Re: Best way to back up mysql database

2008-11-06 Thread Sebastian Tymków
Hello,

Yes you're right but what I meant was something like this ;))
http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/08/21/using-lvm-for-mysql-backup-and-replication-setup/
It's simple, safe and faster than mysqldump.
On 3 GB database it takes only 3-5 seconds.


Best regards,

Sebastian Tymkow
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Re: gmirror + gjournal setup question

2008-11-06 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

Gabriel Lavoie wrote:

Hello,
 I would like to know what is the best way to setup gmirror + gjournal,
on a slice level on two hard drives. Do I set up a mirrored journal
partition + mirrored journalized slice (gmirror on top of gjournal) on which
I create my labels with bsdlabels (will create /dev/mirror/name.journal,
/dev/mirror/name.journala, /dev/mirror/name.journalb). Or I setup a
journalized slice on both hard drive and then I mirror /dev/ad0s1.journal
and /dev/ad1s1.journal (gjournal on top of gmirror)? I have hard time to
figure out what would be the best, if I want to avoid mirror rebuild on
power failure and I want fast fsck. I'd also like to make this setup on my
1st slice (which contains the root filesystem).


man gjournal:
...
 When gjournal is configured on top of gmirror(8) or graid3(8) 
providers,
 it also keeps them in a consistent state, thus automatic 
synchronization

 on power failure or system crash may be disabled on those providers.
...

I think journaling a mirrored partition can be much better.

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documentation for sysctl MIB

2008-11-06 Thread Ole
Hello maillist, 

I have to small question
- Where i can get documentation for description some base sysctl variables?
- And, what the diffrence between 
sysctl hw.machine hw.machine_arch
?

For example, i extract i386 installation, but my hardware is EM64T  and 
supporting AMD64 distribution correctly. Both variable get i386 value. One of 
them must be amd64?

Thanks for your time
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Re: documentation for sysctl MIB

2008-11-06 Thread Vincent Hoffman
Ole wrote:
 Hello maillist, 

 I have to small question
 - Where i can get documentation for description some base sysctl variables?
 - And, what the diffrence between 
 sysctl hw.machine hw.machine_arch
 ?

   
try sysctl -d $oid
for example:
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hw.machine: Machine class
hw.machine_arch: System architecture
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(10:24:12 ~) 0 $ sysctl  hw.machine hw.machine_arch
hw.machine: amd64
hw.machine_arch: amd64

 For example, i extract i386 installation, but my hardware is EM64T  and 
 supporting AMD64 distribution correctly. Both variable get i386 value. One of 
 them must be amd64?

   
 Thanks for your time
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Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation from floppies - has anyone tried lately?

2008-11-06 Thread Christoph Kukulies
In the vein of getting a way to install FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 onto my SATA 
IDE drive (otherwise still running 5.2.1. from IDE drives) I found in 
the seek of other methods to bootstrap myself, that the boot floppy 
hangs after asking for kern1 floppy. Could that be just bad media or 
could it have another cause. In other words: Has anyone tried to boot 
from a 7.1-BETA2 floppy set recently?


Other suggestion of how to bootstrap me from 5.2.1 to 7.1 are welcome:

Doing a cvs-sup ? (Is there still this method of updating FreeBSD? - 
I've been a while off from the front)
Making my SATA drive (/dev/ar0) bootable and putting the contents of the 
distribution into it?

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Re: Kismet on FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE

2008-11-06 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 11/6/08, Ludovit Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi,

 I am using

 iwi0: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG mem 0xfafef000-0xfafe irq 9 at
 device 3.0 on pci2


 # kldload /boot/kernel/if_iwi.ko
 # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_bss.ko
 # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_ibss.ko
 # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_monitor.ko
 # /etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant start iwi0

 which is working fine when I am using it connecting to WiFi net. When
 I am using wpa_cli scan and scan_results I can see different nets.

 I have the following configuration line in the kismet.conf file:

 source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,pcapfile

It should be:

source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,iwi0

More information is required. Can you put iwi0 into monitor mode and
use tcpdump instead?

ifconfig iwi0 monitor
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Geom multipath

2008-11-06 Thread Ganesh kamath
Hi,

I am trying to get multipath running in freebsd version 7. Are there any 
configuration files that i can tweak with geom multipath?. The paths are 
active/passive to the storage array and i dont seem to have control of what 
path the IO takes, so i was wondering if there are any tweaks thati could do to 
control the flow of IO to a specific path.

Also, the IO doesnt resume when i try to do some cable pulls and plug them back.

thanks!
Gak




  
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Re: Kismet on FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE

2008-11-06 Thread Jan Henrik Sylvester

Ludovit wrote:
 iwi0: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG mem 0xfafef000-0xfafe irq 9
 at device 3.0 on pci2

Monitor is broken on iwi on FreeBSD 7. I did report it during the 
7.0-BETA, but there was at least one more report in the meantime.


With exactly the same setup, I can use kismet with ural (ok), zyd (many 
broken packages), ral (ok), and ath (good, but see below). I do not 
receive a single package with iwi.


I did replace my iwi miniPCI device by an ath one, which is more 
reliable anyhow. (iwi, as all Intel cards, occasionally dies and cannot 
reload firmware because of too little dma memory. That was reported a 
few times, too.)


ath can monitor, even for longer periods of time, but if I do channel 
hopping in kismet, it often eventually stops receiving packages after a 
few minutes. Restarting kismet always fixes that. (I have had that with 
different ath cards.)


iwi monitoring did work on 6.2, but often the card would not do regular 
networking after that until reboot and the problem with the firmware 
mentioned above was already present, although it was much better than on 
6.1.


For monitoring, you should either get a different card or try 6.X, 
6-STABLE, or maybe 8-CURRENT. (I have no experience with the latter.)


Cheers,
Jan Henrik
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Re: Setting up gmirror

2008-11-06 Thread Gabriel Lavoie
As I asked in another thread, what is the problem with the load algorith?

Thanks

2008/11/6 Volodymyr Kostyrko [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Carl wrote:

  What are the considerations in choosing between load, prefer,
 round-robin, and split balance algorithms?


 load is currently not good at high loads, pr's pending...

