sabotaged the authentication process this time.
Authentication of an entity and the decision whether to trust that entity
are two separate things, and should be treated as such.
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Quoth Anonymous C Professor: To work on a program
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 09:08:56PM -0800, Walt Pawley wrote:
At 12:31 PM -0700 1/6/09, Chad Perrin wrote:
On the other hand, I don't trust Verisign, either.
What's to trust? If you pay them, you in.
Exactly. That's why I -- as the guy sitting in front of the *browser* --
don't trust
, it works great -- I just hit
scroll lock twice, and it switches between a FreeBSD desktop tower and an
MS Windows desktop tower.
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Quoth Antony Jay: In corporate religions as in others, the heretic must
be cast out not because
system, then move
them from the MS Windows system to the FreeBSD system and import them to
Thunderbird there?
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Quoth Niccolo Machiavelli: It is a common failing of man not to take
account of tempests during fair weather
. . . if I'd known that, I might have considered voting for him.
Maybe.
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Quoth FreeBSD Secure Programming Guidelines: In fact, never ever use
gets() or sprintf(), period. If you do - we will send evil dwarfs after
you.
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name me Jewish lover, well, I'm Asian, that means I'm a chink. But
it's Mr. Chink to you, thank you very much.
Technically, chink is a slur for Chinese -- not Asian in general.
Just tryin' ta help.
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Quoth Sterling Camden: The Church
that
doesn't clutter up my workspace with a bunch of unnecessary cruft makes
it more difficult to use the mouse when it's appropriate and helpful to
do so.
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Quoth Larry Wall: Just don't create a file called -rf.
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of GNU userland as the
best of the Debian world. Of course, you seem to question that yourself
with that parenthesized question mark.
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Quoth Sean Reifschneider: If java had real garbage-collection, it would
delete most programs before
. If you were
starting Firefox from the shell, you probably just needed to enter
`rehash` to get it to recognize changes to what's in the execution path.
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Quoth Sean Reifschneider: If java had real garbage-collection, it would
delete
email arriving in your
inbox separately.
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Quoth Philip Machanick: caution: if you write code like this,
immediately after you are fired the person assigned to maintaining your
code after you leave will resign
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quoting techniques still cause me some anguish. :)
That's a pretty good idea.
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Quoth Scott McNealy: Microsoft is now talking about the digital nervous
system. I guess I would be nervous if my system was built on their
technology too
have something
valuable to contribute to the world of FreeBSD, with only a brief stop in
the land of Gentoo/BSD.
I guess time will tell.
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Quoth Paul Graham: Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but
having to build programs out
before. For example, I have seen
significantly better framerates for World of Warcraft using Wine than
using MS Windows XP, on the same machine.
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Power corrupts. The command line corrupts absolutely.
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 06:01:54PM +0200, Reko Turja wrote:
What I find ironic, is that the talent drifts either to fully
commercial projects, or those which are licensed under BSD - and in
many cases even both.
What's so ironic about that?
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is
split into two domains (core and ports) -- and thus have a place outside
the FreeBSD handbook for the same, more-than-professional quality of
documentation, but covering things we wouldn't be comfortable putting in
the FreeBSD Handbook itself.
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their foot off, however, then it's
fine with me, as long as they know what they are doing when they point
the cvs update gun backwards in time :)
Wait -- what? Keeping it out of the core isn't good enough . . . ?
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Quoth Larry Wall
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 08:18:16PM -0800, Charles Oppermann wrote:
http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/11/07/i-dont-wanna-grow-up-im-a-big-kid-now/
I think it might for a great official stool for FreeBSD as soon as the
designer's site is usable without Flash.
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.
That's because /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins and
/usr/local/browser_plugins aren't in your home directory.
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Quoth Larry Wall: Perl is, in intent, a cleaned up and summarized
version of that wonderful semi-natural language known as 'Unix
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 04:09:51PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:50:41 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
[snip]
I can see both sides of this argument. Maybe we need to split up
FreeBSD documentation into two domains, similarly to the way FreeBSD
software is split
writing by pushing myself to use it for personal notes.
Maybe we can wikify some of the stuff that is not really Handbook-material?
I can definitely try doing that :)
I'd definitely support such an effort.
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Quoth Anonymous C
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 02:28:51AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:52:00 -0700, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
Wait -- what? Keeping it out of the core isn't good enough . . . ?
I'm sorry Chad. I lost you there. What 'core' are we talking about?
