i guess this is kind of interesting and relating to the subject, at
least i have found it a good read : http://www.over-yonder.net/
~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php
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David Schulz wrote:
i guess this is kind of interesting and relating to the subject, at
least i have found it a good read :
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php
That's been around the list at least a few times since
yeah. just trying to please ya...
On Oct 24, 2006, at 10:15 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
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Simon Gao wrote:
Robert Huff wrote:
Jeff Mohler writes:
Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well.
Linux is closer to the bleeding edge;
yeah the ports make me fell in love with FreeBSD, the only thing that came
close to FreeBSD ports is the gentoo portage, note came close but not
really at par.
yeah, portage wasn't bad, but it wasn't as clean as ports either. More
errors, more fixing.
On 2006-10-16 10:45, Simon Gao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly.
All I was told is that I need to wipe them out and reinstall. However,
this is not the case with Gentoo Linux. With
Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
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Jeff Mohler writes:
Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well.
Linux is closer to the bleeding edge; always remember that
blood will usually be yours.
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:13:05 -0700, Jeff Mohler wrote
Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
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Jim Stapleton wrote:
yeah the ports make me fell in love with FreeBSD, the only thing that
came
close to FreeBSD ports is the gentoo portage, note came close but not
really at par.
yeah, portage wasn't bad, but it wasn't as clean as ports either. More
errors, more fixing.
That's primarily
Robert Huff wrote:
Jeff Mohler writes:
Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well.
Linux is closer to the bleeding edge; always remember that
blood will usually be yours.
Also, I'm not sure when you guys tried Gentoo, but as of late (within
the past ~1 year), the quality of the packages and system as an OS has
improved quite a bit, in the sense that many stable items now install
and work properly in the OS. Another off-topic comment I admit, but I
thought it
Nathan Vidican wrote:
In one word... stability. Seriously, it's matured better than linux. Based
on a codebase tested and depended upon for a lot longer than linux has been
around. BSD is here to stay, even if linux is becoming more mainstream.
Simply because it works, and has worked for
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 09:19:27AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
I'd like to see portage in FBSD though, since ruby is pretty kludgy.
You'd like to port a knockoff of ports to a system that has ports?
(also, not sure what you're referring to with your 'ruby' comment.)
In my experience, people
On 15/10/06 23:26, William Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay.
I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is
running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my
USB card reader and open the pictures from my digital camera in Gimp.
I can browse the
Raymond Pasco wrote:
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 09:19:27AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
I'd like to see portage in FBSD though, since ruby is pretty kludgy.
You'd like to port a knockoff of ports to a system that has ports?
(also, not sure what you're referring to with your 'ruby'
Jim Stapleton wrote:
Also, I'm not sure when you guys tried Gentoo, but as of late (within
the past ~1 year), the quality of the packages and system as an OS has
improved quite a bit, in the sense that many stable items now install
and work properly in the OS. Another off-topic comment I admit,
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 10:28:40AM -0700, Simon Gao wrote:
Even though there are many Linux distributions, but Linux core pacakges
are the mostly the same. The differences are mainly in window manager
and GUI applications. No matter which Linux distribution, kernel 2.6.16
is always the same.
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 10:28:40AM -0700, Simon Gao wrote:
Even though there are many Linux distributions, but Linux core pacakges
are the mostly the same. The differences are mainly in window manager
and GUI applications. No matter which Linux distribution, kernel 2.6.16
is always the same.
On 2006/10/17 14:48, Girish Venkatachalam seems to have typed:
But there is no gainsaying the fact that at least my hardware is
supported albeit buggily or ineffectively...
I don't mean to be rude, but if hardware support is your only criteria,
why not just run Windows? If you don't care that
On 10/17/06, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
This is probably true.
yes it's true linux has support for more devices than FreeBSD and that's why
i think we got to be heard, install this nifty app called bsdstats
On 2006-10-18 08:37, jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/17/06, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
This is probably true.
yes it's true linux has support for more devices than FreeBSD
and that's why i think we
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:02:26PM -0800, Peter A. Giessel wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but if hardware support is your only criteria,
why not just run Windows? If you don't care that its buggy or
ineffective, and you don't want to check that it is supported before you
buy it, you just
On 10/16/06, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Linux has iSCSI...which hands Fbsd a real beating in the server space.
I work on projects at more customers than I can keep track of that
-have- to use Linux in the middle of Fbsd farms just because of the
amazing lack of iscsi support.
Linux
That was after I left Netapp for a spell (and later came back once the
vacation ran out) and it was supported before then by _something_
linux.
That was fall of 03.
Not trying to debate..just it'll still be 08 before it's likely to be
universally supported.
On 10/16/06, Alexandre Vieira
On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 15:26 -0700, William Tracy wrote:
I even compiled my own kernel so that
I'm all 1337. :-)
What does this mean?
So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD
can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back.
I would think if you spend enough time
I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with
Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much,
you can always
All I was told is that I need to wipe them out and reinstall.
i would recommend that you change the people who you are asking your
technical questions to. i personally tend to get really upset when
someone tells me one thing, then thru my own research, i find out that
they didnt know shit from
On Oct 16, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Simon Gao wrote:
I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people
how to
upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case
with
Gentoo Linux.