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Re: gmirror + gjournal setup question

2008-11-06 Thread Gabriel Lavoie
Thanks for your reply. I finally understood that with the power failure
tests I made.

Gabriel

2008/11/6 Volodymyr Kostyrko [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Gabriel Lavoie wrote:

 Hello,
 I would like to know what is the best way to setup gmirror + gjournal,
 on a slice level on two hard drives. Do I set up a mirrored journal
 partition + mirrored journalized slice (gmirror on top of gjournal) on
 which
 I create my labels with bsdlabels (will create /dev/mirror/name.journal,
 /dev/mirror/name.journala, /dev/mirror/name.journalb). Or I setup a
 journalized slice on both hard drive and then I mirror /dev/ad0s1.journal
 and /dev/ad1s1.journal (gjournal on top of gmirror)? I have hard time to
 figure out what would be the best, if I want to avoid mirror rebuild on
 power failure and I want fast fsck. I'd also like to make this setup on my
 1st slice (which contains the root filesystem).


 man gjournal:
 ...
 When gjournal is configured on top of gmirror(8) or graid3(8)
 providers,
 it also keeps them in a consistent state, thus automatic
 synchronization
 on power failure or system crash may be disabled on those providers.
 ...

 I think journaling a mirrored partition can be much better.

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Re: Setting up gmirror

2008-11-06 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

Gabriel Lavoie wroted:

As I asked in another thread, what is the problem with the load algorith?


I've already pointed you in the other tread to 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=113885 :)


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Re: Setting up gmirror

2008-11-06 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

Carl wrote:

What are the considerations in choosing between load, prefer, 
round-robin, and split balance algorithms?


load is currently not good at high loads, pr's pending...

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Kismet on FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE

2008-11-06 Thread Ludovit Koren


Hi,

I am using 

iwi0: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG mem 0xfafef000-0xfafe irq 9 at device 
3.0 on pci2


# kldload /boot/kernel/if_iwi.ko
# kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_bss.ko
# kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_ibss.ko
# kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_monitor.ko
# /etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant start iwi0

which is working fine when I am using it connecting to WiFi net. When
I am using wpa_cli scan and scan_results I can see different nets.

I have the following configuration line in the kismet.conf file:

source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,pcapfile


I am using kismet_server and kismet_client commands but I cannot see
any received data (networks, packets, ...)

I tried 

source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,ipw2200

as well with no success. Anyone was able to succeed with kismet? Is
the Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG working with kismet at all? Any hints
greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much in advance.

Regards,

lk
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raid tool ZFS RAID-Z2 (RAID6)

2008-11-06 Thread Pieter Donche

raidz is available for Freebsd through the file system format ZFS
and is similar to RAID-5.

Is that in FreeBSD 7.0 Production release?

But there is also RAID-Z2 which uses two forms of parity to achieve
results similar to RAID6: the ability to sustain up to two drive
failures without losing data..

Does Freebsd 7.0 production release also support raid-z2?

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Assmbler Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'

2008-11-06 Thread chandra reddy
Hi,

I am building FreeBSD kernel with gcc 4.1.1. I can see the foloowing
assembler error: My assemler version is   GNU assembler 2.17


../../../../../src/bsd/sys/i386/i386/locore.s: Assembler messages:

../../../../../src/bsd/sys/i386/i386/locore.s:362: Error: suffix or
operands invalid for `mov'

../../../../../src/bsd/sys/i386/i386/locore.s:379: Error: suffix or
operands invalid for `mov'

../../../../../src/bsd/sys/i386/i386/locore.s:397: Error: suffix or
operands invalid for `mov'

*** Error code 1 (continuing)

The code in lcore.s is :

 movlUC_GS(%eax),%gs /* restore %gs */

 movlUC4_GS(%eax),%gs/* restore %gs */

 movlSC_GS(%eax),%gs /* restore %gs */

What is the patch for this problem? what should I use mov/movw?


The same errors for


bsd/sys/i386/i386/swtch.s

 movl%gs,PCB_GS(%edx)
 movlPCB_GS(%edx),%gs
 movl%gs,PCB_GS(%ecx)

bsd/sys/i386/include/cpufunc.h

 __asm __volatile(movl %%gs,%0 : =rm (sel));
 __asm __volatile(mov %0,%%fs : : rm (sel));
 __asm __volatile(movl %0,%%gs : : rm (sel));

Thanks
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hit some FS/slice size limit?

2008-11-06 Thread Christoph Kukulies
I partitioned my Seagate 500 GB Sata drive  under the FreeBSD 7.1 
sysinstall (booted from the install CD while having the drive attached 
to USB on my notebook). When creating the filesystems I chose 472 G for 
the / partition (wanted to put everything into one partition - yeah, I 
know, one should
granulate this finer, but I didn' t want to bother right now). I got 
told that it could not create the slice

(too big? it said). Hmm, is there some limit on a FreeBSD slice size?

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Re: hit some FS/slice size limit?

2008-11-06 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 03:34:55PM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote:
 I partitioned my Seagate 500 GB Sata drive  under the FreeBSD 7.1 
 sysinstall (booted from the install CD while having the drive attached 
 to USB on my notebook). When creating the filesystems I chose 472 G for 
 the / partition (wanted to put everything into one partition - yeah, I 
 know, one should
 granulate this finer, but I didn' t want to bother right now). I got 
 told that it could not create the slice
 (too big? it said). Hmm, is there some limit on a FreeBSD slice size?

There is a limit on FreeBSD slice size, but it is larger than that.

No, I suspect you just got caught out by different definitions of 'GB'
Segate (like all other harddisk manufacturers) uses the SI-prefixes
correctly and has 'G' mean one billion (1000,000,000).
So your disk is 500,000,000,000 bytes large (actually slightly more than
that.) This is about equal to 465*1024*1024*1024 or 465 of what FreeBSD (and
many other OSs) calls a 'GB'.

I.e. the 472 GB slice you tried to create is larger than the disk is.



( See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix for much information
about the different meanings of 'GB' and resulting confusion. )




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Re: Wireless Nic rtl8187se

2008-11-06 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Wilson Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi people,

 i recently bought a MSI Wind U100x and couldnt configure my wireless nic
 because it was not identified, how can i identify my wireless nic?


