On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Edward M eam1edw...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/10/2012 03:45 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote:
Regarding Nemeth's I am undecided between the 4th (Unix Linux) or
the 3rd. Please advise.
i purchased the third edition because I took a look in the 4th the table
of
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Wed, 9 May 2012 09:30:37 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Erich Dollansky
er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote:
For your recommendation above, what are the advantages or differences
of slicing
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 06:29:05PM -0700, Edward M wrote:
On 05/10/2012 03:45 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote:
Regarding Nemeth's I am undecided between the 4th (Unix Linux) or
the 3rd. Please advise.
i purchased the third edition because I took a look in the 4th
the table of contents
On 05/11/2012 10:47 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
Is there something else I should try to find in the index or table of
contents that would be in the third edition but not the fourth? Can you
give me some examples of the sorts of things you'd expect to find in the
table of contents that is lacking in
On 05/11/2012 12:11 PM, Edward M wrote:
So far I think I found a few that may make a difference. According
to the table of contents in the 4th edition in the chapter called
Booting and shuting down it
only shows entries for: red hat, HP-UX, AIX, SUSE,Ubuntu. However
in the third
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:11:48PM -0700, Edward M wrote:
So far I think I found a few that may make a difference.
According to the table of contents in the 4th edition in the
chapter called Booting and shuting down it
only shows entries for: red hat, HP-UX, AIX, SUSE,Ubuntu. However
On 05/11/2012 05:18 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
I appreciate the time you put into this.
It was no problem at all:-)
had fun comparing.
Now that I'm free and have more time I went over the 3rd edition
table of contents and found a few instances
that mentions FreeBSD. In chapter Adding
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
[...]
Reading _both_ of McKusick's Design of .. books, and the 'Unix System
Admininstration Handbook', by Nemeth, et al. is a good _start_.
I just bought the FreeBSD one only unless there is a reason I should
On 05/10/2012 03:45 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote:
Regarding Nemeth's I am undecided between the 4th (Unix Linux) or
the 3rd. Please advise.
i purchased the third edition because I took a look in the 4th the
table of contents
and it appears anything FreeBSD related was remove and
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
wrote:
[...]
One comment: for 'defensive' purposes it would be useful to break ad6 up
into two slices, putting 'basejail' in it's own slice. Then,
Hi,
On Wednesday 09 May 2012 18:57:06 Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
wrote:
[...]
One comment: for 'defensive' purposes it would be useful to break
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Erich Dollansky
er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote:
Hi,
On Wednesday 09 May 2012 18:57:06 Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
On Wed, 9 May 2012 09:30:37 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Erich Dollansky
er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote:
For your recommendation above, what are the advantages or differences
of slicing the disk versus partitioning on a single slice?
it could be a
Hi,
On Wednesday 09 May 2012 20:30:37 Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Erich Dollansky
er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote:
Hi,
On Wednesday 09 May 2012 18:57:06 Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
On Thu,
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Jerome Herman jher...@dichotomia.fr wrote:
[...]
I must admit that Robert Bonomi tone was highly insulting for this list, and
though I completely condemn the form of his post, I cannot say I disagree
with the content.
I disagree with both the form and the
Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
[ megasnip ]
Things to investigate :
- When was the last time this box was rebooted normally ? Did it went fine ?
After I moved the jails to the right place I archived the jails with
ezjail-admin and rebooted the server several times, and everything
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
devfs on /usr/jails/cmm-php52-1/dev (devfs, local, multilabel)
...
/usr/jails/basejail on /usr/jails/cmm-php52-1/basejail (nullfs, local,
read-only)
fdescfs on /usr/jails/cmm-php52-1/dev/fd (fdescfs)
procfs on /usr/jails/cmm-php52-1/proc (procfs,
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
[ megasnip ]
Things to investigate :
- When was the last time this box was rebooted normally ? Did it went fine
?
After I moved the jails to the right place I archived
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:05 PM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
devfs on /usr/jails/cmm-php52-1/dev (devfs, local, multilabel)
...
/usr/jails/basejail on /usr/jails/cmm-php52-1/basejail (nullfs, local,
read-only)
fdescfs on
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
I have no idea, but cmm-php52-1 is in fact the problematic jail with
the MySQL problem.
Could you please include displays of
1. your troubled machine's
$ cat /etc/fstab
Note: you already showed us 'mount' output.
2. your other trouble-free
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:40 PM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
I have no idea, but cmm-php52-1 is in fact the problematic jail with
the MySQL problem.
Could you please include displays of
1. your troubled machine's
$ cat /etc/fstab
Note:
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
OK. There is this anomaly in your troubled jail.
