Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS

2013-10-14 Thread aurfalien
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI

Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS

2013-10-14 Thread aurfalien
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI

Re: Is it possible to suspend to disk with geli+Root on ZFS installation

2013-10-13 Thread Ian Smith
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:17:20 +1000, yudi v wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 486, Issue 7, Message: 5 On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 16:25:33 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:37:55PM

FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS

2013-10-12 Thread aurfalien
9207 HBAs 1 LSI 9206 HBA I've 13 vdev RaidZ setup. Not a super system, but not a shabby one either. Used local (non network) IOzone and dd tests for some simple prelim testing just to gauge were I'm at with this bad boy. My ZFS tunables are the same BTW as I did some tweaks. My CentOS 6.4 box

Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Felder
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI firmware issue. What are the firmwares for those HBAs?

Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS

2013-10-12 Thread aurfalien
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI

Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS

2013-10-12 Thread aurfalien
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI

Re: Is it possible to suspend to disk with geli+Root on ZFS installation

2013-10-12 Thread yudi v
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 486, Issue 7, Message: 5 On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 16:25:33 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:37:55PM +1000, yudi v wrote: Hi all, Is it possible

Re: Geli and ZFS

2013-10-10 Thread Terje Elde
On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:43 AM, yudi v yudi@gmail.com wrote: Generally, it's recommended to let ZFS manage the whole disk if possible, so I was wondering if the second option is better. I will be using couple of 3TB HDDs mirrored for data and want to encrypt them. IIRC, there is/was a major

Geli and ZFS

2013-10-08 Thread yudi v
* * -- There are few different ways to set-up geli with ZFS. I just want to get some opinions (benefits and disadvantages) about the below two options *First option*: (most commonly encountered set-up) Have geli on the block device and ZFS on top of the geli

zfs over geli over zfs (was: Re: zfs flag denoting unclean shutdown?)

2013-10-03 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On 10/02/2013 08:13 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 02/10/2013 16:34, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: Is there a way to know if a zfs pool had an unclean shutdown? An attribute or maybe something during mount time similar to what ufs does (WARNING: / was not properly dismounted)? Other than looking

Re: zfs over geli over zfs

2013-10-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 03/10/2013 17:20, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: I am after a really specific use-case and the last minute transactions are important. Using a zpool over geli over a zvol. I'd like to know if during shutdown the kernel flushes all zfs files caches in order so these last minutes transactions won't

zfs flag denoting unclean shutdown?

2013-10-02 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
Hi, Is there a way to know if a zfs pool had an unclean shutdown? An attribute or maybe something during mount time similar to what ufs does (WARNING: / was not properly dismounted)? Thanks, Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: zfs flag denoting unclean shutdown?

2013-10-02 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 02/10/2013 16:34, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: Is there a way to know if a zfs pool had an unclean shutdown? An attribute or maybe something during mount time similar to what ufs does (WARNING: / was not properly dismounted)? Other than looking at the system logs for evidence of an abnormal

Re: Is it possible to suspend to disk with geli+Root on ZFS installation

2013-09-29 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 486, Issue 7, Message: 5 On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 16:25:33 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:37:55PM +1000, yudi v wrote: Hi all, Is it possible to suspend to disk (hibernate) when using geli for full disk encryption.

Is it possible to suspend to disk with geli+Root on ZFS installation

2013-09-28 Thread Ian Smith
container and ZFS on top. There are two options for the swap with this set-up, either use a swap file on the ZFS pool or use a separate partition for swap and encrypt that. What I want to know is will either of this work with suspend to disk. FreeBSD does not support suspend to disk (ACPI

Re: Is it possible to suspend to disk with geli+Root on ZFS installation

2013-09-28 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:37:55PM +1000, yudi v wrote: Hi all, Is it possible to suspend to disk (hibernate) when using geli for full disk encryption. As far as I can tell, FreeBSD doesn't support suspend to disk on all architectures. On amd64 the necessary infrastructure doesn't exist,