Was it probed on boot at all?

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Re: cvsup: local

2008-11-06 Thread Lowell Gilbert
fire jotawski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 i have my small box, 10.3.1.25 ip,  that cvsup-ed files from repository into
 it.  it use cvs-supfile in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ to collect files.
 now that i want my other machine to cvsup 6.2-release source files from the
 one mentioned above.

 my  trial was

 cvsupd -b /var/db -c sup

 for box, 10.3.1.25 ip,  and for other machine

 cvsup -g -L 2 -h 10.3.1.25 sup-file

 what i got was  'Server message: Unknown collection src-all ' message.
 and later on

 Running
 Skipping collection src-all/cvs
 Skipping collection doc-all/cvs
 Shutting down connection to server
 Finished successfully

 very strange indeed.

 any helps and hints in setting cvsup server would highly be appreciated.

To run cvsupd, you need the whole cvs tree for the collections you're
handling, not just the checked-out files.

Assuming these machines are attached by a protected network, a better
approach (easier, anyway) would probably be to cvsup the changes to
just one machine, then NFS-mount that machine's ports tree from the
other machine.

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Re: CVSup update nagios-3.0.4_1

2008-11-06 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Gian Paolo Buono [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 from web ports I have see   (
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=nagios-3stype=allsektion=all)
 that is relased the version nagios-3.0.4_1 of nagios but I have on my system
 the version nagios-3.0.3.

 Now if i try to update nagios from cvsup I run the follow comands:

 cd /usr/ports/ ; make update ; make fetchindex

 When the upgrade is finished, i run:
 portversion -l '' -v | grep nagios

 but nagios-3.0.4_1 is not present.

 This is my /etc/make.conf file:

 #make.conf#
 CPUTYPE=i686
 CFLAGS= -O -pipe
 INSTALL=install -C
 SUP_UPDATE= yes
 SUP=/usr/local/bin/cvsup
 SUPFLAGS=   -g -L 2
 SUPHOST=cvsup18.FreeBSD.org
 SUPFILE=/usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
 PORTSSUPFILE=   /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
 DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile
 WRKDIRPREFIX=   /var/tmp
 WITHOUT_GNOME=  true
 WANT_OPENSSL_MANPAGES=  true
 MAKE_IDEA=  YES
 WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=  yes
 PERL_ARCH=  mach
 NOPERL= yo
 NO_PERL=yo
 NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo
 #make.conf#


 cvsup18.FreeBSD.org has not yet updated ? Have you an idea ?

cvsup18 has the latest.  You're obviously having trouble with the
index file, because that (or a database derived therefrom) is what
portversion is looking at to determine what's out of date.

Check the ports-mgmt/nagios/Makefile to be sure it is in fact showing
the new version.

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Re: Geom multipath

2008-11-06 Thread John Nielsen
On Thursday 06 November 2008 07:13:36 am Ganesh kamath wrote:
 I am trying to get multipath running in freebsd version 7. Are there
 any configuration files that i can tweak with geom multipath?. The
 paths are active/passive to the storage array and i dont seem to have
 control of what path the IO takes, so i was wondering if there are any
 tweaks thati could do to control the flow of IO to a specific path.

Read the manpage. Thoroughly. gmultipath(8). :) There is only one active 
path to any device, and it is the first in the list of devices. You 
specify the device list when you create the provider and it is updated if 
errors occur and when gmultipath labeled devices reappear. I would 
guess/hope that the order would be preserved across a reboot but I'm not 
sure. That type of question might be suitable for the freebsd-geom@ 
mailing list.

 Also, the IO doesnt resume when i try to do some cable pulls and plug
 them back.

If you're not using an mpt or isp disk controller then you have to 
initiate a rescan manually for the device to reappear. See camcontrol 
and/or atacontrol. When the device _does_ reappear it will be inserted at 
the end of the list, so I/O will continue across the alternate path which 
is still first in the list.

JN

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RE: CVSup update nagios-3.0.4_1

2008-11-06 Thread Johan Hendriks

 from web ports I have see   (
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=nagios-3stype=allsektion=all)
 that is relased the version nagios-3.0.4_1 of nagios but I have on my system
 the version nagios-3.0.3.

 Now if i try to update nagios from cvsup I run the follow comands:

 cd /usr/ports/ ; make update ; make fetchindex

 When the upgrade is finished, i run:
 portversion -l '' -v | grep nagios

 but nagios-3.0.4_1 is not present.

 This is my /etc/make.conf file:

 #make.conf#
 CPUTYPE=i686
 CFLAGS= -O -pipe
 INSTALL=install -C
 SUP_UPDATE= yes
 SUP=/usr/local/bin/cvsup
 SUPFLAGS=   -g -L 2
 SUPHOST=cvsup18.FreeBSD.org
 SUPFILE=/usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
 PORTSSUPFILE=   /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
 DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile
 WRKDIRPREFIX=   /var/tmp
 WITHOUT_GNOME=  true
 WANT_OPENSSL_MANPAGES=  true
 MAKE_IDEA=  YES
 WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=  yes
 PERL_ARCH=  mach
 NOPERL= yo
 NO_PERL=yo
 NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo
 #make.conf#


 cvsup18.FreeBSD.org has not yet updated ? Have you an idea ?

cvsup18 has the latest.  You're obviously having trouble with the
index file, because that (or a database derived therefrom) is what
portversion is looking at to determine what's out of date.

Check the ports-mgmt/nagios/Makefile to be sure it is in fact showing
the new version.

I had the same thing, the makefile has the latest, butpkg_version did not 
detect the new nagios.
What I did was going to /usr/port/net-mgmt/nagios
And did a:
 make FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=yes install clean
It installed nagios 3.0.4

Regards,
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Re: Kismet on FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE

2008-11-06 Thread Ludovit Koren

 On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:12:23 +0100
 [EMAIL PROTECTED](Paul B. Mahol)  said:
 
 On 11/6/08, Ludovit Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I am using
 
  iwi0: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG mem 0xfafef000-0xfafe irq 9 at
  device 3.0 on pci2
 
 
  # kldload /boot/kernel/if_iwi.ko
  # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_bss.ko
  # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_ibss.ko
  # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_monitor.ko
  # /etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant start iwi0
 
  which is working fine when I am using it connecting to WiFi net. When
  I am using wpa_cli scan and scan_results I can see different nets.
 