I'm
/index.php?showtopic=129263
It's disappointing that I haven't seen any responses to this. I'm
curious about the existence of such tools as well. Have you gotten any
answers off-list that you can share with those of us on the list who
might also like to know?
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On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 04:03:15PM +0530, Mehul Ved wrote:
Compile it on P1 90MHz? :( I can't install FreeBSD on any other PC.
I can totally understand not wanting to compile software on a 90MHz
Pentium 1.
Why can't you install FreeBSD on any other PC?
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:47:41AM -0900, Mel wrote:
On Monday 23 February 2009 10:56:20 Chad Perrin wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 08:18:16PM -0800, Charles Oppermann wrote:
http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/11/07/i-dont-wanna-grow-up-im-a-big-kid-n
ow/
I think it might for a great
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 04:28:20PM -0900, Mel wrote:
Ah that site. It wouldn't, my apologies.
Oh -- you thought I was talking about the first site. Sorry, I guess I
wasn't as clear about what I meant.
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Quoth Colleen
for an alternative?
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Quoth Larry Wall: It's more important to be a good driver than to have
seven feet of sponge rubber all around your car.
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with
the BSD license that requirement does not exist.
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Quoth The Financial Times: As an ultimate incentive to solve the
millennium bug computer problem, China has ordered its airline
executives to take a flight on January 1
http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=622
+ Choose the right licensing model for security software
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=610
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it
sleeps and wakes reliably when I remember to do stuff in the right order,
my uptime isn't limited by staying in one place. The uptime isn't very
impressive right now, though, since I shut it down during a three day
drive across the country a few days ago.
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an SSH client on the host OS
to talk to the guest OS, and copy from the SSH client to wherever else
you need the data in your host OS.
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On FreeBSD 7.2, I see it at:
/usr/share/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook
If you are on a different FreeBSD release version, I suppose your mileage
may vary.
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have overlooked the part where Carmel mentioned writing
regexen for use with sieve+Dovecot and possibly with Postfix. I get the
impression from that and later comments in the thread that Carmel is
particularly focused on sieve's regex syntax, which may use libc's regex
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:11:32PM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote:
preface each line:
:%s/^/new word /g
The trailing g isn't needed because you only need one substitution on
each line. Thus:
:%s/^/new word /
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anyone to make some kind of grave error involving the
assumption that WinME used NTFS. . . .
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understand is FreeBSD is Not Linux
How sure are we that davidoweir3 wasn't just asking about how to use SSH
to connect to a Linux machine from a FreeBSD machine?
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compiling something and checking/installing
dependencies and so on
Middling:
check for conflicts late
Worst:
don't check for conflicts at all
Yeah, sounds about right.
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are still being explored, and the Pidgin people are apparently trying to
get AOL to clarify its best practices recommendation for how to handle
logins, but in the meantime this work-around might help solve the problem
you're having with logins.
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:49:16AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 04:26:07PM +0800, wsk wrote:
hi,
upgrade all software after upgrade to 8.0. and now found that
pidgin login qq failed. any ideas?
If you're talking about AIM or ICQ, it seems
itself, without your knowledge?
What *is* your MUA, anyway?
Good luck.
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those certs you saw in GPA, then reinstalled, and didn't realize the
plugin for your MUA went away with the uninstall? I'm just guessing.
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to make it *safely* delete directories. You will have to delete any
empty directories yourself if you use this script as written.
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On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 03:13:51AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
losers= Dir[#{Dir.getwd}/**/*]
keepers = IO.readlines ARGV.shift
startpath = ARGV.shift
if startpath
Dir.chdir startpath
end
Oops. Speaking of using at your own risk . . .
That line that reads
` good?
I've already used `portupgrade polkit` here, and I haven't seen any
problems yet, but then I haven't restarted anything that relies on polkit
for a while either.
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in that regard. Something I said may turn out to be mistaken.
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On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 10:24:41PM +0200, Eitan Adler wrote:
It happens to be a Lenovo laptop. If I could get a copy of the
specification it would make a nice project for me - writing a driver -
*wonders*
Which Lenovo laptop model is it?
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accept the GPL2)
They don't like the license, that's not stubbornness.
Wow thats a good reason to use ancient compilers and assemblers.
Sometimes, license choice *is* a good reason to make some sacrifices in
short-term convenience.