Is it possible to suspend to disk with geli+Root on ZFS installation

2013-09-27 Thread yudi v
Hi all, Is it possible to suspend to disk (hibernate) when using geli for full disk encryption. My set-up is listed below. So I am going to have an encrypted container and ZFS on top. There are two options for the swap with this set-up, either use a swap file on the ZFS pool or use a separate

geli+Root on ZFS installation

2013-09-20 Thread yudi v
Hi, I managed to install with geli+root on ZFS setup but have a few questions. Most of the instructions just list commands but offer very little explanation. I adapted the instructions in https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/9.0-RELEASE to suit my needs. Here's the process I used

Re: Proper way to share ZFS via NFS

2013-09-11 Thread krad
for zfs datasets. Just because Not so clear, if you are using a mixture of filesystems you may very sensibly opt to keep all your export controls in one place, similarly if you have servers running multiple OSs then not having to remember that the FreeBSD/ZFS box manages it's exports

Re: Proper way to share ZFS via NFS

2013-09-11 Thread Matthias Gamsjager
September 2013 19:39, Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org wrote: On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:10:13 +0100 krad kra...@gmail.com wrote: which is why you shouldnt use /etc/exports for zfs datasets. Just because Not so clear, if you are using a mixture of filesystems you may very

Re: Proper way to share ZFS via NFS

2013-09-11 Thread krad
you shouldnt use /etc/exports for zfs datasets. Just because Not so clear, if you are using a mixture of filesystems you may very sensibly opt to keep all your export controls in one place, similarly if you have servers running multiple OSs then not having to remember

Re: Proper way to share ZFS via NFS

2013-09-10 Thread krad
which is why you shouldnt use /etc/exports for zfs datasets. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should eg dancing down the motorway at night in dark clothing is never a good idea, no matter how confident you are in your skills. On 9 September 2013 15:22, Steve O'Hara-Smith st

Re: Proper way to share ZFS via NFS

2013-09-10 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:10:13 +0100, krad wrote: which is why you shouldnt use /etc/exports for zfs datasets. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should eg dancing down the motorway at night in dark clothing is never a good idea, no matter how confident you are in your skills

Re: Proper way to share ZFS via NFS

2013-09-10 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:10:13 +0100 krad kra...@gmail.com wrote: which is why you shouldnt use /etc/exports for zfs datasets. Just because Not so clear, if you are using a mixture of filesystems you may very sensibly opt to keep all your export controls in one place, similarly if you

Re: Proper way to share ZFS via NFS

2013-09-09 Thread krad
always the zfs commands for zfs filesystems, otherwise why else would they be there? Do it manually and you could get conflicts later down the line On 6 September 2013 19:43, aurfalien aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Wondering whats the correct way to share ZFS, /etc/exports or via zfs

Re: ZFS Snapshots Not able to be accessed under .zfs/snapshot/name

2013-09-09 Thread dweimer
On 08/16/2013 8:49 am, dweimer wrote: On 08/15/2013 10:00 am, dweimer wrote: On 08/14/2013 9:43 pm, Shane Ambler wrote: On 14/08/2013 22:57, dweimer wrote: I have a few systems running on ZFS with a backup script that creates snapshots, then backs up the .zfs/snapshot/name directory to make

Re: Proper way to share ZFS via NFS

2013-09-09 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:43:03 -0700 aurfalien aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Wondering whats the correct way to share ZFS, /etc/exports or via zfs commands which alter /etc/zfs/exports? As far as I can see both work just fine. The first has the benefit that it puts your ZFS exports

Re: ZFS Snapshots Not able to be accessed under .zfs/snapshot/name

2013-09-09 Thread Shane Ambler
On 09/09/2013 22:38, dweimer wrote: A quick update on this, in case anyone else runs into it, I did finally try on the 2nd of this month to delete my UFS volume, and create a new ZFS volume to replace it. I recreated the Squid cache directories and let squid start over building up cache. So

Proper way to share ZFS via NFS

2013-09-06 Thread aurfalien
Hi, Wondering whats the correct way to share ZFS, /etc/exports or via zfs commands which alter /etc/zfs/exports? I see a lot of both on line. Thanks in advance, - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org

Zfs encryption property for freebsd 8.3

2013-09-03 Thread Emre Çamalan
Hi, I want to encrypt some disk on my server with Zfs encryption property but it is not available. Are there anybody have got an experience about this? [url]http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/821-1448/gkkih.html#scrolltoc[/url] [url]http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/articles/servers