  I have the following configuration line in the kismet.conf file:
 
  source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,pcapfile
 
 It should be:
 
 source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,iwi0

I tried it even with this, no success

 
 More information is required. Can you put iwi0 into monitor mode and
 use tcpdump instead?
 
 ifconfig iwi0 monitor
 

I cannot capture any packet.

lk
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Re: CVSup update nagios-3.0.4_1

2008-11-06 Thread Mel
On Thursday 06 November 2008 16:20:13 Johan Hendriks wrote:

  cd /usr/ports/ ; make update ; make fetchindex
 
  When the upgrade is finished, i run:
  portversion -l '' -v | grep nagios
 
  but nagios-3.0.4_1 is not present.

[cut make.conf]

 cvsup18 has the latest.  You're obviously having trouble with the
 index file, because that (or a database derived therefrom) is what
 portversion is looking at to determine what's out of date.
 
 Check the ports-mgmt/nagios/Makefile to be sure it is in fact showing
 the new version.

 I had the same thing, the makefile has the latest, butpkg_version did not
 detect the new nagios. What I did was going to /usr/port/net-mgmt/nagios
 And did a:
  make FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=yes install clean
 It installed nagios 3.0.4

Lowell is correct. You need to run `portsdb -uU' after any modification of the 
ports tree for the portupgrade tools to see new versions.

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Re: Kismet on FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE

2008-11-06 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 11/6/08, Ludovit Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:12:23 +0100
 [EMAIL PROTECTED](Paul B. Mahol)  said:

 On 11/6/08, Ludovit Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I am using
 
  iwi0: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG mem 0xfafef000-0xfafe irq 9 at
  device 3.0 on pci2
 
 
  # kldload /boot/kernel/if_iwi.ko
  # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_bss.ko
  # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_ibss.ko
  # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_monitor.ko
  # /etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant start iwi0
 
  which is working fine when I am using it connecting to WiFi net. When
  I am using wpa_cli scan and scan_results I can see different nets.
 
  I have the following configuration line in the kismet.conf file:
 
  source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,pcapfile

 It should be:

 source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,iwi0

 I tried it even with this, no success


 More information is required. Can you put iwi0 into monitor mode and
 use tcpdump instead?

 ifconfig iwi0 monitor


 I cannot capture any packet.

Then it is iwi driver problem.
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Hardware Raid + hot-replace failed disk

2008-11-06 Thread Pieter Donche

Suppose you have a system with multiple disks managed by a
hardware RAID controller in a RAID5 of RAID6 configuration,

To FreeBSD it will look like e.g. a single large drive.

If you want to extend your disk space by plugging in an extra
disk, the hardware RAID controller will probably detect it and
add it in his management, but will it be seen by FreeBSD?

How can you make the added disk-space available for FreeBSD.
Can this be done without shutting down the system? How??

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what is your programming language on freebsd?

2008-11-06 Thread Foo JH
Hi there,

Earlier I was asking for some help getting XSP/ mod_mono on FreeBSD. I
may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression is that mono
on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea.

To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD community:
1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD?
2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language?
3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development platform, or is it
better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS server)?

Thanks.
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Re: what is your programming language on freebsd?

2008-11-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 12:10:41AM +0800, Foo JH wrote:

 Hi there,
 
 Earlier I was asking for some help getting XSP/ mod_mono on FreeBSD. I
 may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression is that mono
 on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea.
 
 To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD community:
 1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD?
 2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language?
 3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development platform, or is it
 better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS server)?

FreeBSD suppports just about any programming language that has
been created. If you go to /usr/ports/lang/   you will see
a large list of them that you can install.

As for the most common, well, C and C++, Shells such as SH, CSH/TCSH
and Perl are very common, plus in conjunction with web servers such
as Apache, PHP, Python, Ruby and a number of others are common.
If you are doing number crunching, you can use FORTRAN and if you
are in to historical business environments, there is even Cobol.

As for being optimized for a language, it is more likely the other
way around.  Are there any languages that have good optimization
for running on FreeBSD.   Maybe.   Someone else may know more about
that, than I do.

jerry

 
 Thanks.
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Ideal SCSI adapter for me?

2008-11-06 Thread Kirk Strauser
I have a FreeBSD 7/amd64 system with a newly incompatible SCSI adapter (see 
kern/128452 for details).  I want to switch to a card that's still supported 
but don't want to spend an arm and a leg since its whole purpose in live will 
be to connect my UW-SCSI tape drive.  Any recommendations for cheap, minimal 
cards that are known to work well with recent FreeBSD releases?
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Re: Ideal SCSI adapter for me?

2008-11-06 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:36:26 -0600, Kirk Strauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a FreeBSD 7/amd64 system with a newly incompatible SCSI adapter (see 
 kern/128452 for details).  I want to switch to a card that's still supported 
 but don't want to spend an arm and a leg since its whole purpose in live will 
 be to connect my UW-SCSI tape drive.  Any recommendations for cheap, minimal 
 cards that are known to work well with recent FreeBSD releases?

I had used an Adaptec 2940 U/W PCI SCSI controller to connect a
tape drive, no problems; the ahc driver (from vers. 4 up to 7)
worked well. It would even run a scanner, a JAZ drive, a CD-ROM
drive and a PD drive (if anyone still knows what this is), as
well as different hard disks.



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Re: what is your programming language on freebsd?

2008-11-06 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 12:10:41AM +0800, Foo JH wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 Earlier I was asking for some help getting XSP/ mod_mono on FreeBSD. I
 may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression is that mono
 on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea.

As a re-implementation of microsofts .NET, I personally wouldn't touch
it with a ten foot pole. Although some parts are an ECMA standard, as
a developer you can never be sure that microsoft won't hit you with a
patent lawsuit if they perceive you as treading on their
turf. Experience has taught the microsoft cannot be trusted.

 To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD community:
 1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD?

