of terminology, the more they are emboldened; I think
it was the RIAA representative at the SOPA hearing yesterday who
literally equated copyright infringement with *murder*.
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On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:56:06PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:17:50 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
Copyright infringement is copyright infringement -- and not theft --
no matter how hyperbolic your choice of phrasing. Castigate people
for the unlawful act of copyright
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:41:51PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
Oh, of course -- pirated, like the hundreds of CDs and audiocasettes
and DVDs I have, though I've stopped consuming new music in any form from
corporations that sue their own customers.
clarification: Those are hundreds of CDs
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 05:32:00AM -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote:
On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:05:05 -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote:
So, wait, Firefox is Malware? Did you notice that with FF4
they changed it so that you didn't get prompted on launch
it
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 09:23:22AM +1030, William Brown wrote:
On 22/12/2011, at 20:06, Matthew Seaman wrote:
svn vs git vs mercurial
svn has the model of a central repository that everything has to
communicate with. This can be attractive in a commercial environment as
it implies
reading the article, so that it will make more
sense as presented on that page. For all I know, the way TR's
stylesheets handle code formatting might all change again tomorrow, and
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source software in general,
which makes me wonder why you hang around this mailing list.
If I hated something that much, I would avoid it.
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On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 11:55:26PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and others
(even in the linux community) over the past
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 08:31:14AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated:
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 03:06:11AM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. In its
zeal to make things just work in a particular manner, it seems
hell-bent on ignoring
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On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012:
So . . . please start with the denotative meanings of words, consider
your audience, and use words accordingly. If you wish to use a term
differently than how it is understood
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:33:28PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:55:04PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012:
So . . . please start
not imply Robert Bonomi
*wrote* it; rather, it would imply that he *agrees* with its moral
justification.
If I had to guess, of course, I would think he believes it is morally
justified, but that's a wild-ass speculation, and not enough to induce me
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removing the battery, of course) is turn them over to remove screws.
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listing a bunch of browsers - I like all of
these less than any of the browsers I mentioned before this paragraph,
for a variety of reasons.
I hope that helps, in conjunction with the advice others provide.
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to have any meaningful
discussion with you right now. As pointed out by a bystander, this
off-topicness has gone on long enough, and my most friendly overtures
have been met only with flames in any case.
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On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:34:52PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:00:12 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated:
You just ignored the salient point of what Robert Bonomi said, in
favor of trivialities. If you prefer, pretend he said:
HE asked that they explain why it *IS* morally
as good . . . or did
you mean it is, as you wrote it here?
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On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 04:16:15PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:13:55 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated:
Why the heck did you ask for it, then?
Fair enough, because in your post dated: On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26
-0700, you make this remark: I think the statement was more like
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 09:54:46PM +, Peter Harrison wrote:
On 4 Jan 2012, at 21:26, Chad Perrin wrote:
Did you mean to say The keybinding is *not* quite as good . . . or did
you mean it is, as you wrote it here?
Perils of typing too fast.
Yes, I meant the keybinding
be used to deactivate the
hardware whitelisting somewhere out there on the Internet, as there is
for ThinkPads.
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not be
maintained) for xxxterm, and contributing patches to that effect, when I
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if this kind of off topic could be of interested to
the list so please feel free to answer me directly .
I think this is, in fact, on-topic for this list. It is a question
particular to FreeBSD, which is the point of the freebsd-questions
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, not a folder. :-)
After all, it doesn't fold (for that you need a little Haskell or OCaml).
Hmm. That was direct.
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. . . or provide the ability to select the old installer at boot time,
perhaps. Let's not turn this into a false dilemma; I don't see why we
can't have our cake and eat it too for a while.
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the benefit of the doubt, at
least at first. Perhaps the rhetoric can be scaled back a little bit in
this case. Has there been some response to your complaints that I have
not seen that justifies this level of heat?
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inconvenienced during installation, having to restart the
installation process more often when I made a misstep for instance. No
biggie, I guess. It's certainly not worth giving up being able to build
the whole base system with Clang instead of GCC to have sysinstall
instead of bsdinstall.
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 03:43:13PM +, RW wrote:
I was just wondering what would have happened if Apple hadn't backed
clang/LLVM as BSD licensed projects. Was there a plan B (other than
gcc 4.2.1) or did Apple save the *BSD world?