Re: Zfs encryption property for freebsd 8.3

2013-09-03 Thread Ivan Voras
On 03/09/2013 14:14, Emre Çamalan wrote: Hi, I want to encrypt some disk on my server with Zfs encryption property but it is not available. Are there anybody have got an experience about this? It can't happen because Oracle has stopped open sourcing ZFS. http://forums.freebsd.org

Re: ZFS Snapshots Not able to be accessed under .zfs/snapshot/name

2013-08-16 Thread dweimer
On 08/15/2013 10:00 am, dweimer wrote: On 08/14/2013 9:43 pm, Shane Ambler wrote: On 14/08/2013 22:57, dweimer wrote: I have a few systems running on ZFS with a backup script that creates snapshots, then backs up the .zfs/snapshot/name directory to make sure open files are not missed

Re: ZFS Snapshots Not able to be accessed under .zfs/snapshot/name

2013-08-15 Thread dweimer
On 08/14/2013 9:43 pm, Shane Ambler wrote: On 14/08/2013 22:57, dweimer wrote: I have a few systems running on ZFS with a backup script that creates snapshots, then backs up the .zfs/snapshot/name directory to make sure open files are not missed. This has been working great but all

ZFS Snapshots Not able to be accessed under .zfs/snapshot/name

2013-08-14 Thread dweimer
I have a few systems running on ZFS with a backup script that creates snapshots, then backs up the .zfs/snapshot/name directory to make sure open files are not missed. This has been working great but all of the sudden one of my systems has stopped working. It takes the snapshots fine, zfs

Re: ZFS Snapshots Not able to be accessed under .zfs/snapshot/name

2013-08-14 Thread Shane Ambler
On 14/08/2013 22:57, dweimer wrote: I have a few systems running on ZFS with a backup script that creates snapshots, then backs up the .zfs/snapshot/name directory to make sure open files are not missed. This has been working great but all of the sudden one of my systems has stopped working

Qlogic Fiber Target and ZFS

2013-08-13 Thread Outback Dingo
Okay Ive been down this road before but seem to have lost my notes and cat seem to find the original google doc on the process how does one configure a Qlogic 8Gb fiber card as target and attach the zpool ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

TRIM on ZFS mirror

2013-08-02 Thread John Andreasson
Hi. I read that FreeBSD 9.2 will bring TRIM to ZFS. Does anyone know if this works even if the zpool is a mirror? John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any

Re: TRIM on ZFS mirror

2013-08-02 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Aug 02), John Andreasson said: I read that FreeBSD 9.2 will bring TRIM to ZFS. Does anyone know if this works even if the zpool is a mirror? The vdev type doesn't matter. It'll work on plain disks, mirrors, and raidzs. If for some reason you have a pool built on geom

Re: TRIM on ZFS mirror

2013-08-02 Thread aurfalien
Confirmed in beta 1. - aurf On Aug 2, 2013, at 2:12 AM, John Andreasson wrote: Hi. I read that FreeBSD 9.2 will bring TRIM to ZFS. Does anyone know if this works even if the zpool is a mirror? John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-22 Thread krad
But then zfs doesn't access every block on the disk does it, only the allocated ones On 20 July 2013 21:07, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: On Sat, 20 Jul 2013, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:14:20 +0100 Frank Leonhardt fra...@fjl.co.uk wrote: It's worth

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-22 Thread Shane Ambler
On 21/07/2013 17:31, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 14:13:39 +0930 Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz wrote: On 21/07/2013 04:42, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: It's a pity there are now only two manufacturers of spinning rust. I thought there was three left - Seagate WD and

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-21 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 14:13:39 +0930 Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz wrote: On 21/07/2013 04:42, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: It's a pity there are now only two manufacturers of spinning rust. I thought there was three left - Seagate WD and Toshiba I assumed Toshiba were out of the

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-21 Thread Perry Hutchison
Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org wrote: It's a pity there are now only two manufacturers of spinning rust. I didn't think there were _any_! Haven't oxide-coated platters gone the way of the dodo bird? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-21 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 00:27:01 -0700 per...@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) wrote: Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org wrote: It's a pity there are now only two manufacturers of spinning rust. I didn't think there were _any_! Haven't oxide-coated platters gone the way of the dodo bird?