See all the ports in /usr/ports/lang. For systems programming or if
speed is of the essence, I use C. For scripting the standard Bourne
Shell (sh) is still OK. For massaging large quantities of text, Perl
still works very well, and there is a huge number of modules (libraries)
available.  Lua is becoming a new personal favorite of mine for
scripts. It is fast, small and easy. 

 2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language?

No. Performance of scripting languages is usually not a big problem
anymore because of the increased speed of new computers. And it depends
more on the interpreter of the language in question than on the host
OS. Of course compiled languages can run faster than interpreted ones.

 3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development platform, or is it
 better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS server)?

There is no big difference between FreeBSD and Linux here. Pretty much
everything that runs on Linux runs on FreeBSD as well. Both are a pretty
popular development platforms, e.g. for web apps. Think PHP, Ruby on
Rails etc. 

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Openoffice 3.0.0 - spellchecker not functioning

2008-11-06 Thread Mike Clarke
I've installed en-openoffice.org-GB-3.0.0 from ports on my 6.4-RC1 
system. The install, using the command  
portinstall  -m LOCALIZED_LANG=en-GB -DWITH_KDE 
editors/openoffice.org-3, appeared to complete OK and I can 
run /usr/local/bin/openoffice.org-3.0.0-swriter but attempts to check 
spelling in a document with known spelling errors always fail to find 
any errors.

The Available language modules section in Tools - Options - Language 
Settings - Writing Aids is empty, unlike my copy of Openoffice 2.3 
which has 3 entries in this section.

Should the language modules have been installed or have I missed 
anything when installing the port?

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Re: what is your programming language on freebsd?

2008-11-06 Thread mdh
--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Foo JH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Foo JH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: what is your programming language on freebsd?
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 11:10 AM
 Hi there,
 
 Earlier I was asking for some help getting XSP/ mod_mono on
 FreeBSD. I
 may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression
 is that mono
 on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea.

I am not sure what leads you to believe that.  Mono in general isn't as popular 
as, say, GNU's compiler collection.  That said, it runs just fine on FreeBSD.  
There are motivated folks working to get more ports added, such as for 
monodevelop.  

There's a google group for this, though, it's called bsd-sharp.  You may want 
to try there if you have problems related to Mono on FreeBSD and there aren't 
any helpful answers forthcoming on the seemingly-appropriate freebsd.org list.  

 
 To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD
 community:
 1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD?

I've worked with C, Perl, C# (mono), and Ruby.  

There are very few programming languages that you can't use to write code that 
is intended to run on FreeBSD.  Most of these are anachronistic languages that 
no longer serve a useful purpose on any reasonably modern system, having been 
defunct for 20 or more years.  

 2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any
 particular language?

No more than any other OS.  Some languages may be better optimized than others, 
but you can't really optimize an OS to a language.  

 3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development
 platform, or is it
 better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS
 server)?

FreeBSD is a fine development platform.  In fact, it offers some things that 
developers like that other systems don't have.  kqueue is very nice, and there 
are also little things such as the reallocf() function that are helpful as 
well.  

- mdh



  
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Re: Ideal SCSI adapter for me?

2008-11-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I have a FreeBSD 7/amd64 system with a newly incompatible SCSI adapter (see
kern/128452 for details).  I want to switch to a card that's still supported
but don't want to spend an arm and a leg since its whole purpose in live will
be to connect my UW-SCSI tape drive.  Any recommendations for cheap, minimal
cards that are known to work well with recent FreeBSD releases?


any used adaptec or symbios logic will work for sure.

in Poland UW-SCSI adapters are for 20$ used :)
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Re: Hardware Raid + hot-replace failed disk

2008-11-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Suppose you have a system with multiple disks managed by a
hardware RAID controller in a RAID5 of RAID6 configuration,


what is RAID5 of RAID6???



To FreeBSD it will look like e.g. a single large drive.

If you want to extend your disk space by plugging in an extra
disk, the hardware RAID controller will probably detect it and
add it in his management, but will it be seen by FreeBSD?


FreeBSD will see larger drive.

you then have to fix partition table (use bsdlabel -e)

fix c partition to be actually sized of whole drive, and then

a) add new partition(s) for new space
b) extend the size of last partition and use growfs


How can you make the added disk-space available for FreeBSD.
Can this be done without shutting down the system? How??


i don't think FreeBSD can be told to reget device info from controller 
when partitions of that device are mounted. but i may be wrong

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Re: what is your programming language on freebsd?

2008-11-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar

may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression is that mono
on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea.

To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD community:
1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD?


whatever i need. i personally use mostly C.


2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language?


i don't think so.


3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development platform, or is it
better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS server)?


i don't know how popular it is for what tasks. but it works excellent for 
all you specified. it's unix anyway.

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Re: what is your programming language on freebsd?

2008-11-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar

on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea.


As a re-implementation of microsofts .NET, I personally wouldn't touch
it with a ten foot pole. Although some parts are an ECMA standard, as
a developer you can never be sure that microsoft won't hit you with a
patent lawsuit if they perceive you as treading on their
turf. Experience has taught the microsoft cannot be trusted.


as all portable things microsoft created will actually work completely 
only in windows. anyway - i don't see any sense in using it if you are not 
forced to use windows.


if you are - it would be better to use windows for that.


2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language?


No. Performance of scripting languages is usually not a big problem
anymore because of the increased speed of new computers. And it depends


scripting language are not made to be fast running, but to mix many 
other programs to get result fast and easy.



more on the interpreter of the language in question than on the host
OS. Of course compiled languages can run faster than interpreted ones.


as on every OS.

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Re: hit some FS/slice size limit?

