Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-13 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 13), Andrea Venturoli said: ** Reply to note from Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 12 Jul 2003 17:13:29 +0930 The real performance penalty for RAID-5 is simply that writes require so much I/O. Expect 25% of the write performance of RAID-0. Ok, I must

Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-13 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 13 July 2003 at 14:14:53 -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 13), Andrea Venturoli said: ** Reply to note from Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 12 Jul 2003 17:13:29 +0930 The real performance penalty for RAID-5 is simply that writes require so much I/O.

Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-13 Thread Marc Wiz
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 10:02:58AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I don't believe vinum can optimize full-stripe writes, though, since FreeBSD can only do I/O in 64k max chunks, 128 kB. Greg, I thought physio was limited to 64 KB? The man page on dump states this. Please correct me

Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-13 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 13 July 2003 at 20:57:46 -0500, Marc Wiz wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 10:02:58AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I don't believe vinum can optimize full-stripe writes, though, since FreeBSD can only do I/O in 64k max chunks, 128 kB. I thought physio was limited to 64 KB? The

Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-13 Thread Marc Wiz
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 11:49:14AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Sunday, 13 July 2003 at 20:57:46 -0500, Marc Wiz wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 10:02:58AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I don't believe vinum can optimize full-stripe writes, though, since FreeBSD can only do I/O

Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-13 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 13 July 2003 at 22:01:37 -0500, Marc Wiz wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 11:49:14AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Sunday, 13 July 2003 at 20:57:46 -0500, Marc Wiz wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 10:02:58AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I don't believe vinum can optimize

Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-13 Thread Andrea Venturoli
** Reply to note from Malcolm Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:42:21 +0930 Shouldn't SCSI system allow paralell writes on different disks? Physical writes yes. But how does the data get there? The SCSI bus (like any other) has a finite bandwidth. Ok, but suppose you have an

Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-12 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 11 July 2003 at 22:21:19 -0700, Mike Maltese wrote: Depends on what you mean. Vinum isn't a hardware device driver, so it doesn't need to understand hot swapping. If you hot swap a drive, Vinum handles the resulting events correctly. So if I have a drive fail, say in a RAID 5

Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-12 Thread Mike Maltese
this is good news indeed. Thanks for your help!! - Original Message - From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike Maltese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 12:43 AM Subject: Re: vinum and hot-swapping

Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-12 Thread Andrea Venturoli
** Reply to note from Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 12 Jul 2003 17:13:29 +0930 The real performance penalty for RAID-5 is simply that writes require so much I/O. Expect 25% of the write performance of RAID-0. Ok, I must ask this: Shouldn't SCSI system allow paralell writes on

Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-12 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 13 July 2003 at 4:45:08 -0500, Andrea Venturoli wrote: ** Reply to note from Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 12 Jul 2003 17:13:29 +0930 The real performance penalty for RAID-5 is simply that writes require so much I/O. Expect 25% of the write performance of RAID-0.

Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-12 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 19:15, Andrea Venturoli wrote: ** Reply to note from Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 12 Jul 2003 17:13:29 +0930 The real performance penalty for RAID-5 is simply that writes require so much I/O. Expect 25% of the write performance of RAID-0. Ok, I must ask

vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-11 Thread Mike Maltese
Does vinum support hot-swapping? I've skimmed through the handbook and it isn't immediately clear. As an aside, I must say that I'm really quite that my Mylex AcceleRAID 250 won't play nice with my new Intel U160 hot-swap backplane/enclosure. Both claim to be SAF-TE compliant but the card

Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-11 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Single line paragraphs. On Friday, 11 July 2003 at 21:45:34 -0700, Mike Maltese wrote: Does vinum support hot-swapping? I've skimmed through the handbook and it isn't immediately clear. Depends on what you mean. Vinum isn't

Re: vinum and hot-swapping

2003-07-11 Thread Mike Maltese
Depends on what you mean. Vinum isn't a hardware device driver, so it doesn't need to understand hot swapping. If you hot swap a drive, Vinum handles the resulting events correctly. So if I have a drive fail, say in a RAID 5 configuration, I don't have to detach it at all? Just swap them out