Re: ZFS trim patches

2013-07-20 Thread Per olof Ljungmark
On 2013-07-20 07:25, aurfalien wrote: Hi, Is this; http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2012-September/036777.html ... available in the form of a patch for stable rels? Its ZFS TRIM support. According to /usr/src/UPDATING, yes: 20130605: Added ZFS TRIM

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-20 Thread Frank Leonhardt
to explicitly physically swap out a failed mirror component, in which case one can make sure the system is OK before the replacement drive goes in. Agreed. Blaming gmirror for this kind of thing overlooks the overall design and operating procedures of the system, and assuming ZFS would have

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-20 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:14:20 +0100 Frank Leonhardt fra...@fjl.co.uk wrote: It's worth noting, as a warning for anyone who hasn't been there, that the number of times a second drive in a RAID system fails during a rebuild is higher than would be expected. During a rebuild the remaining

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-20 Thread Daniel Feenberg
and writes every sector on multiple disks, including unused sectors, it can detect latent problems that may have existed since the drive was new but which haven't been used for data yet, or have gone bad since the last write, but haven't been read since. The ZFS scrub processes only sectors

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-20 Thread Shane Ambler
On 21/07/2013 04:42, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: It's a pity there are now only two manufacturers of spinning rust. I thought there was three left - Seagate WD and Toshiba ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-19 Thread aurfalien
On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Warren Block wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, aurfalien wrote: On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Shane Ambler wrote: I doubt that you would save any ram having the os on a non-zfs drive as you will already be using zfs chances are that non-zfs drives would only

ZFS trim patches

2013-07-19 Thread aurfalien
Hi, Is this; http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2012-September/036777.html ... available in the form of a patch for stable rels? Its ZFS TRIM support. - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org

Re: Adding another mirror to existing ZFS-root mirror?

2013-07-17 Thread krad
you could just give the raw disks to zfs On 15 July 2013 17:23, Scott Ballantyne s...@ssr.com wrote: Hi, I have the current situation: sdb@gigawattmomma$ zpool status zroot NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-17 Thread krad
You would in theory as from what i remember every zfs filesystem takes up 64 kb of ram, so the savings could be massive 8) On 16 July 2013 10:41, Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz wrote: On 16/07/2013 14:41, aurfalien wrote: On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 15

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-17 Thread krad
AM, Johan Hendriks joh.hendr...@gmail.com** javascript:; wrote: [ ... ] I would us a zfs for the os. I have a couple of servers that did not survive a power failure with gmirror. The problems i had was when the power failed one disk was in a rebuilding state and then when the background

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-16 Thread Shane Ambler
On 16/07/2013 14:41, aurfalien wrote: On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, aurfalien wrote: ... thats the question :) At any rate, I'm building a rather large 100+TB NAS using ZFS. However for my OS, should I also ZFS or simply gmirror as I've a dedicated

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-16 Thread Frank Leonhardt
On 16/07/2013 10:41, Shane Ambler wrote: On 16/07/2013 14:41, aurfalien wrote: On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, aurfalien wrote: ... thats the question :) At any rate, I'm building a rather large 100+TB NAS using ZFS. However for my OS, should I also

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-16 Thread Johan Hendriks
rate, I'm building a rather large 100+TB NAS using ZFS. However for my OS, should I also ZFS or simply gmirror as I've a dedicated pair of 256GB SSD drives for it. I didn't ask for SSD sys drives, this system just came with em. This is more of a best practices q. ZFS has data integrity

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-16 Thread aurfalien
On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Shane Ambler wrote: On 16/07/2013 14:41, aurfalien wrote: On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, aurfalien wrote: ... thats the question :) At any rate, I'm building a rather large 100+TB NAS using ZFS. However for my OS

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-16 Thread Johan Hendriks
Op dinsdag 16 juli 2013 schreef Charles Swiger (cswi...@mac.com) het volgende: Hi-- On Jul 16, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Johan Hendriks joh.hendr...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: [ ... ] I would us a zfs for the os. I have a couple of servers that did not survive a power failure with gmirror