2008-11-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I partitioned my Seagate 500 GB Sata drive  under the FreeBSD 7.1 sysinstall 
(booted from the install CD while having the drive attached to USB on my 
notebook). When creating the filesystems I chose 472 G for the / partition 
(wanted to put everything into one partition - yeah, I know, one should


no - it's actually the best choice - one partition+swap, or no swap on 
modern machines with many GB RAM.


granulate this finer, but I didn' t want to bother right now). I got told 
that it could not create the slice

(too big? it said). Hmm, is there some limit on a FreeBSD slice size?


no idea. i don't use slices because my FreeBSD drives doesn't need to 
interoperate with DOS/Windoze.


i never use sysinstall too :), simply use disklabel without making slices, 
make partitions and go on.


my largest drive (gstripe) was 3TB, works fine with bsdlabel and UFS
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Re: Setting up gmirror

2008-11-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar


What are the considerations in choosing between load, prefer, 
round-robin, and split balance algorithms?


load is currently not good at high loads, pr's pending...



so change it to round-robin?
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Re: Hardware Raid + hot-replace failed disk

2008-11-06 Thread Mel
On Thursday 06 November 2008 22:01:39 Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  Suppose you have a system with multiple disks managed by a
  hardware RAID controller in a RAID5 of RAID6 configuration,

 what is RAID5 of RAID6???

'of' is 'or' in dutch, common typo for dutch or flemish people.

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Re: hit some FS/slice size limit?

2008-11-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 10:09:25PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

 I partitioned my Seagate 500 GB Sata drive  under the FreeBSD 7.1 
 sysinstall (booted from the install CD while having the drive attached to 
 USB on my notebook). When creating the filesystems I chose 472 G for the / 
 partition (wanted to put everything into one partition - yeah, I know, one 
 should
 
 no - it's actually the best choice - one partition+swap, or no swap on 
 modern machines with many GB RAM.

Remember, best depends on cirsumstance and need.  It is definitely
not best for all.   But, it works well for some.

It is usually good to separate OS from services and data, but not always.
It is also often helpful to divide things in to manageable sized chunks,
but that is not always meaningful.

jerry

 
 granulate this finer, but I didn' t want to bother right now). I got told 
 that it could not create the slice
 (too big? it said). Hmm, is there some limit on a FreeBSD slice size?
 
 no idea. i don't use slices because my FreeBSD drives doesn't need to 
 interoperate with DOS/Windoze.
 
 i never use sysinstall too :), simply use disklabel without making slices, 
 make partitions and go on.
 
 my largest drive (gstripe) was 3TB, works fine with bsdlabel and UFS
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flexible install.cfg url from kernel parameters

2008-11-06 Thread Harm Weites
Hi all,

in an effort to create a jumpstart/kickstart-like environment for easy
OS deployment i, ofcourse, ran into install.cfg for FreeBSD. It works
great, but since it requires a modified image (with an inserted
install.cfg file) it's not a great option. It even needs a BSD box or
CentOS with plus kernel to access the ufs filesystem inside the image...

Is there any effort beeing done to allow for a more convenient way to
load the install.cfg? Say, like linux does with kickstart/preseed files?
Just fill in some weblocation as kernel parameter and you're done :)

I would suspect this beeing coded in sysinstall somewhere, or perhaps
init?

Any suggestions/help is appreciated.

Regards

Harm

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Re: what is your programming language on freebsd?

2008-11-06 Thread cpghost
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 10:06:15PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language?
 
  No. Performance of scripting languages is usually not a big problem
  anymore because of the increased speed of new computers. And it depends
 
 scripting language are not made to be fast running, but to mix many 
 other programs to get result fast and easy.

Most scripting languages can be used in hybrid environments, and will
be pretty fast if they call compiled functions for CPU-intensive
tasks.

As an example: in Python, you can call compiled functions in dynamic
libraries directly with the ctypes module; no need to recompile
anything directly. Alternatively or in addition to this, just write
your own extension module in C/Python either manually, or with code
generators like SWIG to optimize CPU bottlenecks or call into / link
against other compiled code.

Hybrid systems are usually very fast to set up, yet don't
significantly sacrifice speed. Ever used numpy, scipy etc. with
optimized C and FORTRAN libraries (ATLAS, FFTW3 etc.) in Python for
big numeric computations? Works like a charm and is pretty fast too.

-cpghost.

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Re: console locked again:: load over 2.00

2008-11-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 08:53:20PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:45:10AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
  
  Hey guys,
  
  Any ideas *why* my load is so high when my desktop wasn't touched for
  9, 10 hours?  I was running mostly KDE3 konsoles, and had a few other
  processes going, the apps iconisized.  The server is still running;
  I've killed everything I can think of to reduce the load.  It may be
  that the screen won't come back if the load is  1.00.  I'm upgrading
  my kernel to see if *that* has any effect.  O/wise, I'm out of ideas.
 
 Try leaving 'top -SI' running in a console window. That should tell you what
 the culprit is.
 

Looks like gnome-xscreensaver went nutso after several hours.  This
morning I found my FreeBSD screen about a third full of green and yellow
fuzz or blur.  This time, I KVM'd over to ubuntu and did a shutdown
and reboot at once; then killed the screen saver after getting back into
KDE3.

I was just listening to KMplayer and watching sites with required 
kde-gnash.
When I Closed[*] the sites and killed the newscast, my load was still  
1.50
so I did a killall of the kde-gnash.  Needs to be some way of 
controlling
the number of kde-gnashes that are spawned.  After the killall, xload
shows my load back down to practically nothing.

--Still having trouble with *firefox* + flash, but that's another 
rat's nest.

gary

[*] iconizied


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Kopete + MSN

2008-11-06 Thread Warren Liddell

Im using FreeBSD7.1-PreRelease  KDE 4.1.3, with Kopete 0.60.3

Wondering when the MSN protocol is going to work again along with yahoo? 
Im presently having to run 2 seperate ports to connect to both of these 
when Kopete generally is meant to do both.


Any ideas//suggestions welcome.
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(no subject)

2008-11-06 Thread SAM HAYNES

Greetings, O Learned Ones
from:  Sam Haynes, Pathfinders 2008

I haven't the foggiest as to how you came to be in my favorites list, 
other than that I probably tagged you in an ongoing search for both or 
either something to replace Win XP  and or build my own personal server.


I have been usining XP for several years now.  Recently, I tried to 
install XP from my OEM cd and was notified by Gates and Company that XP 
would no longer be supported. Bummer! So what else is new?  Time to part 
company with Bill? Vista was tha final straw.


I need something that will replace XP in all the essentials but without 
a useless bag full of coverups for poor performance..