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On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:00:00PM +, Frank Shute wrote:
AFAIK, the system compiler is going to be clang in the future and for
ports you'll install a compiler from ports.
Can you provide a URL for some discussion of this? I hadn't heard that
FreeBSD was moving to Clang.
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What's the simplest/easiest way to use secure memory (i.e., memory that
won't be written to a swap partition) from within a program (written in
Ruby in this case) on FreeBSD?
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options carefully.
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, or a package deal with something else, or perhaps free
support above and beyond what's available from the FreeBSD project
itself, and so on).
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:10:33AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On 28/02/2010 01:56:27, Chad Perrin wrote:
Actually, once your project becomes a commercial enterprise, the GPL
stops allowing reference to upstream sources to suit the requirements of
code redistribution. If you sell GPLed
distribution projects have been threatened
with lawsuits for referring to upstream sources, even while the sources
were still there, because those projects were identified by the people
making such threats as commercial enterprises. Probably the highest
profile instance was MEPIS.
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The amd64 arch installer for 8.0-RELEASE fails to start on a ThinkPad T60
with an Intel Centrino Core Duo. What am I doing wrong?
error message:
CPU doesn't support long mode
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On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 06:30:48PM -0600, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 3/5/2010 6:28 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
The amd64 arch installer for 8.0-RELEASE fails to start on a ThinkPad T60
with an Intel Centrino Core Duo. What am I doing wrong?
error message:
CPU doesn't support long mode
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:19:31PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote:
What system board revision does you're Thinkpad have?
You can use CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) to check on this.
That looks like a handy tool. Is there a version that will run on
FreeBSD?
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in the CPAN.
My favorite is Getopt::Long.
For simple scripts I tend to use Getopt::Std instead, but Getopt::Long is
great too. These two are pretty much the standard for command line
option handling and help message generation in Perl.
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so far off-topic for this list, I'll return you to
your regularly scheduled programming.
But if you look at http://learn.perl.org/ you'll see a number of other
resources, including free tutorials online.
print Just another Perl hacker,; # the original
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if to be clearer than unless when there's an else, so
instead of making that if into an unless, I'd just swap the
conditional actions.
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On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 02:33:02PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
anybody know if we need a new C [[maybe D]] that would be
allowed to grow?
There's already a D. I don't really know much about it, though.
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the interpreter plenty of time to notice there's
an unless immediately following it
Obviously, the real answer in the case of Ruby and Perl falls somewhere
around 1.5, but 3 is still a believable-sounding excuse, and perfectly
acceptable to me.
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;)
Steve
I'm willing to let the emacs users have their emacs, and to enjoy my vi.
I guess the longer name (emacs) suits people who like pressing more
buttons to accomplish the same amount of work anyway.
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On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 01:20:49PM +0100, RW wrote:
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0100, RW wrote:
IMO this is a bad mistake that other languages were quite right not
to copy - a test shouldn't come after
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 01:09:54PM +0100, RW wrote:
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0600
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 01:20:49PM +0100, RW wrote:
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05
had my morning
jolt of java yet
I suspect there are quite a few examples of BSD-specific C functions *in*
the FreeBSD kernel. I'm pretty sure this isn't what you meant, though,
so please clarify.
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-toolkits/linux-pango (linux-pango-1.10.2_3)
(unknown build error)
A Google search for information from the above hasn't proven fruitful.
Any ideas how I could narrow down the exact problem and work out a
solution would be appreciated.
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as
well and that's why it didn't want to install.
I'm pretty severely disappointed in the state of linux-pango security on
FreeBSD right about now.
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and a DVCS are both candidates for best option in your
case.
Note: I use Subversion and Mercurial as my examples because those are the
two I generally use and like the most.
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simple to use, too.
If all the bells and whistles you suggested are desired, though, it does
get to be a bit more to manage.
For access from Windows, try TortoiseSVN.
Luckily, TortoiseSVN is pretty easy to set up and use on MS Windows.
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you have available to you. I suspect, from
what little information has been offered so far, that Subversion will
probably be the most suitable tool -- but there's a certain amount of
guesswork in that, and only the person who needs to select the tool can
be sure what best suits his needs.
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delete something not just from
the current working version, but from the whole repo. I won't repeat
them here.
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rather
than the whole list, this problem will exist -- because if people on the
list can get your email address, they can also make those email addresses
public (or abuse them, if they happen to be the types of people who join
mailing lists just to harvest email addresses).