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-16 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, aurfalien wrote: On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Shane Ambler wrote: I doubt that you would save any ram having the os on a non-zfs drive as you will already be using zfs chances are that non-zfs drives would only increase ram usage by adding a second cache. zfs uses it's own

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-16 Thread Charles Swiger
Hi-- On Jul 16, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Johan Hendriks joh.hendr...@gmail.com wrote: [ ... ] I would us a zfs for the os. I have a couple of servers that did not survive a power failure with gmirror. The problems i had was when the power failed one disk was in a rebuilding state and then when

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-16 Thread Charles Swiger
Hi-- On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Johan Hendriks joh.hendr...@gmail.com wrote: Well, don't do that. :-) When the server reboots because of a powerfailure at night, then it boots. Then it starts to rebuild the mirror on its own, and later the fsck kicks in. Not much i can do about it.

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-16 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On 07/16/13 21:27, Johan Hendriks wrote: Op dinsdag 16 juli 2013 schreef Charles Swiger (cswi...@mac.com) het volgende: Hi-- On Jul 16, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Johan Hendriks joh.hendr...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: [ ... ] I would us a zfs for the os. I have a couple of servers that did

Adding another mirror to existing ZFS-root mirror?

2013-07-15 Thread Scott Ballantyne
-zfs), with boot code installed, obviously. Do I need to do that with the second mirror, or can I just use the whole thing for a freebsd-zfs filesystem? Sorry this was a bit long. Thanks in advance for any help. Best, Scott -- s...@ssr.com ___ freebsd

to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-15 Thread aurfalien
... thats the question :) At any rate, I'm building a rather large 100+TB NAS using ZFS. However for my OS, should I also ZFS or simply gmirror as I've a dedicated pair of 256GB SSD drives for it. I didn't ask for SSD sys drives, this system just came with em. This is more of a best

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-15 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, aurfalien wrote: ... thats the question :) At any rate, I'm building a rather large 100+TB NAS using ZFS. However for my OS, should I also ZFS or simply gmirror as I've a dedicated pair of 256GB SSD drives for it. I didn't ask for SSD sys drives, this system just came

Re: to gmirror or to ZFS

2013-07-15 Thread aurfalien
On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, aurfalien wrote: ... thats the question :) At any rate, I'm building a rather large 100+TB NAS using ZFS. However for my OS, should I also ZFS or simply gmirror as I've a dedicated pair of 256GB SSD drives

zfs can't mount /usr after 9.1-release upgrade

2013-07-10 Thread Tom Worster
a freebsd box doesn't boot normally since upgrading from 9.1-rc3 to 9.1-release. it boots to the point that /usr is mounted, then errors mount: /usr: unknown special file or file system if i boot to single user, zfs mount -a manually, then it comes up fine. what function key do i gotta press

Re: zfs can't mount /usr after 9.1-release upgrade

2013-07-10 Thread Tom Worster
On 7/10/13 1:50 PM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Tom Worster f...@thefsb.org wrote: # mount -p /etc/fstab thanks for answering, michael. i have now spotted the problem. the zfs_enable line in rc.conf was fubar. i must have done some bad vi on it

ZFS: raid VS copies=n

2013-06-07 Thread Quartz
Question: How does the ZFS option 'copies=n' and raid relate to and interact with each other? specifically recovery in the event of a failure. For example, is having three disks in a raid-1 configuration with copies=1 effectively the same as having three disks in a raid-0 with copies=3

Re: ZFS: raid VS copies=n

2013-06-07 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
07.06.2013 18:52, Quartz: Question: How does the ZFS option 'copies=n' and raid relate to and interact with each other? specifically recovery in the event of a failure. For example, is having three disks in a raid-1 configuration with copies=1 effectively the same as having three disks

Re: ZFS: raid VS copies=n

2013-06-07 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 07), Quartz said: How does the ZFS option 'copies=n' and raid relate to and interact with each other? specifically recovery in the event of a failure. For example, is having three disks in a raid-1 configuration with copies=1 effectively the same as having three

Re: file corruption solution (soft-update or ZFS)

2013-05-25 Thread Paul Kraus
On May 23, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: .. One thing mentioned earlier is that ZFS wants lots of memory. 4G-8G minimum, some might say as much as the server will hold