Because I have not been familiar with ezjail so I am learning it now as we go.
I will suggest to you some steps by intuition, and you have to judge for both
of us how to do it and what's appropriate.
Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:
On 30 April 2012 07:36, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
A competennt, not stupid, sysadmin would know these things. And not
'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such
nonsense questions.
A competent
On 04/30/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
Reading_both_ of McKusick's Design of .. books, and the 'Unix System
Admininstration Handbook', by Nemeth, et al. is a good_start_.
Having a bunch of the books from O'Reilley Assoc. (http://www.ora.com),
especially for 'standard' tools that you
On 05/01/2012 06:43 AM, Polytropon wrote:
Except buying (good) books, you can also search for
articles on the web. For example, A Fast File System
for UNIX by M. K. McKusick is very interesting (at
least it was for me when I lost all my important data).
Some fs-related articles here:
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 12:58:10AM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote:
Reading _both_ of McKusick's Design of .. books, and the 'Unix System
Admininstration Handbook', by Nemeth, et al. is a good _start_.
Both? I'm aware of at least three (FreeBSD, 4.3BSD, and 4.4BSD) that
are probably within the
Hi,
On Tuesday 01 May 2012 20:43:43 Polytropon wrote:
On Tue, 01 May 2012 00:37:51 -0700, Edward M wrote:
On 04/30/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
Reading_both_ of McKusick's Design of .. books, and the 'Unix System
Admininstration Handbook', by Nemeth, et al. is a good_start_.
Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote:
On Monday 30 April 2012 02:02:41 jb wrote:
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
Back to theory on how the http-proxy jail 'swallowed' all the other
jails including the basejail.
A
Hi,
On Monday 30 April 2012 18:36:08 Robert Bonomi wrote:
Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
That simply *ISN'T* going to happen -- not without a -lot- more evidence
than any individual can provide from a single =unrepeadable= incident.
ok, I am not the original poster but let me tell
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote:
On Monday 30 April 2012 02:02:41 jb wrote:
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
[...]
A competennt, not
On 04/30/2012 08:38 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote:
just not very helpful or fun. This attitude will get
He is helping,you need to learn how UFS, jails, nullfs,
journaling, disk I/O and other stuff work.
I have been following this thread and i must admit I also need to
learn more on
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Erich Dollansky
erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
Hi,
On Monday 30 April 2012 18:36:08 Robert Bonomi wrote:
Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
That simply *ISN'T* going to happen -- not without a -lot- more evidence
than any individual can provide from a
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Edward M eam1edw...@gmail.com wrote:
On 04/30/2012 08:38 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote:
just not very helpful or fun. This attitude will get
He is helping,you need to learn how UFS, jails, nullfs, journaling, disk
I/O and other stuff work.
I have been
On 30 April 2012 07:36, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
A competennt, not stupid, sysadmin would know these things. And not
'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such
nonsense questions.
A competent sysadmin would ask questions when they don't know the
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:
On 30 April 2012 07:36, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
A competennt, not stupid, sysadmin would know these things. And not
'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such
nonsense
On 04/30/2012 10:22 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote:
Oh, please! He's not helping anyone. He's just being an obnoxious
prick that thinks that by pointing out a lot of technical blabber and
some cheap philosophical posé
I guess i was going according to the fact that i have followed his
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
If you have really followed the thread, all I have done is try to find
some explanation for a strange behavior of the system under normal
use. It hung, and some directories were moved, period. I have posted
some ideas to share with other people
Quoth Eitan Adler on Monday, 30 April 2012:
On 30 April 2012 07:36, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
A competennt, not stupid, sysadmin would know these things. And not
'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such
nonsense questions.
A competent
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:57 PM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
If you have really followed the thread, all I have done is try to find
some explanation for a strange behavior of the system under normal
use. It hung, and some directories were moved,
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
Thanks for pointing a plausible cause. What I have done so far is
limit the offending jail to a specific cpuset and I wanted to add
another disk to avoid contention with other jails. MySQL not only
consumes the whole CPUs but also limits the whole
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:23:40 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote:
On 30 April 2012 07:36, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
A competennt, not stupid, sysadmin would know these things. And not
'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such
nonsense questions.
A
On 30/04/2012 19:23, Eitan Adler wrote:
On 30 April 2012 07:36, Robert Bonomibon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
A competennt, not stupid, sysadmin would know these things. And not
'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such
nonsense questions.
