Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:
My assumption still is: Not _every_ keyboard manufacturer does
code the layout into the USB identification. If you tell me I'm
wrong with this assumption, I'll be happy. :-)
Folks are supposed to use a different product ID for different
devices, so you
Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com, 2011-11-09 22:10 (+0100):
How would HAL know that the keyboard had a Swedish layout? No such
information is sent through USB or PS/2 when you attach a keyboard.
True for PS/2, but not true for USB-- the USB Vendor Product ID can
identify different keyboard
Samuel Magnusson samuel.magnuss...@bredband.net, 2011-11-09 21:52 (+0100):
Because with HAL and DBUS enabled this InputDevice section is bypassed
unless I also specify Option AutoAddDevices false. Which I
understand gives the same result as not enabling HAL and DBUS in the
first place.
If
Samuel Magnusson samuel.magnuss...@bredband.net, 2011-11-10 00:49 (+0100):
Michael Cardell Widerkrantz wrote 2011-11-09 21:02:
What new style XML method?
I'm referring to what Polytropon said about all the new stuff
required by X. As I understood him he was talking about the XML-files
to
Polytropon free...@edvax.de, 2011-11-10 01:30 (+0100):
Now as it (almost?) works on FreeBSD, it's already deprecated by new
Linux concepts such as udev, upower and other usomethings. Maybe
they become available as interfaces on FreeBSD too, but my fear is...
as soon as they are usable,
2011-11-09 21:52, Samuel Magnusson skrev:
When I first installed Xorg I began by following the handbook, which
means that I unwittingly did this to my poor rc.conf:
hald_enable=YES
dbus_enable=YES
That meant that I would HAVE to go into the XML-stuff (to get swedish
keys)
If all you want is
On Nov 10, 2011, at 2:25 AM, Michael Cardell Widerkrantz wrote:
True for PS/2, but not true for USB-- the USB Vendor Product ID can
identify different keyboard types and let you infer the country.
I'm sorry I was unclear. I meant the USB device doesn't say what
physical keyboard layout it
Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com, 2011-11-10 20:12 (+0100):
Different keycaps means a different product SKU, at least. If they use
the same USB product ID
Yes. I think this is a quite common scenario.
FreeBSD's users generally are more technically inclined and might be
willing to deal with
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:
FreeBSD's users generally are more technically inclined and might be willing
to deal with this, but even so, I suspect that most folks would appreciate
the system trying to figure out that an AZERTY keyboard layout means
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
Are the keyboard and mouse USB devices? A KVM should not disconnect them on
switching, but maybe it does.
In my experience, most inexpensive USB KVMs work by disconnecting the
keyboard/mouse from one system and
On Nov 10, 2011, at 3:57 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:
FreeBSD's users generally are more technically inclined and might be willing
to deal with this, but even so, I suspect that most folks would appreciate
the system trying
Thanks guys, that was really helpful!
I now also installed the nVidia driver and it works well. The reason I
didn't use it in the first place was that I had read that the old
Geforce 2-card wasn't supported by the nVidia rivers anymore. And that
nouveau (as replacement for nv) should be used
Samuel Magnusson wrote 2011-11-09 12:06:
Now I'm curious:
Is it then so that in the new style Xorg the XML-method will
override HAL, and this is the new default way of providing opitons
that formerly were in the InputDevice sections in xorg.conf?
And should HAL have discovered my swedish
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:06:37 +0100, Samuel Magnusson wrote:
Is it then so that in the new style Xorg the XML-method will override
HAL, and this is the new default way of providing opitons that formerly
were in the InputDevice sections in xorg.conf?
I hope not! :-)
As far as I understood the
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:19:44 +0100, Samuel Magnusson wrote:
This works for me:
X :0 -terminate
Ctrl-Alt-F1
xterm -display :0
Ctrl-Alt-F9
exit xterm.. which brings me back to the first console.
But this doesn't work:
X :0 -terminate vt4
Ctrl-Alt-F1 (doesn't respond)
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
Since this has been mentioned, I though I'd take the
opportunity ...
Polytropon writes:
You have X without HAL and DBUS? Use xorg.conf because this
has worked for many years to centralize X configuration.
You have X with HAL and DBUS, but don't want to use it? Reflect
this
On Wed, 9 Nov 2011, Robert Huff wrote:
I have two systems - one Windows, one FreeBSD - that share
monitor, keyboard, and mouse via a kvm. FreeBSD had both HAL and
DBUS installed and activated in rc.conf.