It's not the
At 01:45 PM 10/16/2006, Simon Gao wrote:
I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with
Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version
Simon Gao wrote:
Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
So???
What's so compelling about that?
BSD has a Dever little Clevil... Oops! I mean a Clever little Devil.
...and all that Linux has, is that obviously intoxicated Penguin.
Daemon is a gas, whereas Tux is
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Jeff Palmer wrote:
At 01:45 PM 10/16/2006, Simon Gao wrote:
I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
need to wipe them out and reinstall. However,
Jeff Palmer writes:
Whoever gave you the 'wipe and reinstall' advice for the 5.x to 6.x
migration was insane.
Need is the wrong word; there are plenty of people who have
upgraded across major release boundaries to prove the contrary.
Are there reasons to wipe and reinstall?
Well, thanks for all the replies. I didn't mean to rub anybody the
wrong way, and if I did, I'm sorry. :-P
Up until now, I've basically been running FreeBSD more or less like
just another Linux distro, and was beginning to wonder if I was really
missing out on something by doing that. That, and
On Monday October 16, 2006 at 02:00:57 (PM) Jonathan Horne wrote:
didnt know shit from shinola.
I haven't heard that since I was a kid. Just in case someone does not
know where the saying originated from:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/114000.html
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It is not the OS's job
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:45:55AM -0700, Simon Gao wrote:
I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with
Gentoo Linux. With
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 01:38:59PM -0700, William Tracy wrote:
Well, thanks for all the replies. I didn't mean to rub anybody the
wrong way, and if I did, I'm sorry. :-P
Up until now, I've basically been running FreeBSD more or less like
just another Linux distro, and was beginning to wonder
I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with
Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter that much,
you can
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 05:41:31PM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote:
I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with
Gentoo Linux.
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:38:59 -0700
William Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the record, I really, really, like Debian (and now Ubuntu). I
understand that there are packages that allow the Debian packaging
system to run on top of the FreeBSD kernel, and I'll definitely have
try that out
Jim Stapleton wrote:
I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly. All I was told is that I
need to wipe them out and reinstall. However, this is not the case with
Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does not matter
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William Tracy wrote:
So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD
can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back.
I like the separation of the complete OS and third part software in
Ports Collection. I love the ability to
No offense to those who swear by it (and I know this is a bit
off-topic), but genkernel is shit. It's kernel compiling for people who
are afraid of forgetting make commands..
-Garrett
I agree, but since I couldn't get a decent custom kernel booting, that
was my only option.
And speaking of
Jim Stapleton wrote:
No offense to those who swear by it (and I know this is a bit
off-topic), but genkernel is shit. It's kernel compiling for people who
are afraid of forgetting make commands..
-Garrett
I agree, but since I couldn't get a decent custom kernel booting, that
was my only
Anders Gulden Olstad writes:
I love the ability to upgrade from one major release to
another using source upgrade - without doing a complete
reinstall, as with the Linux distros I've used.
It is worth noting that at least once - I think it was 3.x -
4,0 - this was not the
Ok, make that 3: Ports
I really don't miss rpm hell.
yeah the ports make me fell in love with FreeBSD, the only thing that came
close to FreeBSD ports is the gentoo portage, note came close but not
really at par.
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Okay.
I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is
running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my
USB card reader and open the pictures from my digital camera in Gimp.
I can browse the web in Firefox. I even compiled my own kernel so that
I'm all
William Tracy wrote:
[snip]
So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD
can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back.
What's so compelling about Linux?
At least, tell us which distribution you are talking about and how and
why FreeBSD does not seem very impressive
On 10/15/06, William Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay.
I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is
running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my
USB card reader and open the pictures from my digital camera in Gimp.
I can browse the web in
On Sunday 15 October 2006 17:26, William Tracy wrote:
Okay.
I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is
running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my
USB card reader and open the pictures from my digital camera in Gimp.
I can browse the web
Well, in my case:
- No matter what method I use to install packages in Linux (Apt-Get,
Yum, Deb, RPM, and to a much lesser extent, Emerge, and to a *MUCH*
greater extent src tar.gz's), I tend to have a lot more trouble
getting installs to finish than with BSD in ports.
- The FreeBSD community
On 10/15/06, Joao Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/15/06, William Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay.
I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is
running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my
USB card reader and open the pictures from
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 03:26:02PM -0700, William Tracy wrote:
Okay.
I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is
running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my
USB card reader and open the pictures from my digital camera in Gimp.
I can
--On October 15, 2006 3:26:02 PM -0700 William Tracy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD
can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back.
Well, let's see. As a server, I have worked with Windows, Solaris,
Gentoo, RedHat, Fedora,
On 10/15/06, William Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD
can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back.
There's already been plenty of answers with which I agree. The bulk of my
professional life was with Solaris, with some
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 12:35:13AM -0400, Andy Harrison wrote:
On 10/15/06, William Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD
can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back.
Ah well, you have to experience it. No amount of convincing
Linux has iSCSI...which hands Fbsd a real beating in the server space.
I work on projects at more customers than I can keep track of that
-have- to use Linux in the middle of Fbsd farms just because of the
amazing lack of iscsi support.
Linux has been doing iscsi since what..2002 or so? Maybe
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