Re: Backtick versus $()

2011-02-24 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 09:15:30PM -0430, Andres Perera wrote: it doesn't matter if it wasn't you if you're all retarded then you are all effectively the same person I see. Suggesting that slinging insults makes him retarded. You are naught but a troll. Killfiled. -- Chad Perrin

Re: Backtick versus $()

2011-02-24 Thread Chad Perrin
. You're welcome, Andres! Now go sleep it off. That's awfully accommodating of you. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpeY7YX1aWjc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Backtick versus $()

2011-02-24 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 07:12:23PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 09:15:30PM -0430, Andres Perera wrote: it doesn't matter if it wasn't you if you're all retarded then you are all effectively the same person I see. Suggesting that slinging insults makes him

Re: xdm-options - non-bsd user needs bsd rc.d advice

2011-03-03 Thread Chad Perrin
the system's behavior (or, y'know, actually troubleshoot it at all). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp9MT6EerY3q.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: xdm-options - non-bsd user needs bsd rc.d advice

2011-03-04 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 03:28:10PM +0100, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: Later, I tried OpenSolaris and FreeBSD and am now using FreeBSD due to the same reasons as Chad Perrin stated: Being a power-user, wanting to control things and (now diverting from Chad's reasons) wanting to use technology

Re: mysql missing from my home-page WordPress....

2011-03-04 Thread Chad Perrin
breaking patches made from earlier versions) without substantively changing the way things work or the readability of the code. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpstENE4ZRWH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Purchased Binaries

2011-03-04 Thread Chad Perrin
to make this stuff run. Linux binaries . . . ? That's unlikely to work on FreeBSD without the Linux compatibility layer. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp3SoqmkGlvG.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: FreeBSD kernel init slower than linux

2011-03-05 Thread Chad Perrin
) such that these comparisons end up sounding more dramatic and exciting. (We now return you to your regularly scheduled anecdotal benchmarking discussion.) -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp8B0LEBpp7b.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-07 Thread Chad Perrin
know you can configure YouTube to use HTML5 instead of Flash now? Adobe is in danger of becoming irrelevant. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpkg2FElnPid.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 09:17:23AM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: On Mon 07 Mar 2011 at 09:00:14 PST Chad Perrin wrote: Did you know you can configure YouTube to use HTML5 instead of Flash now? Adobe is in danger of becoming irrelevant. Meh. I never watch videos on the website anyway

Re: Apple FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Chad Perrin
-mentioned essay *Code Reuse and Technological Advancement*, I make a point of focusing my efforts on copyfree licensed software such as the (majority of) the FreeBSD project. Your mileage may vary. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpzzi3sLHFKc.pgp

terminal emulators with secure keyboard capability

2011-03-11 Thread Chad Perrin
know of any such terminal emulators, aside from XTerm, that do something like this? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpgOnCBREKKX.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Character shortcuts

2011-03-12 Thread Chad Perrin
to generate the characters to use for cutting + pasting to no avial. I wrote this about setting up a Compose key a while back: entering special characters in Xorg http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=814 -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-15 Thread Chad Perrin
, except in rare cases. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpnSHg4JVwGH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-16 Thread Chad Perrin
, especially when there is no singly market-dominating corporation leading the charge for adoption. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpnjN5NgQ0cT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-16 Thread Chad Perrin
of irrationality. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpEhiSQGDh8C.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-16 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:12:09AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: The largest possible paying audience is generally everybody capable of using an open standard. Since we're talking about video, though, it's worth noting

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-17 Thread Chad Perrin
that something needs to be fixed. This is, in short, bad software design. I blame Microsoft, GNU, and Canonical for this trend, mostly. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp6B2gtKwqVV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-17 Thread Chad Perrin
dominant. 2. Kill an up-and-coming competitor. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpiYDJfcTJ2B.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 05:35:57PM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:48:52 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com articulated: I blame Microsoft, GNU, and Canonical for this trend, mostly. Chad, I believe I stand on firm ground when I state that you would blame Microsoft

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 07:48:58PM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:36:37 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com articulated: No, not really. It's more the fault of the hardware manufacturer. Chad, up until this point I had taken your response seriously. In fact, I thought

Re: How to tell whether CPU supports x64?