Re: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-24 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Thu, 23 May 2013 11:00:21 +0200 Albert Shih albert.s...@obspm.fr wrote: Before I'm installing my server under 9.0 + ZFS I do some benchmarks with ionice to compare FreeBSD 9.0+ ZFS + 12 disk SATA 7200 rpm vs CentOS + H700 + 12 disk SAS 15krpm (Both are same Dell poweredge

Re: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-23 Thread Albert Shih
Le 17/05/2013 ? 20:03:30-0400, Paul Kraus a écrit ZFS is stable, it is NOT as tuned as UFS just due to age. UFS in all of it's various incarnations has been tuned far more than any filesystem has any right to be. I spent many years managing Solaris system and I was truly amazed at how

Re: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-23 Thread Albert Shih
Le 18/05/2013 ? 09:02:15-0400, Paul Kraus a écrit On May 18, 2013, at 3:21 AM, Ivailo Tanusheff ivailo.tanush...@skrill.com wrote: If you use HBA/JBOD then you will rely on the software RAID of the ZFS system. Yes, this RAID is good, but unless you use SSD disks to boost performance

file corruption solution (soft-update or ZFS)

2013-05-23 Thread saeedeh motlagh
soft update or migrate from UFS to ZFS? i heard so much about soft update -that is added in freebsd9.1- which can fix file corruption in acceptable way with low cost but i don't know how much is reliable and efficient. in the other hand, i think migration from UFS to ZFS can be another solution

Re: file corruption solution (soft-update or ZFS)

2013-05-23 Thread Warren Block
is: is it better to upgrade my freebsd to 9.1 and use soft update or migrate from UFS to ZFS? That's a judgement call, which means it depends. i heard so much about soft update -that is added in freebsd9.1- which can fix file corruption in acceptable way with low cost but i don't know how much

Re: file corruption solution (soft-update or ZFS)

2013-05-23 Thread saeedeh motlagh
is more suitable for my server. using soft-update or ZFS. please help me to select the best one. thank you so much On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Thu, 23 May 2013, saeedeh motlagh wrote: hello every body i have a question about fixing file corruption

Re: file corruption solution (soft-update or ZFS)

2013-05-23 Thread Trond Endrestøl
also invest in a decent UPS. i do not have any problem in RAM and hardware. i don't know which approach is more suitable for my server. using soft-update or ZFS. please help me to select the best one. thank you so much On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote

Re: file corruption solution (soft-update or ZFS)

2013-05-23 Thread Warren Block
. The lack of a UPS can be considered a hardware problem. i don't know which approach is more suitable for my server. using soft-update or ZFS. please help me to select the best one. Please don't top-post, as it makes responding to your message more difficult. One thing mentioned earlier is that ZFS

Re: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-23 Thread Paul Kraus
On May 23, 2013, at 4:53 AM, Albert Shih albert.s...@obspm.fr wrote: Have you ever try to update a ZFS Pool on 9.0 to 9.1 ? I recently upgraded my home server from 9.0 to 9.1, actually, I did exported my data zpool (raidZ2), did a clean installation of 9.1, then imported my data zpool

Re: file corruption solution (soft-update or ZFS)

2013-05-23 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: .. One thing mentioned earlier is that ZFS wants lots of memory. 4G-8G minimum, some might say as much as the server will hold. Not necessarily so - deduplication places great demands on memory, but that can

Strange behavior of NFS/ZFS on 9.0

2013-05-23 Thread Albert Shih
Hi all, I've a server under FreeBSD 9.0 with a large ZFS pool (~ 150To) This server is use mainly for backup and NFS server, he also have 4 Gb/s interface bound with LACP. If the nfs client is close to the server (physical distance) everything is fine. When the client is far away (NFS over

Re: file corruption solution (soft-update or ZFS)

2013-05-23 Thread Joshua Isom
into it. i do not have any problem in RAM and hardware. i don't know which approach is more suitable for my server. using soft-update or ZFS. please help me to select the best one. If power failure is an issue, you have no guarantee of data loss protection unless you use networked storage

