Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Chad Perrin
Disclaimer: I do not represent the FreeBSD project in any way, shape, or form. I am certain any such people would be much nicer and more polite about this than me. I'm sure I would be much nicer and more polite about it if I became a representative of the FreeBSD project at some point in the

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: It's a cartoon character. It's not an attempt to lure your children to join Satan's armies. There's no reason to be deterred from giving FreeBSD a try just because of a friendly cartoon character. I'm reminded of when some Christian groups

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Bernt Hansson
David Brodbeck said the following on 2010-07-24 09:05: Call it BlessedBSD (BleSseD?) or something. ;) BBsd? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Bernt Hansson
Victor Skovorodnikov said the following on 2010-07-24 04:01: Hi! This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a logo for BSD? What is the meaning of that logo? I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get deterred by its un-Christian logo.

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 24/07/2010 08:38:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: Victor Skovorodnikov said the following on 2010-07-24 04:01: Hi! This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a logo for BSD? What is the meaning of that logo? I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Frank Shute
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 09:21:48AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 24/07/2010 08:38:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: Victor Skovorodnikov said the following on 2010-07-24 04:01: Hi! This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a logo for BSD? What is the meaning of

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread krad
On 24 July 2010 11:21, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 09:21:48AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 24/07/2010 08:38:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: Victor Skovorodnikov said the following on 2010-07-24 04:01: Hi! This may sound strange but I have a question

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread b. f.
I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get deterred by its un-Christian logo. It's amazing how exercised people get over a topic like this, like in that old story: http://www.milk.com/true-stories/unix_for_the_masses.html I think it's a pretty dumb logo myself,

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:05:14 -0700, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: I'm reminded of when some Christian groups called for a boycott of Apple because they had an OS project code-named Darwin. Some people will just go out of their way to look for reasons to take offense. I'm reminded to

8.1 is available

2010-07-24 Thread Aiza
Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2010-07-24 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Gautham Ganapathy gauth...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have an Alienware m11x with a Dell 1520 wireless minicard (Broadcom BCM4353 chipset). It comes with only Windows 7 drivers, but I was able to download Windows XP drivers seperately. However, after I generate the

Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2010-07-24 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 + Paul B Mahol one...@gmail.com articulated: Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization. I fixed this in my own git repo, but fpudna in kernel mode (my understanding is that it is

28amen.org : trying to portinstall ffmpeg

2010-07-24 Thread John Francis Lee
Hello... I'm trying to sudo portinstall ffmpeg but I've run into problems with mpfr Stop in /ports/math/mpfr. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/binscript -qa /tmp/portinstall20100724-99593-ob933z-0 env make The freebsd server software at viaverio is old FreeBSD 28amen.org

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Alejandro Imass
2010/7/23 Victor Skovorodnikov vic...@mail.ru: Hi! This may sound strange but I have a question about logo.  Why such a logo for BSD?  What is the meaning of that logo? Strange in deed, it sounds. At first I really thought it was funny, but after consulting the infinite wisdom of my wife

Re: 8.1 is available

2010-07-24 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Aiza wrote: Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. Has it been announced anywhere? Downloads have been available for some days. Generally

Re: 8.1 is available

2010-07-24 Thread Daniel Grant
On 24/07/2010 16:05, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Aiza wrote: Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. Has it been announced anywhere? Downloads have

Re: 8.1 is available

2010-07-24 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Ansar Mohammed wrote: I think it's been announced on the front page of freebsd.org http://freebsd.org. You think I should wait for somthing more formal? You're right it's on the website but didn't come through in my RSS feed for some reason (which I set up to watch for the announcement :p).