2011-03-17 Thread Chad Perrin
-64 (Itanium), IBM POWER, and SPARC 64 bit processors use the same Long Mode functionality? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp7cWm0uOJwT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-17 Thread Chad Perrin
supported (which they probably have on at least Windows, if not Linux as well) is just blaming him for not being able to read your mind about hardware you have in hand. Thanks. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpjsth1GU282.pgp Description: PGP

Re: How to tell whether CPU supports x64?

2011-03-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 07:54:13PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: . . . or maybe it is a 64 bit CPU that is not x86_64/amd64 compatible. Do IA-64 (Itanium), IBM POWER, and SPARC 64 bit processors use the same Long Mode

Re: [solved] How to tell whether CPU supports x64?

2011-03-18 Thread Chad Perrin
a reference to LM, but the second system (whose output you quoted) *does*. . . . which to me suggests that the processor is 64 bit, but the original system for some reason does not recognize that fact. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgprUW6rcxFHP.pgp

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-18 Thread Chad Perrin
who are making yourself look like a fool by trying to assign motivations and rationalizations to others that are patently (pun intended) ridiculous. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpBmtiAQh7c8.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-18 Thread Chad Perrin
application to *force* them to specify *all four* configuration settings, even when three of them are default? Are you further saying you're doing this because you think it's a good idea from a UI standpoint, and not just out of laziness? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-30 Thread Chad Perrin
it would be more accurate to say the car would crash. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpGQUXGi6Omc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-30 Thread Chad Perrin
. It's a trade-off, like anything else in life, I suppose. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpsHJRx4G2tv.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-30 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:45:23AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Chad Perrin on Wednesday, 30 March 2011: We were speaking in analogies here, where the car *is* the operating system -- so I think if it said 1/0 it would be more accurate to say the car would crash. It's uncertain

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-30 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:57:45AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:41:54 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:45:23AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: It's uncertain whether the car would crash, or run infinitely. Mathematically

Re: SSH persistent sessions without screen?

2011-03-31 Thread Chad Perrin
but, in the words of the manpage, it allows you to run a command immune to hangups, with output to a non-tty. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpqFYnnxccRE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Port dependencies

2011-04-03 Thread Chad Perrin
with Synaptic doesn't require you to track all the (recursive) dependencies yourself, but uninstalling Evolution can break the whole system because of the insanely inclusive dependency policies for packages. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpfSWO25iwLE.pgp

Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-03 Thread Chad Perrin
- face. In my opinion, this is way better than the POP/no-SMTP thing I'm currently doing. Why Roundcube? From what I've seen, it doesn't handle quote indentation and marking properly. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpMvXYQnFj3L.pgp Description: PGP

Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 01:37:50AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 03:43:59AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: For example, you could install an IMAP interface for mail stored on the server, so you can

Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:33:53AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:15:48 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I've seen Roundcube do this crap. It does *not* make me happy when trying to skim through emails quickly -- and it can be bad when reading more closely

Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-04 Thread Chad Perrin
I'm not very well versed in the nuances of Webmail software. I just know that receiving emails formatted by code that was apparently written by prairie dogs (judging by how it screws up the formatting) is suboptimal. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Chad Perrin
*not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox. I have yet to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the list. I consider not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to the list a good reason to do otherwise. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed

Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 08:30:25PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: On 8 Apr 2011 20:25, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often. I really do *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox. I have yet to see anyone complain

Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 12:34:24PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: +1 (I replied, cluttering up inboxes all over freebsdland) You didn't CC me directly, though, for which I'm grateful. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpnTlZSkroSX.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 11:15:11PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 01:11:52PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote: section 8.6 starts: start quote Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise

Re: For My Edification

2011-05-02 Thread Chad Perrin
Unix book as well -- because it, too, is just that good. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpKVSdLAnx94.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: For My Edification

2011-05-03 Thread Chad Perrin
of a glue code development tool for .NET developers than a proper command shell. You can abuse it as a command shell if you want to, but in my experience the REPL for the R6RS (Scheme) implementation called Ypsilon serves as a better command shell than PowerShell. -- Chad Perrin [ original content