A competent sysadmin
Hi,
On Monday 30 April 2012 22:38:13 Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
wrote:
A competennt, not stupid, sysadmin would know these things. And not
'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such
nonsense
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:26:50 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
3) the directories were moved at reboot by journal recovery,
fsck or something else
I think it's *extremely* unlikely that fsck was involved, because
it just doesn't do things like
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:26:50 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
3) the directories were moved at reboot by journal recovery,
fsck or something else
I think it's *extremely* unlikely
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
And there was a log of a couple of ftp connections the same day this
happened, the ONLY 3 messages before the reboot at about 6 pm and they
were NOT from any of our customers. Here are the log entries:
Apr 27 05:54:37 nune ftp.proxy[2726]:
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:15 PM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
And there was a log of a couple of ftp connections the same day this
happened, the ONLY 3 messages before the reboot at about 6 pm and they
were NOT from any of our customers. Here
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
What you should do right now is to get some recent general or security
cd/dvd
with chkrootkit and rkhunter and run them from that external read-only
media.
I would also suggest that you look over config files of all packages
involved.
Hi,
On Monday 30 April 2012 02:02:41 jb wrote:
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
What you should do right now is to get some recent general or security
cd/dvd
with chkrootkit and rkhunter and run them from that external read-only
media.
I would also suggest that
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Erich Dollansky
er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote:
Hi,
On Monday 30 April 2012 02:02:41 jb wrote:
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
...
What you should do right now is to get some recent general or security
cd/dvd
with chkrootkit and
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:43 AM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
All the jails wound up in the /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the only
surviving jail which is the http proxy to all the other jails.
Right before the server crashed I noticed MySQL at 100% o several CPUs
and
I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator,
the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to the
/usr/local/etc/apache22 of the single that survived at the top level.
I'm thinking something between mount, EzJail, the journal and the way
MySQL created a
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator,
the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to the
/usr/local/etc/apache22 of the single that survived at the top
Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator,
the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to the
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi
bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator,
the only
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi
bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
I
Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi
bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
After a little more research, ___it it NOT unlikely at all___ that
under high distress and a hard boot, UFS could have
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi
bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
After a little more research, ___it it NOT
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:52:02 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
wrote:
Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi
bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:52:02 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
wrote:
Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM,
On 28/04/2012 19:52, Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomibon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
Alejandro Imassaim...@yabarana.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi
bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
Alejandro Imassaim...@yabarana.com wrote:
On 04/28/2012 11:16 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote:
That is what worries me, is that it wasn't just some random bit or
cosmic ray, but the potential of happening again. I am not so sure
that it is*impossible* that a jail could affect other jails with
EzJail.
Sorry I'm late to the party. How
Hi,
On Saturday 28 April 2012 20:15:25 Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator,
the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to the
Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
3) the directories were moved at reboot by journal recovery,
fsck or something else
I think it's *extremely* unlikely that fsck was involved, because
it just doesn't do things like that. It might move an orphaned
directory (or file) to lost+found, but
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Erich Dollansky
er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote:
Hi,
On Saturday 28 April 2012 20:15:25 Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:26 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
[...]
Any chance that your base system -- rather than one of the jails --
has somehow been cracked; maybe even that the cracker precipitated
the crash? It might be wise to restore the whole
Hi,
On Sunday 29 April 2012 08:58:17 Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Erich Dollansky
er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote:
On Saturday 28 April 2012 20:15:25 Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Erich Dollansky
erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
Hi,
On Sunday 29 April 2012 08:58:17 Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Erich Dollansky
er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote:
[...]
Hi Erich, thanks for your reply.
I don't know
Hi folks,
We had a server crash and required a hard reboot. The system is on one
disk and another disc mounts /usr/jails and everything runs in jails,
pristine base system, and the base system is working perfectly.
The second volume, the one with the jails mounted but every jail
directory
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
Hi folks,
We had a server crash and required a hard reboot. The system is on one
disk and another disc mounts /usr/jails and everything runs in jails,
pristine base system, and the base system is working perfectly.
Hi,
On Saturday 28 April 2012 09:33:47 Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
We had a server crash and required a hard reboot. The system is on one
disk and another disc mounts /usr/jails and everything runs in jails,
pristine
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Erich Dollansky
er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote:
Hi,
On Saturday 28 April 2012 09:33:47 Alejandro Imass wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote:
We had a server crash and required a hard reboot. The system is
something. I unmounted the drive and ran fsck and reported no
problems. df shows the data being use so where is the data??
your data is here as df shown usage and fsck see no errors. most probably
root directory of that volume got corrupted and subdirs were found and put
in lost+found
All the jails wound up in the /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the only
surviving jail which is the http proxy to all the other jails.
Right before the server crashed I noticed MySQL at 100% o several CPUs
and the server was on it's knees, so I'm wondering was this an
attack? is it possible that
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