Re: 8.1 is available

2010-07-24 Thread Ansar Mohammed
I think it's been announced on the front page of freebsd.org. You think I should wait for somthing more formal? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.comwrote: Aiza wrote: Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a new RELEASE is

Re: Tv-card for freebsd

2010-07-24 Thread Juergen Lock
In article aanlktil5_9vmp3zal-4knwx-lblrpwz6dcxq4cora...@mail.gmail.com you write: On 7/14/10, Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net wrote: Hello list! I'm in the process of buying a tv-card for dvb-t transmissions. Any tips on cards that have a driver for freebsd? Thank you. For a built-in

Automake installed

2010-07-24 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Just had a quick look in my installed ports and found out that I have multiple versions of automake installed: automake-1.10.1: ok automake-1.4.6_5: ok automake-1.5_5,1: ok automake-1.9.6_3: ok automake-wrapper-20071109: ok Is this common or should I get rid of all automake-1.9.x versions? How

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Victor, On 24-7-2010 4:01, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: Have you considered changing it to something else? Doesn't have to be an angel, but perhaps something neutral ;-) ? Seeing something in it that isn't there at all or perhaps wanting to see something that isn't there at all in fact is

Re: 8.1 is available

2010-07-24 Thread Remko Lodder
On Jul 24, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Aiza wrote: Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. Then there must be a reason that the announce@ mailinglist

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Victor, On 24-7-2010 4:01, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: Have you considered changing it to something else? Doesn't have to be an angel, but perhaps something neutral ;-) ? Seeing something in it that isn't there at all or perhaps wanting to see something that isn't there at all in fact is

Re: Port upgrade problem

2010-07-24 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Petre Bandac pe...@kgb.ro writes: While upgrading port, I have the following problems: - some cfg files are overwritten (authdaemon's authmysqlrc) I can't figure out what port that comes from, so I can't help. - some make install options are not kept (maildrop - not compiled against mysql

Re: popt-1.50 or better??

2010-07-24 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes: hey y'all, there is a program called libots [or ots] that acts to summarize text that i'd like to port to freebsd. i grabbed the src from scourceforge days ago and found that i need a later version of popt than we have. we've got v 1.14 of popt and the

Re: Automake installed

2010-07-24 Thread RW
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:19:56 +0200 Jos Chrispijn ker...@webrz.net wrote: Just had a quick look in my installed ports and found out that I have multiple versions of automake installed: ... Is this common yes, it's normal ___

Cannot from Opera

2010-07-24 Thread Martin Schweizer
Hello My system: FreeBSD 8.1 AMD64, KDE 4.4.5, cups-base-1.4.3 I can print from Firefox, OpenOffice and all KDE applications over cups but not from Opera: - opera-10.10.20091120_2 - opera-linuxplugins-10.10.20091120_2 I also checked http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/481/ but with no luck

Re: Automake installed

2010-07-24 Thread Andres Perera
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Jos Chrispijn ker...@webrz.net wrote: Is this common or should I get rid of all automake-1.9.x versions? How could I do such best? There are numerous tools for doing this; e.g., pkg_cutleaves and pkg_rmleaves. This is common because not all ports build with a

Re: why do I require WPA in rc.conf even for open networks.

2010-07-24 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 22 July 2010 22:03, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: For some reason I can not connect to *any* wireless network regardless of the connection type unless I have WPA in /etc/rc.conf right before DHCP. Why would I require this to connect to open networks? -- Eitan Adler

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Saturday, 24 July 2010: Disclaimer: I do not represent the FreeBSD project in any way, shape, or form. I am certain any such people would be much nicer and more polite about this than me. I'm sure I would be much nicer and more polite about it if I became a

Re: Automake installed

2010-07-24 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 24 July 2010 12:19, Jos Chrispijn ker...@webrz.net wrote: Just had a quick look in my installed ports and found out that I have multiple versions of automake installed: automake-1.10.1: ok automake-1.4.6_5: ok automake-1.5_5,1: ok automake-1.9.6_3: ok automake-wrapper-20071109: ok Is

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth David Brodbeck on Saturday, 24 July 2010: On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: It's a cartoon character. It's not an attempt to lure your children to join Satan's armies. There's no reason to be deterred from giving FreeBSD a try just because of a friendly cartoon

