Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-16 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 08:36:21AM +, Saifi Khan wrote: There are two rights associated. Rights to Usage Rights to Modify When you take a piece of code licensed under GPL and modify it, you are required to make your changes available and also under the same license ie. GPL. So the

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-16 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:36:44PM -0700, prad wrote: thank you everyone for your comments on this topic. A few more links: + Copyfree licensing http://copyfree.org/ + Copyfree vs. Copyleft http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Copyfree_vs_Copyleft + BSD/Copyfree vs. Corporate Copyleft

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-14 Thread Chris Rees
2009/3/11 David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 01:20:18AM -0700, prad wrote: i've not paid much attention to licensing philosophy i the past, because for me it was always windoze vs the goodguys. however, recently i've become aware of there being a chasm within the goodguys

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-14 Thread Chris Rees
2009/3/11 David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 01:20:18AM -0700, prad wrote: i've not paid much attention to licensing philosophy i the past, because for me it was always windoze vs the goodguys. however, recently i've become aware of there being a chasm within the goodguys

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
prad wrote: On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:20:18 -0700 prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: do people here have any thoughts on the two different licenses? thank you everyone for your comments on this topic. the links some of you provided were very interesting and helpful. i had no idea

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The ACM Queue (1 May 2004) article by Jay Michaelson of Wasabi Systems is very insightful. There is no such thing as Free (Software) lunch Please take a look at http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1005066 In 2009, you would like your product (esp infrastructure product or platform) to reach out

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-12 Thread Saifi Khan
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Wojciech Puchar wrote: The ACM Queue (1 May 2004) article by Jay Michaelson of Wasabi Systems is very insightful. There is no such thing as Free (Software) lunch Please take a look at http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1005066 In 2009, you would like your

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Do you have any credible proof ? yes. i used NetBSD quite a long. i started turning into crap just when wasabisystems appeared and employed good deal of NetBSD developers. Then i switched to FreeBSD because i wanted WORKING system, while older version no longer worked on new computers.

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-12 Thread Nathan Lay
Polytropon wrote: I'd like to make an addition: The freedom of the BSDL intentionally allows to close sources. This can be considered theft, if one would like to use this interpretation. When taking some BSDL code, there's no need to contribute anything back. One argument could be that the

bsd vs gpl

2009-03-11 Thread prad
i've not paid much attention to licensing philosophy i the past, because for me it was always windoze vs the goodguys. however, recently i've become aware of there being a chasm within the goodguys in that the bsd attitude is do what you want as long as you give credit to the creator, whereas the

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-11 Thread Saifi Khan
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:20 AM, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: however, recently i've become aware of there being a chasm within the goodguys in that the bsd attitude is do what you want as long as you give credit to the creator, whereas the gpl folks say do what you want as long as you

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-11 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 4:20 AM, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: do people here have any thoughts on the two different licenses? -- In friendship, prad This is NOT a simple issue . In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_software_licences

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i've not paid much attention to licensing philosophy i the past, because for me it was always windoze vs the goodguys. however, recently i've become aware of there being a chasm within the goodguys in that the bsd attitude is do what you want as long as you give credit to the creator, whereas

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-11 Thread David Kelly
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 01:20:18AM -0700, prad wrote: i've not paid much attention to licensing philosophy i the past, because for me it was always windoze vs the goodguys. however, recently i've become aware of there being a chasm within the goodguys in that the bsd attitude is do what you

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-11 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:02:47 -0500, David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net wrote: The source code is always free under BSD, contrary to what GPL proponents claim. Terms like enslavement of code come into mind, BSD thieves and others... But this isn't only the case with BSDL. The MIT uses a similar

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
That's why the GPL is often called a viral license. As GPL is a communist licence. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-11 Thread Eitan Adler
Reader Chemisor advances a theory in his journal that a linguistic misunderstanding is at the root of many disagreements over different licensing philosophies, in particular BSD vs. GPL. The argument is that GPL adherents desire the freedom of their /code/, while those on the BSD side want freedom

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-11 Thread Eduardo Morras
At 16:09 11/03/2009, Wojciech Puchar wrote: That's why the GPL is often called a viral license. As GPL is a communist licence. No, even communist are more generous ... --- Useful Acronyms: GPL = Greedy Pengüin Licence

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
At 16:09 11/03/2009, Wojciech Puchar wrote: That's why the GPL is often called a viral license. As GPL is a communist licence. No, even communist are more generous ... It's not funny. Communism is common today, and it's getting stronger from day they just changed to names to hide.

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-11 Thread prad
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:20:18 -0700 prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: do people here have any thoughts on the two different licenses? thank you everyone for your comments on this topic. the links some of you provided were very interesting and helpful. i had no idea there were so many licenses

Re: bsd vs gpl

2009-03-11 Thread Saifi Khan
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, prad wrote: On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:20:18 -0700 prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: do people here have any thoughts on the two different licenses? thank you everyone for your comments on this topic. the links some of you provided were very interesting and helpful.