Debian was the first encouraging encounter. It was recommended as a 
cheap entry into the personal server concept, using a two to three year 
old PC chassis. Sounded good but I could never figure out just how to 
download it.


So, FreeBSD appears in my fave list and server appears in the same 
paragraph as operating system.  Here is my plan.


I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a wife 
of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong belief that 
I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing despite the 
current economic crisis.


My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp to 
promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds from 
that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' products 
over a hundred or more websites.


All using ready to serve apps and a WYSIWYG HTML  generator.

I appreciate your time reading this over long monologue... I'd 
appreciate it even more if you could take some time to throw some 
suggestions back at me..


Thanks,

Sam I Am, PATHFINDERS 2008

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Re: (no subject)

2008-11-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 07:45:07PM -0500, SAM HAYNES wrote:

 Greetings, O Learned Ones
 from:  Sam Haynes, Pathfinders 2008
 
 I haven't the foggiest as to how you came to be in my favorites list, 
 other than that I probably tagged you in an ongoing search for both or 
 either something to replace Win XP  and or build my own personal server.
 
 I have been usining XP for several years now.  Recently, I tried to 
 install XP from my OEM cd and was notified by Gates and Company that XP 
 would no longer be supported. Bummer! So what else is new?  Time to part 
 company with Bill? Vista was tha final straw.
 
 I need something that will replace XP in all the essentials but without 
 a useless bag full of coverups for poor performance..
 
 Debian was the first encouraging encounter. It was recommended as a 
 cheap entry into the personal server concept, using a two to three year 
 old PC chassis. Sounded good but I could never figure out just how to 
 download it.
 
 So, FreeBSD appears in my fave list and server appears in the same 
 paragraph as operating system.  Here is my plan.
 
 I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a wife 
 of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong belief that 
 I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing despite the 
 current economic crisis.
 
 My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp to 
 promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds from 
 that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' products 
 over a hundred or more websites.
 
 All using ready to serve apps and a WYSIWYG HTML  generator.
 
 I appreciate your time reading this over long monologue... I'd 
 appreciate it even more if you could take some time to throw some 
 suggestions back at me..

Well, you have to judge if your product has legs for the market place.
But, FreeBSD would be a very good platform to host your server
if you choose to go ahead with doing this.

FreeBSD is quite different from MS-Win stuff.I would advise
finding some space on a machine and installing and using it for
a bit to get past the initial learning curve - which can be
quite steep for a person whose main background is in MS-Win.
But, once you get the hang of it you will begin to see the
advantages.   FreeBSD expects you to actually manage it.  It is
not a handholding or keep-its-distance-from-the-user type of
system like MS-Win or even MAC-OSen.You can get right down to
the bits if you want or need.   But, there are very good tools
and documentation (once you get used to the stule) that will make
it all work just fine.

jerry
  
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sam I Am, PATHFINDERS 2008
 
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Firewire problem

2008-11-06 Thread Mike Jeays
I bought a PCI/Firewire card and cable, and used it to connect my Sony PV-GS80 
camcorder, which uses MiniDV tapes and has a Firewire socket.  I get the 
following messages in /var/log/messages, which suggest the Firewire card may 
be a bad one.

# Turn camera on
Nov  6 20:40:00 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: txd err= 0 No stat
Nov  6 20:40:00 pcbsd kernel: firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop = 1, cable IRM = 1
Nov  6 20:40:01 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: unrecoverable error
Nov  6 20:40:01 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: BUS reset
Nov  6 20:40:01 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: node_id=0x8800ffc0, gen=3, non 
CYCLEMASTER mode
Nov  6 20:40:01 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: txd err= 0 No stat
Nov  6 20:40:01 pcbsd kernel: firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop = 1, cable IRM = 1
Nov  6 20:40:01 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: unrecoverable error

# Try running kino
Nov  6 20:40:56 pcbsd kernel: pid 8206 (kino), uid 1001: exited on signal 11

# Turn camera off
Nov  6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: too many cycle lost, no cycle master 
presents?
Nov  6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: BUS reset
Nov  6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=4, CYCLEMASTER 
mode
Nov  6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop = 0, cable IRM = 0 
(me)
Nov  6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)
Nov  6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: unrecoverable error
Nov  6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: fw_xfer_free FWXF_START

Kino segfaults when I press the 'Capture' button.

This is with PC-BSD 7.0 on a test machine.  I have a similar lack of success 
on a Linux machine, with the same card.

Should I buy a new card, or is there anything else worth trying first?
-- 
Mike Jeays
http://www.jeays.ca
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recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread FBSD1
Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output document in
ms/word format.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread mdh
OpenOffice.org 3.  There's a port.  

- mdh

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: recommendation word processer for xfce
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
 Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:40 PM
 Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output
 document in
 ms/word format.
 
 Thanks for your help.



  
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RE: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread FBSD1
I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd 
release
6 stable.
It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

-Original Message-
From: mdh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

OpenOffice.org 3.  There's a port.

- mdh

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: recommendation word processer for xfce
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
 Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:40 PM
 Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output
 document in
 ms/word format.

 Thanks for your help.





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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:01 PM, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd 
 release
 6 stable.
It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

There is a package available.  I installed it yesterday.  Look at the ftp site.

-- 
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Replace XP with FreeBSD (was Re: (no subject))

2008-11-06 Thread Chris Hill

On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, SAM HAYNES wrote:


Greetings, O Learned Ones
from:  Sam Haynes, Pathfinders 2008

I haven't the foggiest as to how you came to be in my favorites list, 
other than that I probably tagged you in an ongoing search for both or 
either something to replace Win XP and or build my own personal 
server.


I have been usining XP for several years now.  Recently, I tried to 
install XP from my OEM cd and was notified by Gates and Company that 
XP would no longer be supported. Bummer! So what else is new?  Time to 
part company with Bill? Vista was tha final straw.


I need something that will replace XP in all the essentials but 
without a useless bag full of coverups for poor performance..


It depends on what you consider essential. I have been using FreeBSD as 
my daily desktop for maybe 10 years now. The only complaint I have is 
that Adobe steadfastly refuses to let us run a useable Flash player. 
Even that is Adobe's fault, not FreeBSD's.