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Andres Perera
2010/7/24 Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org: FBSD's logo a cute cartoon character that can indeed be thought of representing a Daemon and I am sure that there was no bad (satanic) intention in the usage of the little red devil. It's just a funny little character, but again it would make me really

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Frank Shute on Saturday, 24 July 2010: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 09:21:48AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 24/07/2010 08:38:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: Victor Skovorodnikov said the following on 2010-07-24 04:01: Hi! This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why

Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2010-07-24 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 7/24/10, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 + Paul B Mahol one...@gmail.com articulated: Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization. I fixed this in my own git repo, but

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 06:01:07AM +0400, Victor Skovorodnikov wrote: Hi! This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a logo for BSD? What is the meaning of that logo? Do you really mean the logo kind of a round ball with points? Or do you mean the mascott - the

Re: 8.1 is available

2010-07-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 07:38:51PM +0800, Aiza wrote: Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. Funny, I received an official announcement

Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2010-07-24 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:45:24 + Paul B Mahol one...@gmail.com articulated: On 7/24/10, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 + Paul B Mahol one...@gmail.com articulated: Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because

TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-07-24 Thread Antonio Olivares
Dear folks, Sorry to ask about this since this has been beaten to death many times, but I *wonder* why FreeBSD does not have TeXLive as default tex installation? I look at a Linux project that is very similar to FreeBSD, Slackware and they at least explain why it is not included as default and

Re: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-07-24 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 07:51:55PM +, Antonio Olivares wrote: Dear folks, Sorry to ask about this since this has been beaten to death many times, but I *wonder* why FreeBSD does not have TeXLive as default tex installation? TeXLive has a _huge_ list of options, and its own

Re: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-07-24 Thread Antonio Olivares
Thank you Roland, I will download 8.1 Release and attempt it. Thanks your for your advice and for the howto :) Regards, Antonio On 7/24/10, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 07:51:55PM +, Antonio Olivares wrote: Dear folks, Sorry to ask about this since this

Re: popt-1.50 or better??

2010-07-24 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:21:12PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes: hey y'all, there is a program called libots [or ots] that acts to summarize text that i'd like to port to freebsd. i grabbed the src from scourceforge days ago and found that i need a

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 09:21:48AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 24/07/2010 08:38:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: Victor Skovorodnikov said the following on 2010-07-24 04:01: Hi! This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a logo for BSD? What is the meaning of that

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 01:45:47PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:05:14 -0700, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: I'm reminded of when some Christian groups called for a boycott of Apple because they had an OS project code-named Darwin. Some people will just go out of

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:46:34AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth David Brodbeck on Saturday, 24 July 2010: On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: It's a cartoon character. It's not an attempt to lure your children to join Satan's armies. There's no reason to be deterred

Re: popt-1.50 or better??

2010-07-24 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 24/07/2010 21:29:43, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:21:12PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes: hey y'all, there is a program called libots [or ots] that acts to summarize text that i'd like to port to freebsd. i grabbed the src from

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jul 24, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: I am not a religious man myself, but if the logo had any religious meaning to me I am sure I could better understand Victor's issues. Seems silly, but if it was the other way around I'm sure _many_ people here would probably concur in the

RE: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Graeme Dargie
snip To all who replied to this, I just have to say I have not laugh so hard in ages. Regards Graeme ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-07-24 Thread Frank Staals
On 07/24/10 22:29, Antonio Olivares wrote: Thank you Roland, I will download 8.1 Release and attempt it. Thanks your for your advice and for the howto :) Regards, Antonio Take a look at ports-mgmt/portshaker-config :) Portshaker is basically a tool which allows you to merge multiple

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 02:59:25PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: In ancient lore there was a bunch friendly characters who hung around out of sight and waited for a being - human being mostly - to need help. One of those creatures would slip in and somewhat mysteriously do little things to

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-24 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:05:14AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: I'm reminded that the SATAN network scanner project used to ship a utility with the source code that would patch it to rename it SANTA. I suppose someone could fork a new BSD distribution with an angel for a logo, to

Re: popt-1.50 or better??