The backup plan was probably PCC.
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On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 05:09:52PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
On 01/22/12 17:02, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 03:43:13PM +, RW wrote:
I was just wondering what would have happened if Apple hadn't backed
clang/LLVM as BSD licensed projects. Was there a plan B (other than
gcc 4.2.1
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 07:06:04PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
On 01/22/12 17:45, Chad Perrin wrote:
A couple years ago, it looked like a race between PCC and TenDRA, but
Clang seemed to just come out of nowhere and steal all the attention.
All three of them had a lot to recommend them
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 05:37:48AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
There has been some talk of it being the GCC replacement for OpenBSD
and maybe even NetBSD, though I seem to recall Theo de Raadt doesn't
consider replacing GCC a very urgent requirement right now (which might
be part of the reason
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 10:55:18PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
On 01/22/12 22:37, Chad Perrin wrote:
PCC (Portable C Compiler), meanwhile, spent many years essentially unused
except in some of the dustier corners of Unix user communities before
being actively developed again as more and more
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. Four is probably a good number,
with a few less-central implementations floating around as well to
explore the fringes.
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look like intolerant elitists by
association with you in the minds of those who don't understand their
needs, just because you seem to agree with them.
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You talk a lot about how easy it is to maintain a binary package system.
I would like you to convince me that it is easy, keeping in mind that it
should remain compatible with the ports system. I am willing to be
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options, compiling for
different architectures is often actually a mutually-exclusive option
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don't have one handy, so I don't have any way to test this right now,
but I wonder if an AMD machine might give a different answer to one of
those than an Intel machine, given a 32-bit 386 instruction set processor
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involved. If you're leaning toward the
Python end of the spectrum, though, I (personally; your mileage may
differ) would probably choose Ruby instead.
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On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:09:13AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
always these complicated things. This is why life here is so much more
exiting.
We do not need sysctl.
I guess that depends on your definition of sysctl, and I rather like it.
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Plus.
It has been a little bit since I've dealt with these extensions, though,
because I started using another browser that offers things like plugin
and JavaScript whitelisting as a core feature. Take my memory of it for
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Has there been any movement toward getting BSD Unix systems running on
the Raspberry Pi platform? I've been searching for information along
those lines, but so far have seen nothing.
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On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 08:51:03AM +, Arthur Chance wrote:
On 03/07/12 21:40, Chad Perrin wrote:
If anyone has more information about planned BSD Unix ports to Raspberry
Pi, or comes up with more in the next few weeks, I'd appreciate it if
someone would let me know (perhaps with URIs
On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 11:11:53AM -0500, Jeremy Faulkner wrote:
The freebsd-arm@ list is where it is being discussed and progressing,
don't think anybody has the hardware yet.
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On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 03:48:17PM +, Arthur Chance wrote:
On 03/09/12 15:08, Bernt Hansson wrote:
2012-03-08 19:46, Chad Perrin skrev:
That helps me get sort of a timeline in mind, I think.
The production is halted.
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/781
The key sentence
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On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:14:39PM -0400, Allen wrote:
I'd like BeOS to come back, but I'm quite happy with BSD and Linux.
Give the Haiku project a look. It's meant to be some kind of inheritor
of the BeOS legacy.
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On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:20:03AM -0500, Chris wrote:
... One word that is rampant... Alligations
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to the Java maintainers at the FreeBSD project, of course.
They do a great job of making it possible to get working at all.)
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of the initial email to start this thread was to see if
there were people in the community with an interest in working on this
project, and might actually be a fairly logical step toward an effort to
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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 09:07:25AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
On 03/27/12 01:42, Chad Perrin wrote:
I think the point of the initial email to start this thread was to see if
there were people in the community with an interest in working on this
project, and might actually be a fairly logical step
around between TTY consoles?
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On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 03:54:03AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:48:34 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
I was thinking of mentioning the Happy Hacking keyboard, but I see you
beat me to it. I have not used one for more than a few minutes once,
though. Does the Fn+number work
is going to be much more of an
obstacle than using a QWERTY keyboard, considering you can hunt-and-peck
on a QWERTY keyboard, but you have to know the chords to do anything on a
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On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 04:24:51PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:19:54AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
I think learning a chording keyboard is going to be much more of an
obstacle than using a QWERTY keyboard, considering you can hunt-and-peck
on a QWERTY keyboard
or one of its enhanced brethren?