Re: Comparing two lists

2011-05-07 Thread Chad Perrin
the definition of one-liner if I'm using semicolons and escaping newlines. If you really want to cram it all into one line of code, you could do something like replace the semicolons (and newline escapes) with the and keyword in each case. http://pastebin.com/nPR42760 -- Chad Perrin [ original

Re: FreeBSD logon screen

2011-05-07 Thread Chad Perrin
/usr/ports/x11/slock DESC:: Simple screen locker utility for X WWW: http://tools.suckless.org/slock -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpkG386Tugkg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: FreeBSD logon screen

2011-05-07 Thread Chad Perrin
Your Screen While Away From The Computer http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=4504 I hope that helps. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpcByVmNU0R9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: FreeBSD logon screen

2011-05-07 Thread Chad Perrin
it's intended to do. It blanks out the screen, and you have to enter your password to unlock the screen. It's a very simple screen locking program for X -- no more, and no less. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpx2f4kQwWdE.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Chad Perrin
for writing code, but I also use it for writing in English -- professional work on articles, development of traditional (non-computer) RPG systems, fiction, configuration files, notes to myself, and composing emails (including this one). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Chad Perrin
. --The Unix's Bride http://www.nancybuttons.com/catalog.cgi?o_custom=o_selected=1469:1action=browseaction_mod=showcat=cro That joke is hilarious. Pedantically speaking, though, it has a small problem: vi is pronounced like vee eye, not like the word vie. -- Chad Perrin [ original

Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Chad Perrin
; where the GIMP often takes an interminably long time to do simple things (like open an image), Cinepaint is pretty snappy by comparison. The interface is occasionally a bit glitchy, though. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpB61va1wts8.pgp Description: PGP

Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit

2011-05-17 Thread Chad Perrin
would consider an ideal task for a spreadsheet, I tend to just start practicing my complex data structure skills in Ruby. I guess I'm weird, but I loathe spreadsheets in general. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpBTfKXmAdCy.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Long Day's Journey into Bleep

2011-06-08 Thread Chad Perrin
?! It is solid-state. Yes, the box is within my feet/foot reach. I have accidently kicked it i suppose, but still. I think I've just had ports die one by one on a switch until it no longer worked. I don't think I've ever had the whole thing go poof for no evident reason. -- Chad Perrin

Re: Long Day's Journey into Bleep

2011-06-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 10:21:13PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 12:18:52AM -0400, Jon Radel wrote: On 6/8/11 11:53 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: I think I've just had ports die one by one on a switch until it no longer worked. I don't think I've ever had the whole thing go

Re: Long Day's Journey into Bleep

2011-06-09 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 11:33:04AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 11:34:30PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: . . . but Cisco switches are overpriced crap. We were disconnecting the Netgear to replace it with a Cisco that offered a lot more functionality, and administration

Re: Long Day's Journey into Bleep

2011-06-09 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 10:05:19AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Chad Perrin on Wednesday, 08 June 2011: I think I've just had ports die one by one on a switch until it no longer worked. I don't think I've ever had the whole thing go poof for no evident reason. I have, twice. Both

Re: Long Day's Journey into Bleep

2011-06-09 Thread Chad Perrin
firewalls and routers is a relatively trivial exercise. Switches are another matter entirely. . . . -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpWvDO3L1aNE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Long Day's Journey into Bleep

2011-06-09 Thread Chad Perrin
is available in FreeBSD articles outside of the Handbook is not a skill I have developed, yet; I did not know this article existed. I'll give it a look. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpYCMNgEmtmt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Long Day's Journey into Bleep

2011-06-10 Thread Chad Perrin
the turn of the century that still works great), after all. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpccg5FzmqT6.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
the Open Group's certification standards and (more importantly) have some certification fee paid, as I understand it. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpzHDlCJHbDX.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
-- regardless of what we said about it. The difference is that trademarks are used to identify some entity and its creations, while copyrights are used to censor the redistribution of creations themselves. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpypo8icowY9.pgp