Debian was the first encouraging encounter. It was recommended as a 
cheap entry into the personal server concept, using a two to three 
year old PC chassis. Sounded good but I could never figure out just 
how to download it.


If you should decide to give FreeBSD a shot, all you need is the disc1 
image from 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/7.1/ -Well, 
also of course, a suitable machine on which to install. FreeBSD is a 
*lot* less resource-hungry than Windows in my experience.


7.1 is in beta right this minute, but it seems that release is imminent. 
There should be an announcement on the website when the time comes.


Anyway, the idea is to download the ISO file, burn it to a CD, and boot 
the CD. If you're in the learing/experimenting phase, I would strongly 
suggest not doing the experiment on your only computer. You'll probably 
appreciate having a working web browser, email, etc. during the process.


If you're used to Windows, this will be quite different. I like that 
FreeBSD does what you tell it to, not what it thought you might have 
wanted. Of course, that's a double-edged sword.


So, FreeBSD appears in my fave list and server appears in the same 
paragraph as operating system.  Here is my plan.


I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a 
wife of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong 
belief that I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing 
despite the current economic crisis.


Good. You have been building PCs -and- doing wiring a lot longer than I 
have been doing either. Nobody needs to tell you what an IRQ is, or why 
a loose neutral might be a problem.


My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp 
to promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds 
from that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' 
products over a hundred or more websites.


I have no business sense, and can't comment on the model. But I can say 
that you'd be hard-pressed to find a better server platform than 
FreeBSD.


HTH, and good luck with the plan.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread Sahil Tandon
FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd release
 6 stable. It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

Please don't top-post.  OpenOffice packages are available via the
FreeBSD FTP sites.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread John Nielsen
 --- On Thu, 11/6/08, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: recommendation word processer for xfce
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
  Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:40 PM
  Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output
  document in
  ms/word format.
 
On Thursday 06 November 2008, FBSD1 wrote:
   I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd
 release 6 stable.
   It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

Take a look at abiword.

JN
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RE: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread FBSD1
Error: FTP Unable to get
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7
.1-release/Latest/openoffice.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no
access)

Where did you get the package from or what name did you use for the package?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Glen Barber
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG
Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:01 PM, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd
release
 6 stable.
It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

There is a package available.  I installed it yesterday.  Look at the ftp
site.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:32 PM, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Error: FTP Unable to get
 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7
 .1-release/Latest/openoffice.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no
 access)

 Where did you get the package from or what name did you use for the package?


ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.4-release/All/openoffice.org-2.4.1_2.tbz

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RE: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread FBSD1
Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about it.
sorry

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sahil Tandon
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:18 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd release
 6 stable. It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

Please don't top-post.  OpenOffice packages are available via the
FreeBSD FTP sites.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:34 PM, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about it.
 sorry


You could disable include original message.

Or use better software.

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RE: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread joeb

 
On Thursday 06 November 2008, FBSD1 wrote:
   I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd
 release 6 stable.
   It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

Take a look at abiword.

***
I installed abiword but it has bug on start up wanting to access some
server.
Gives popup window about error contacting some server. After clicking on OK
button it works ok. But can't have error every time on startup




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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread Matt Emmerton

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:34 PM, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about 
it.

sorry



You could disable include original message.

Or use better software.


Or just scroll down the to bottom of the message before typing anything.

--
Matt

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spell check - how to?

2008-11-06 Thread Eitan Adler
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[cc to -questions as it might be a general question]

I'm looking to do a full spell check/fix on the handbook.
I found make spellcheck-txt which apparently removed certain items
that would not go well through a spell checker - however I don't know
how to actually run the spellcheck itself.

I have aspell installed.
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Re: Hardware Raid + hot-replace failed disk

2008-11-06 Thread perryh
 On Thursday 06 November 2008 22:01:39 Wojciech Puchar wrote:
   Suppose you have a system with multiple disks managed by a
   hardware RAID controller in a RAID5 of RAID6 configuration,
 
  what is RAID5 of RAID6???

 'of' is 'or' in dutch, common typo for dutch or flemish people.

For Americans also, due to f and r being adjacent
on a US-English keyboard.
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Re: spell check - how to?

2008-11-06 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:42:52 -0500, Eitan Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [cc to -questions as it might be a general question]

Hi Eitan :-)

 I'm looking to do a full spell check/fix on the handbook.  I found
 make spellcheck-txt which apparently removed certain items that
 would not go well through a spell checker - however I don't know how
 to actually run the spellcheck itself.

 I have aspell installed.

You will probably have to tweak the ISPELLOPTS to use aspell.  The
current spellcheck targets use a default ISPELLOPTS with a value of:

%%%
doc/el/share/mk/doc.project.mk:ISPELL?= ispell
doc/el/share/mk/doc.project.mk:ISPELLOPTS?= -l -p /usr/share/dict/freebsd 
${ISPELLFLAGS}
%%%

The -l option is not supported by aspell, so the following spellcheck
run fails:

: % pwd
: /ws/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing
: % env ISPELL=aspell make FORMATS=txt spellcheck
: Spellcheck article.txt
: Error: You must specify a parameter for -l.
: *** Error code 1
:

But you can set ISPELL and ISPELLOPTS in the runtime environment to pass
aspell-compatible options:

: % env ISPELL=aspell ISPELLOPTS='list' make FORMATS=txt spellcheck
: Spellcheck article.txt
: jcamou
: IEEE
: ...

Unfortunately, the wordlist at `/usr/share/dict/freebsd' is not usable
with aspell right now, so if you try to use it you will get errors like:

: env ISPELL=aspell \
: ISPELLOPTS='-p /usr/share/dict/freebsd ${ISPELLFLAGS}' \
: ISPELLFLAGS='list' make FORMATS=txt spellcheck
: Spellcheck article.txt
: Error: The file /usr/share/dict/freebsd is not in the proper format.
: *** Error code 1

The main drawback of being unable to use the `freebsd' wordlist is that
you will get many false positives for words that are perfectly valid for
FreeBSD documentation but are not standard English words.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread Ross Cameron
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:34 AM, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about
 it.
 sorry


Ditch Outlook and use Evolution or Thunderbird or KMail or hell anything
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