Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity

2012-06-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Any server manufacturer who chooses to only support MS products is going to find they don't get much business from the academic market. such behaviour is even more stupid today as globally PC market is shrinking. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity

2012-06-15 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi Cordula, Good points you made. The sooner it's blocked the easier to block. *BSD, + *Linux, Solaris etc people could start contacting their local anti monopoly / anti free trade, government departments to give them time to look into the issues. If eg EU commision found it a monopolist

Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity

2012-06-15 Thread David Brodbeck
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:23 AM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: Only if they fully follow the spec. This is rather unlikely. Even today, there are still many broken DMI/SMBIOS tables out there that contain barely enough stuff for Windows to boot successfully. What makes you think

Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity

2012-06-14 Thread Dieter BSD
grarpamp writes: Plenty of millionaires out there now who are in tune with opensource who could startup, buy the same ARM/ATOM/etc chips, the same support chips, load Android and sell it to the masses. Would you please post a list of these millionaire FLOSS entrepreneurs? Thank you.

Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity

2012-06-14 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:17 AM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: I did say effectively. If people would actually read that chapter in the spec (minimally 27.5) they would find that they can: - Load a new PK without asking if in default SetupMode - If not in SetupMode, chainload a new PK

Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity

2012-06-08 Thread Julian H. Stacey
grarpamp wrote: Isn't there a lot of needless handwaving going on when the spec is pretty clear that installing your own complete PKI tree will all boil down to what is effectively a jumper on the motherboard? The hope for a jumper is insufficient. Cracking open laptops is no fun. It's not

Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity

2012-06-08 Thread grarpamp
Isn't there a lot of needless handwaving going on when the spec is pretty clear that installing your own complete PKI tree will all boil down to what is effectively a jumper on the motherboard? Hoping a jumper Might be under an easily unscrewable panel seems unlikely. I did say effectively.

Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity

2012-06-07 Thread Anonymous Remailer (austria)
Isn't there a lot of needless handwaving going on when the spec is pretty clear that installing your own complete PKI tree will all boil down to what is effectively a jumper on the motherboard? No, considering 99.99% of of current Windows victims can't even install a fresh copy of Windows.

UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity

2012-06-06 Thread grarpamp
Isn't there a lot of needless handwaving going on when the spec is pretty clear that installing your own complete PKI tree will all boil down to what is effectively a jumper on the motherboard? First, some sanity... Users could fully utilize the UEFI Secure Boot hardware by say: - Using

Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity

2012-06-06 Thread Kurt Buff
Thank you for this. I didn't realize that a simple (somewhat technical) question asked in all innocence would generate so much flammage. Kurt On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:13 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't there a lot of needless handwaving going on when the spec is pretty clear that