Upgrading from 8.3 to 9.1 zfs pool can't attach

2013-05-22 Thread Leslie Jensen
I've upgraded a machine with freebsd-update from 8.3 to 9.1. After the first restart I edited /etc/fstab in single user mode because the names on the disks had changed. But the zpool I have seem to have a problem and I'm not sure on how to recover it. May 22 12:00:39 kernel: ZFS WARNING

Re: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-19 Thread Paul Kraus
On May 18, 2013, at 10:16 PM, kpn...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 01:29:58PM +, Ivailo Tanusheff wrote: Not sure about your calculations, hope you trust them, but in my previous company we have a 3-4 months period when a disk fails almost every day on 2 year old servers, so

RE: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-18 Thread Ivailo Tanusheff
Hi, The overhead depends of the quantity of the changes you made since the oldest snapshot and the current data on the ZFS pool. The snapshots keep only the differences between the live system and each other, so if you have made 10GB changes over the last 7 days and your oldest snapshot is 7

RE: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-18 Thread Ivailo Tanusheff
Hi, If you use HBA/JBOD then you will rely on the software RAID of the ZFS system. Yes, this RAID is good, but unless you use SSD disks to boost performance and a lot of RAM the hardware raid should be more reliable and mush faster. I didn't get if you want to use the system to dual boot Linux

RE: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-18 Thread Ivailo Tanusheff
named mypool issue: zfs set copies=2 mypool Best regards, Ivailo Tanusheff -Original Message- From: b...@todoo.biz [mailto:b...@todoo.biz] Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:46 AM To: Ivailo Tanusheff Subject: Re: ZFS install on a partition Le 18 mai 2013 à 09:21, Ivailo Tanusheff

Re: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-18 Thread Paul Kraus
On May 18, 2013, at 3:21 AM, Ivailo Tanusheff ivailo.tanush...@skrill.com wrote: If you use HBA/JBOD then you will rely on the software RAID of the ZFS system. Yes, this RAID is good, but unless you use SSD disks to boost performance and a lot of RAM the hardware raid should be more

Re: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-18 Thread Paul Kraus
On May 18, 2013, at 12:49 AM, kpn...@pobox.com wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 08:03:30PM -0400, Paul Kraus wrote: On May 17, 2013, at 6:24 PM, b...@todoo.biz b...@todoo.biz wrote: 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It would be asking for trouble to use ZFS

RE: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-18 Thread Ivailo Tanusheff
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kraus Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:02 PM To: Ivailo Tanusheff Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: ZFS install on a partition On May 18, 2013, at 3:21 AM, Ivailo Tanusheff

ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-17 Thread b...@todoo.biz
Hi, I have a question regarding ZFS install on a system setup using an Intel Modular. This system runs various flavor of FreeBSD and Linux using a shared pool (LUNs). These LUNs have been configured in RAID 6 using the internal controller (LSI logic). So from the OS point of view

Re: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-17 Thread Joshua Isom
Your hardware raid should be faster than ZFS raid. Don't use zfs raid because there will be no benefit. You'll get the performance of software raid using CPU time, along with lost space for already backed up data. ZFS should work fine. A lot of the tuning on the wiki page isn't needed

Re: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-17 Thread Paul Kraus
On May 17, 2013, at 6:24 PM, b...@todoo.biz b...@todoo.biz wrote: I know I should install a system using HBA and JBOD configuration - but unfortunately this is not an option for this server. I ran many ZFS pools on top of hardware raid units, because that is what we had. It works fine

Re: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-17 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 18 May 2013, at 01:15, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: Your hardware raid should be faster than ZFS raid. Don't use zfs raid because there will be no benefit. Self healing much ? I wouldn't dream of dropping it for a 20mb/s performance increase from a HW controller. What

Re: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-17 Thread b...@todoo.biz
this is not an option for this server. I ran many ZFS pools on top of hardware raid units, because that is what we had. It works fine and the NVRAM write cache of the better hardware raid systems give you a performance boost. What would you advise ? 1. Can I use an existing partition

Re: ZFS install on a partition

2013-05-17 Thread b...@todoo.biz
Le 18 mai 2013 à 06:49, kpn...@pobox.com a écrit : On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 08:03:30PM -0400, Paul Kraus wrote: On May 17, 2013, at 6:24 PM, b...@todoo.biz b...@todoo.biz wrote: 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It would be asking for trouble to use ZFS

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