/usr/ports/www/w3m
/usr/ports/www/w3m-img
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is actually a good
recommendation for the design he suggests for the FreeBSD site.
Gawd, it's comically bad for something called the Design Council,
unless you take the name as an ironic reference to the idea that design
by committee is a horrible idea.
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else to give them a chance.
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On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:43:06PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:52:56 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:45:53PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
Generic skills aren't recognized because they're hard to judge and
test for. People want quantifiable
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:32:24AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:43:06PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:52:56 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:45:53PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
Generic skills aren't recognized because
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 01:57:10PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:32:24 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 06:43:06PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:52:56 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:45:53PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote
to change
his criteria to accommodate your skills.
Good job completely bypassing my actual statements to make a point about
something else entirely. Congratulations on your irrelevance.
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in the
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On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 02:33:29PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
Indeed -- and the employer who bucks this trend does him/her self a huge
service, because large numbers of very skilled and/or talented people are
being
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 08:01:13AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:36:13 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 06:00:51PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:33:29 -0700 David Brodbeck articulated:
Again, this is one of the reasons credit scoring
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:23:47PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:01:56 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 08:01:13AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:36:13 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 06:00:51PM -0400, Jerry wrote
as a physical dead tree format
book. Your mileage may vary, I suppose.
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give me some examples of the sorts of things you'd expect to find in the
table of contents that is lacking in the fourth edition but present in
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woefully incomplete, and the fourth edition text has for some reason
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their own
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installed, and none of this has anything to do
with corporate accounts or bulk purchases.
Yes, my evidence is anecdotal, but I think your notions of the frequency
of FreeBSD use other than in a corporate setting are also based on
anecdotal observations, so we're even.
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On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 06:26:16AM +, jb wrote:
Chinese advertising of soccer championship Euro 2012
http://avaxnews.com/wow/Chinese_Advertising_UEFA_Euro_2012.html
That . . . was nuts. What just happened?
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On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:59:46PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:11:11 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:23:20AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
It is fairly easy to understand both sides in this discussion. When
Microsoft supporters refer to open-source
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 02:46:49PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:44:11 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:59:46PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
Your paranoia is kicking in again isn't it Chad. Anyway, to address
your sports analogy, if I walk into a NY City bar
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 04:53:11PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
. . .
You obviously aren't serious. I can't believe I let you string me along
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power, does have an impact.
No power conditioning (implied by no UPS) is nothing to brag about.
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On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:47:55PM +, David Brodbeck wrote:
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
No power conditioning (implied by no UPS) is nothing to brag about.
If your utility power is very -- common now in places with buried
utilities -- a UPS
required only about 20% to 30% of
the time. Otherwise, the warning and error messages tend to get me a lot
closer to the actual point of failure than GCC.
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phrasing you prefer when referring to the crazies who believe using
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This is what happens when you use a more standards-compliant compiler:
you get more stable and predictable behavior.
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with that one.
their problem.
No -- it's their solution. It would be a problem only if the previous
statement said and they are *not* fine with that one.
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is *not* plugged in. From the sound of the request,
that is the use case the orignial querent in this thread had in mind as
well.
Your tip could well be useful for some use cases, though.
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difference is . . . negligible
I'm pretty sure he's not running compute clusters on FreeBSD, after all.
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* blue, and he can take his bucket of red paint home
with him to paint his *own* bikeshed.
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, probably either the Simplified BSD License or the MIT/X11
License).
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divest ourselves of GNU tools (including GCC) the
better off we will probably be (though I would still advocate a measured
approach to replacing GNU tools, rather than a headlong rush without any
forethought).
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Related (perhaps somewhat indirectly):
Advancement Through License Simplicity
http://univacc.net/?page=license_simplicity
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with problematic licensing restrictions as stupid and obsessed.
That's not very nice (or accurate).
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, then proclaim everyone else at
fault for the fact you cannot see past your nose to note that the whole
world does not revolve around some dubious benchmarks.
I doubt you're convincing anyone of anything you seem to think we should
all accept as gospel.
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