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
minor roads on them that don't exist. It makes them copyrightable.) This tactic has been used by dictionary publishers as well. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpNBp89puxR8.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
depend on other laws not prohibiting them. Organizations such as Microsoft, however, certainly do work hard to get the courts to accord the same enforceability as contracts to EULAs, but that does not mean they *are* contracts. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
it in, you are creating a crop of victims for spam email list spiders to reap. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 05:38:42AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:03:16 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 02:50:40AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: Copyright and ownership of creation just

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 06:14:03AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:35:54 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: I've noticed that your mail user agent is including quoted parties' email addresses in the quote notification. In the text immediately following this brief paragraph

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-17 Thread Chad Perrin
to database protection according to the Swedish # Copyright Act. Holy crap. That's awful. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpRfgEDeXQEd.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-17 Thread Chad Perrin
is the reason for things like the CC0 waiver, however. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpFK5VBXJ2eR.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:57:20AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Jun 17, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: Where i live no need to register, you get copyright if the stuff fulfills certain criteria, originality is one. Registration aids enforcement. Of course, there's always the poor

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:48:25AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: The poor man's copyright approach is, I believe, less certain and effective than registration, but if there is a dispute over proper claim of copyright, anything you can do

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 05:02:09PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: OK, time for somebody who really knows about this stuff to wade in. [snip] Thanks for much more clearly stating, in much greater detail, exactly what I was trying to say -- and for adding a bunch of additional detail. -- Chad

Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?

2011-06-19 Thread Chad Perrin
, technical quality rarely matters when it comes time for the politicians and bureaucrats to make a decision. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpdEs76w3EvC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-19 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 02:25:52AM +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2011-06-17 18:28, Chad Perrin skrev: The fact this is not applicable everywhere is the reason for things like the CC0 waiver, however. What is CC0? http://creativecommons.org/choose/zero/ -- Chad Perrin [ original content

Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?

2011-06-20 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 01:36:17PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:30:46 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: It's not prejudice. That assumes I prejudge. My judgment is based on years of fighting with the BS features of office suites of all descriptions for years, and loathing

Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?

2011-06-20 Thread Chad Perrin
This email actually mentions Skype and SIP phones toward the end. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 06:29:03PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:46:24 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: I still managed to do everything I needed to do in under twenty minutes, but if the data had been left

Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?

2011-06-20 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 07:44:04PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:04:28 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: This means that even LaTeX is usually the wrong choice. LaTeX is for typesetting text (articles, books, technical documents, maybe even letters) - nothing more, nothing less

Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?

2011-06-22 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:08:59PM -0500, David Scheidt wrote: On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: . . . and, somehow, social convention tells me it would be rude to let this person know (for next time) that everything will be much easier for everyone if the data is just

Re: Is there a

2011-07-04 Thread Chad Perrin
the BSD sites, don't see any vendor specific drivers. I find what you say you're doing interesting, even if I'm not entirely clear on what it is in all its particulars. Would you please clarify the aim of your efforts? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: boting straight into firefox

2011-07-14 Thread Chad Perrin
one workspace and the browser executed in your .xinitrc file would do the trick. I seem to recall there is a way to turn off access to TTY consoles, too. I wonder, though . . . why Firefox? Would a more minimal (but still GUI) browser -- such as Surf, perhaps -- serve your needs better? -- Chad

Re: boting straight into firefox

2011-07-15 Thread Chad Perrin
file, so getting rid of navigational bars should be possible too. Firefox has preferences that can be set to eliminate any unwanted toolbars, though I do not know off the top of my head of a means of making it impossible for a user to change the preferences back. -- Chad Perrin [ original content

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Chad Perrin
that Linux-based systems are abandoning like rats fleeing a sinking ship. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpeWDDuk3S8s.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Chad Perrin
that makes the computer behave in a(n unproductively) non-deterministic manner should stay in the Ubuntu and MS Windows ghettos where it belongs. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp0xe8KxaChB.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-20 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 08:55:29AM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:21:31 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: This is where we find a dividing line between users who want different things. Yes, you turn on your Win7 laptop (or wake it up) in a coffee shop, and it connects

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-20 Thread Chad Perrin
. I just wanted to point out a little-recognized detail of the benefit of BSD Unix systems over GPLed systems, once you (sorta inadvertently) brought up one of the effects of that difference. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpEN2KjrKINz.pgp Description

Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?