2010-07-24 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:06:12PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 24/07/2010 21:29:43, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:21:12PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes: hey y'all, there is a program called libots [or ots] that acts to summarize

Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2010-07-24 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:45:24 + Paul B Mahol one...@gmail.com articulated: On 7/24/10, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 + Paul B Mahol one...@gmail.com articulated:

Re: popt-1.50 or better??

2010-07-24 Thread b. f.
here are the last few lines of output from configure, ots-0.5.0: checking for pkg-config... /usr/X11R6/bin/pkg-config checking for glib-2.0 = 2.0 libxml-2.0 = 2.4.23... yes checking OTS_CFLAGS... -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2

Re: 8.1 is available

2010-07-24 Thread b. f.
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 07:38:51PM +0800, Aiza wrote: Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. And if you were wondering why the release iso

Re: 8.1 is available

2010-07-24 Thread Fbsd8
b. f. wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 07:38:51PM +0800, Aiza wrote: Since the release team never makes a announcement on this list when a new RELEASE is published. I will let you all know that RELEASE 8.1 has been published and is available for download. And if you were wondering why the

Re: 8.1 is available

2010-07-24 Thread b. f.
On 7/24/10, Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: b. f. wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 07:38:51PM +0800, Aiza wrote: What I am wondering is why the release iso have been renamed. The path and file name was to long before and now with 8.1 some fool added the word Freebsd to it. What on earth

Re: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1

2010-07-24 Thread Anh Ky Huynh
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:51:55 + Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to ask about this since this has been beaten to death many times, but I *wonder* why FreeBSD does not have TeXLive as default tex installation? As TeXLive 2009 doesn't have binaries for FreeBSD ;) You can

searching INDEX in .sh

2010-07-24 Thread Aiza
I'm looking for a snippet of .sh type shell code that searches the /usr/ports/INDEX-8 file for dependents. Just a pointer to a script in the ports system that has this would be helpful. Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: popt-1.50 or better??

2010-07-24 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:06:12PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 24/07/2010 21:29:43, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:21:12PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes: hey y'all, there is a program called

What's the meaning of this warn?

2010-07-24 Thread Jason
HI,ALL: My freebsd server offer service to thousands of clients. I found lots of warning in the /var/log/message like this :Approaching the limit on PV entries, consider increasing either the vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the vm.pmap.pv_entry_max tunable My question is : 1.what is the meaning of PV?

Re: searching INDEX in .sh

2010-07-24 Thread b. f.
I'm looking for a snippet of .sh type shell code that searches the /usr/ports/INDEX-8 file for dependents. Just a pointer to a script in the ports system that has this would be helpful Do you mean that, given port A, you want to find all ports that need port A in order to be fetched, extracted,

Re: searching INDEX in .sh

2010-07-24 Thread b. f.
On 7/25/10, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: the parts of ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk that are used by running `make -C insert PKGORIGIN of port A here pretty-print-run-depends pretty-print-build-depends`. Sorry, it's actually 'pretty-print-build-depends-list' and 'pretty-print-run-depends-list'.

FreeBSD 8.1 AHCI Timeouts

2010-07-24 Thread Mak Kolybabi
I bought a netbook today, and am trying to get FreeBSD 8.1 amd64 installed on it. As is my custom, I'm trying to back up the default system image the device came with. But no matter what I do, FreeBSD seems unable to properly interact with the hard drive. The netbook is a Toshiba NB250. The

Re: searching INDEX in .sh

2010-07-24 Thread Aiza
b. f. wrote: I'm looking for a snippet of .sh type shell code that searches the /usr/ports/INDEX-8 file for dependents. Just a pointer to a script in the ports system that has this would be helpful Do you mean that, given port A, you want to find all ports that need port A in order to be