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them
afterward. The /usr/ports/UPDATING file gives the guidance we need to
ensure that things get handled right the first time.
In fact, I basically never use portupgrade -a, because I want to make
sure I don't overlook something.
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performance out of your computer or your network. Even if your computer
is drawing a whole lot of power, you might be better off replacing your
television and DVR unit with a computer than replacing the computer with
another computer that draws less power.
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enclosure is usually an entertainment
center). I was speaking of the most value per purchase in terms of
power consumption, not dollars spent. How much you're actually spending
is for you to sort out.
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On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 09:28:45AM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
It's called Vimium, and Chad Perrin figured out how to get it working on
FreeBSD. But Vimium isn't Vimperator, and chromium disables extensions
when viewing the home page or local files. So, for instance, vimium's
key bindings
hardware is supported, it is my experience that
FreeBSD makes the best workstation of any OS I've used. More hardware
support for workstation-type use, then, is a good thing.
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infected before they had me
automate the virus-cleaning process for them.
The short version is simply that I've seen how shady refurbishers work,
up close and personal. Let the buyer beware.
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Konstantin's work fixes the problem with the Intel drivers.
Be careful about the hardware in your laptop, whatever brand you get, so
you'll be sure to get the best FreeBSD user experience reasonably
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On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:08:09PM -0500, Robert Huff wrote:
Chad Perrin writes:
In my experience, ThinkPads are among the highest quality laptops
on the market.
At one point, Thinkpads - particularly the T4x series - were
_the_ recommended used laptop. While it's been
to fix it short of
replacing the physical speakers.
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build?
Actually, the more pager should scroll one page at a time, determining a
page by the size of the console in which it is displayed, if I remember
correctly. Just `more filename` and start hitting the spacebar.
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on compositing (which
requires an appropriate graphics card) and install a GTK theme suitable
to the kind of look you want.
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that way; it's bad for
you, with lots of fatty calories, preservatives, artificial sweeteners,
and other stuff your body should not be ingesting on a regular basis.
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On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:07:54AM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
It turns out auto-completion with hinting and command history
searching are pretty addictive if you're used to having them. :)
I have auto-completion, and I
often use tcsh as an interactive shell, but I do not use it for shell
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 09:59:40PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Chad Perrin perrin at apotheon.com writes:
That’s a FreeBSD® specific issue though. Other operating systems
did the sensible thing ages ago ☺
What exactly is the sensible thing?
http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:34:25PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Chad Perrin perrin at apotheon.com writes:
1. You think some measure of popularity of a decision makes it correct.
No.
Why do you substitute others' email messages for an actual, direct
response to my question, then?
2
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 02:39:24PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 24 February 2011:
What we have not yet determined is:
1. Is it a good idea to replace (t)csh?
Though I dislike the OP's dismissal of backticks, I must admit that I
would prefer
. But it's also worth
mentioning that there are even better shells which combine the best of
both worlds, like zsh, a shell that many professionals seem to prefer
over the other ones mentioned.
I see from this you are not prone to confuse programming with an
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 06:42:18PM -0430, Andres Perera wrote:
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
1. Is it a good idea to replace (t)csh?
mksh is better than tcsh for everything
Thank you for your opinion, but it's just an opinion with no explanation
, $hit, it doesn't even need to be installed;
it just magically works.
There you have it.
What is this -- a bad joke?
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concrete
(t)csh problem I've identified, mksh has similar problems, but it's
better because I like it.
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% secure. It doesn't
use any memory or other resources, $hit, it doesn't even need to be
installed; it just magically works.
There you have it.
That one doesn't seem to be in ports.
In case you aren't just being sarcastic, I think pfmsh is a reference
to pure fucking magic shell.
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 07:12:55PM -0430, Andres Perera wrote:
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
So far, your complaints translate to Well, sure, for every concrete
(t)csh problem I've identified, mksh has similar problems, but it's
better because I
license. It's a copyfree license; I
have no objects to using it on those grounds, personally.)
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:09:21PM -0430, Andres Perera wrote:
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 07:12:55PM -0430, Andres Perera wrote:
the author of vi, who is also the author of csh regards it as poor code
Good for him
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:14:55PM -0430, Andres Perera wrote:
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
I'll try to help make it easy for you, since you seem to be having a
lot of trouble grasping the concept of actually trying to make a
point via logical argument
, either.
thanks
I wonder if Sterling Camden will offer a you're welcome to your hostile
reception.
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