2011-07-21 Thread Chad Perrin
place.) -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpaDiu003R8G.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?

2011-07-21 Thread Chad Perrin
. As I said, I'm not a kernel hacker. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpMoc83iHAR2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Chad Perrin
it was 8.2, but I didn't keep careful notes that I can check now. It failed to work. I think I got a doesn't support long mode error, but again I am not 100% certain due to the passage of time and the fact I have not really thought about it in the interim. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL

Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?

2011-07-21 Thread Chad Perrin
, and internal power will make up for the simple fact it's just a damned toy. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpYy2RZart7H.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?

2011-07-21 Thread Chad Perrin
, essentially) would be a good start. I'd take NetBSD or OpenBSD, too. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpvttIGH4ECR.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?

2011-07-21 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 02:06:04PM -0400, Daniel Staal wrote: On Thu, July 21, 2011 1:11 pm, Chad Perrin wrote: If all they want is a toy with a Web browser and an email client, I guess that works for them. I don't know if they really count for purposes of discussing the possible

Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?

2011-07-21 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 07:18:21PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: On 21/07/2011 18:00, Chad Perrin wrote: I suspect those drivers are the drivers that have *survived*. I saw hardware suddenly stop working because of driver issues just between SP1 and SP2 of XP -- including, in one case, the hard

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-22 Thread Chad Perrin
some asinine automated network selection line of crap like NetworkManager makes its way into the FreeBSD base system is probably the day I stop using it. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp01bdbgBl5e.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?

2011-07-22 Thread Chad Perrin
of Stockholm Syndrome. When someone fires up MS Office or OpenOffice.org just to write the equivalent of a post-it note, there is something horribly, desperately wrong with the way people use software. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpQ2wNBy6NVv.pgp

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:05:40AM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:58:26 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: In fact, the NetworkManager set of network management tools has in some ways outdone the stupidities of MS Windows network management. Hey, this is stupid, but it's

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:25:10PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: On 23/07/2011 22:58, Chad Perrin wrote: Do you realize that MS Windows has nothing equivalent to rc.conf or /etc/network/interfaces? It does: it's in the registry. HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces

Re: Android (Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?)

2011-07-24 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 09:48:46AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Sunday, July 24, 2011 a las 06:41:57AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com escribió: Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: If Android actually exposed more of the Linux underpinnings it might be somewhat useful to me

Re: Android (Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?)

2011-07-24 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 06:41:57AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: If Android actually exposed more of the Linux underpinnings it might be somewhat useful to me ... There _is_ a development kit. I have no idea what-all is involved in setting

Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?

2011-07-25 Thread Chad Perrin
and servers these days. Some of them are both. None of them are desktops, in that they do not sit at or on a desk with external monitor, keyboard, and pointing device attached, ready to be used as workstations. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: Android (Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?)

2011-07-25 Thread Chad Perrin
basic tools to which even non-root users are accustomed to having access. Consider cat, for instance. So the problem is not a missing app, it is more of the usual vendor lock stuff. There's that -- but there's also a lot of missing applications. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL

Re: Android (Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?)

2011-07-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 07:30:08PM +0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: Op 25-7-2011 18:59 schreef Chad Perrin: So the problem is not a missing app, it is more of the usual vendor lock stuff. There's that -- but there's also a lot of missing applications. HTC is removing the root lock protection

Re: Book recommendations (slightly OT)

2011-07-27 Thread Chad Perrin
language such as Perl or Ruby instead of an interactive shell syntax. More sophisticated shells are fine for interactive use, but should not be relied upon for shell scripting in the vast majority of cases for reasons of portability and consistency. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL

Re: diagrammatic representation of the directory tree?

2011-07-30 Thread Chad Perrin
-directories What about tree? /usr/ports/sysutils/tree -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpZj8QIEnQLj.pgp Description: PGP signature

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