Scenario: I'm working on the FreeBSD system, and switch to the
WIndows
Samuel Magnusson samuel.magnuss...@bredband.net, 2011-11-09 12:06 (+0100):
Which made me remember that I had the exact same
problem with my swedish keyboardmappings the very first time I started
X. I just couldn't get it to work and nearly gave up before I tried
the setxkbmap method and put
On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 14:02:07 -0500
Robert Huff articulated:
Since this has been mentioned, I though I'd take the
opportunity ...
Polytropon writes:
You have X without HAL and DBUS? Use xorg.conf because this
has worked for many years to centralize X configuration.
You
Polytropon wrote 2011-11-09 19:15:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:06:37 +0100, Samuel Magnusson wrote:
Is it then so that in the new style Xorg the XML-method will override
HAL, and this is the new default way of providing opitons that formerly
were in the InputDevice sections in xorg.conf?
I hope
Hi--
On Nov 9, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Michael Cardell Widerkrantz wrote:
And should HAL have discovered my swedish keyboard automatically in
the first place, so there was something going wrong there?
How would HAL know that the keyboard had a Swedish layout? No such
information is sent through
Michael Cardell Widerkrantz wrote 2011-11-09 21:02:
Samuel Magnussonsamuel.magnuss...@bredband.net, 2011-11-09 12:06 (+0100):
Now I'm curious:
Is it then so that in the new style Xorg the XML-method will
override HAL, and this is the new default way of providing opitons
that formerly were in
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:49:19 +0100, Samuel Magnusson wrote:
Michael Cardell Widerkrantz wrote 2011-11-09 21:02:
Samuel Magnussonsamuel.magnuss...@bredband.net, 2011-11-09 12:06 (+0100):
Now I'm curious:
Is it then so that in the new style Xorg the XML-method will
override HAL, and this
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:10:20 -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote:
Hi--
On Nov 9, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Michael Cardell Widerkrantz wrote:
And should HAL have discovered my swedish keyboard automatically in
the first place, so there was something going wrong there?
How would HAL know that the
Polytropon wrote 2011-11-09 19:19:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:19:44 +0100, Samuel Magnusson wrote:
This works for me:
X :0 -terminate
Ctrl-Alt-F1
xterm -display :0
Ctrl-Alt-F9
exit xterm.. which brings me back to the first console.
But this doesn't work:
X :0 -terminate vt4
Ctrl-Alt-F1 (doesn't
Polytropon skrev 2011-11-10 01:30:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:49:19 +0100, Samuel Magnusson wrote:
And migrating from Windows and Mac might be
discouraging if there isn't a working desktop with visible text at least
within an hour or two after installation. :)
No problem in that, see FreeSBIE -
On Nov 9, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Polytropon wrote:
In this regards, it's also strange how FreeBSD could forget
USB information it once had.
On my old 5.x system, I got dmesg lines like that:
ukbd0: Sun Microsystems Type 6 USB keyboard,
rev 1.00/1.02, addr 3, iclass 3/1
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Samuel Magnusson wrote:
1. I can?t zap the server with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. Nothing at all happens. I
have checked that it isn't disabled in xorg.conf, and even tried to put in
the reverse boolean value there. Not that I couldn't live without zapping,
but...when I know
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:14:48 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Samuel Magnusson wrote:
1. I can?t zap the server with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. Nothing at all happens.
I
have checked that it isn't disabled in xorg.conf, and even tried to put in
the reverse boolean value
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Polytropon wrote:
And according to the handbook, this does _not_ remove the
need for a X configuration file (usually /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
including ``Option DontZap off'' in the ServerFlags
section.
For at least the most recent Xorg, it's not needed. Can't recall
whether
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Warren Block wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Polytropon wrote:
And according to the handbook, this does _not_ remove the
need for a X configuration file (usually /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
including ``Option DontZap off'' in the ServerFlags
section.
For at least the most recent
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:33:55 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Warren Block wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Polytropon wrote:
And according to the handbook, this does _not_ remove the
need for a X configuration file (usually /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
including ``Option DontZap
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Polytropon wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:33:55 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Warren Block wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Polytropon wrote:
And according to the handbook, this does _not_ remove the
need for a X configuration file (usually
Hi everyone!
I'm quite new to BSD and installed it on my old Pentium to try to learn
the unixverse from bottom up. My first aim is not just getting the
system running for surfing the web or something, not even to be
productive, but to understand why and how it runs.(Or else, why it
runs
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