Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Peter Andreev
Why wouldn't you simply update your 8.1 to 8.4? 2013/7/27 Conny Andersson atar...@telia.com Hi, I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first disk, ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three year warranty of the workstation as Dell techs

Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: Hi, I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first disk, ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three year warranty of the workstation as Dell techs mostly speak the Microsoft

Re: Delete a directory, crash the system

2013-07-28 Thread Frank Leonhardt
On 28/07/2013 06:54, Polytropon wrote: And here, kids, you can see the strength of open source operating system: You can see _why_ something happens. :-) Too true! On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 20:35:09 +0100, Frank Leonhardt wrote: On 27/07/2013 19:57, David Noel wrote: So the system panics in

Re: Delete a directory, crash the system

2013-07-28 Thread David Noel
Ok folks, thanks again for all the help. Using the feedback I submitted a PR (#180894) -- http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=180894. I also submitted a follow-up to it with Frank's code and notes. What next? I don't really know what happens from here, but I'm guessing/hoping that someone's

Re: Delete a directory, crash the system

2013-07-28 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 28/07/2013 06:38, David Noel wrote: Ok folks, thanks again for all the help. Using the feedback I submitted a PR (#180894) -- http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=180894. I also submitted a follow-up to it with Frank's code and notes. What next? I don't really know what happens from

Re: Delete a directory, crash the system

2013-07-28 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Frank Leonhardt wrote: So it boils down to: a) Leave is is, as it can detect when the kernel has trashed its vnode table; or b) It's probably caused by expected FS corruption, so handle it gracefully. It would be good to log a system error message like filesystem may

Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: A very important question is if sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on disk 1? I'm not sure I'm following you

Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:18:39 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: A very important question is if sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and

Re: Delete a directory, crash the system

2013-07-28 Thread cpghost
On 07/27/13 21:12, cpghost wrote: A more robust file system would halt all processes, and perform an in-kernel fsck on the filesystem and its internal (in-memory) structures to repair the damage... and THEN resume the processes. However, this is a major project, and we don't have a

Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:18:39 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: A very important question is if sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager

Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 477, Issue 8, Message: 10 On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Conny Andersson atar...@telia.com wrote: Hi, I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first disk, ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the

Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Conny Andersson
Hi Ian, Thank you for all of your advices regarding my questions. I have been using FreeBSD for more than ten years, but I never heard of sade (sysadmins disk editor). That is one of the joyful things with running FreeBSD/Unix; there is always something earlier unheard of to explore. And,

Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Conny Andersson
Hi Peter, I need much more disk space for the FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE, so I will need the space of the two 'old' slices. Thanks, Conny On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Peter Andreev wrote: Why wouldn't you simply update your 8.1 to 8.4? 2013/7/27 Conny Andersson atar...@telia.com Hi, I have a

Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Conny Andersson
Hi Warren and Polytropon, A few minutes ago I booted up from a FreeBSD-8.4-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img to experience that it is sysinstall that is used in that release. Next, I did a 'dummy' custom installation. And, as I supposed sysinstall recognized disk ada0 as ad4 and disk ada1 as ad6.

Help! Cannot boot after freebsd-update update to 9.1-p5

2013-07-28 Thread Brett Glass
Help! I just used freebsd-update to upgrade a system to FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p5 to close the latest security holes. I then rebuilt my custom kernel and tried to reboot. I'm now getting the message Can't work out which disk we are booting from. Guessed BIOS device 0x not found by probes,

Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Conny Andersson wrote: Hi Warren and Polytropon, A few minutes ago I booted up from a FreeBSD-8.4-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img to experience that it is sysinstall that is used in that release. Next, I did a 'dummy' custom installation. And, as I supposed sysinstall

Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 28, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Conny Andersson wrote: Hi Ian, Thank you for all of your advices regarding my questions. I have been using FreeBSD for more than ten years, but I never heard of sade (sysadmins disk editor). That is one of the joyful things with running FreeBSD/Unix; there

Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:23:38 +, Teske, Devin wrote: In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death of sysinstall(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. % which sade /usr/sbin/sade System is FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE of August 2011. I think sade has been introduced in a v8 version of

Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Conny Andersson
Hi Devin, Apropos sade (sysadmins disk editor). I have it at /usr/sbin/sade and I am running a FreeBSD 8.3. I also mounted FreeBSD 8.1 and FreeBSD 8.2 and found sade at /usr/sbin/ even in these older FreeBSDs. Regards, Conny On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Teske, Devin wrote: In this case, sade is

Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager

2013-07-28 Thread Shane Ambler
On 29/07/2013 08:23, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:23:38 +, Teske, Devin wrote: In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death of sysinstall(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. % which sade /usr/sbin/sade System is FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE of August 2011. I think