011 10:45 AM, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon
On 07/18/2011 11:44 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 03:55:59 2011
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:55:58 +0200
From: Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On 07/18
Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
snip specific suggestions re awk(1), file(1), find(1), grep(1), etc.
All well and good for locating files of a certain format and/or
with particular content, but it doesn't address the question of
whether a specific copy is legal, i.e. did the user
perryh == perryh per...@pluto.rain.com writes:
perryh All well and good for locating files of a certain format and/or
perryh with particular content, but it doesn't address the question of
perryh whether a specific copy is legal, i.e. did the user who put it
perryh there have the legal right to
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:01:53 -0700
From: per...@pluto.rain.com
Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
snip specific suggestions re awk(1), file(1), find(1), grep(1), etc.
All well and good for locating files
On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:01:53 -0700
From: per...@pluto.rain.com
Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
snip specific suggestions re awk(1), file(1), find(1
From edi...@d3photography.com Tue Jul 19 00:05:30 2011
Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
From: Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:05:27 -0500
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
To: Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
On Jul 18
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