Testing - my emails don't seem to be getting through

2008-10-15 Thread Da Rock
I've been getting a lot of rejections: Helo command rejected: Host not found (in reply to RCPT TO command). So now I'm running a test to see if this one will get through. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-15 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 10:52 -0400, Mikel King wrote: On Oct 8, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Chad Marshall wrote: No Problem, I figured that there are other systems out there with a longer uptime. I have this server as a postfix/courier-imap/

Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-15 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 10:03 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Thursday, October 09, 2008 09:34:02 -0500 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:07:31AM -0700, Chad Marshall wrote:

Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-15 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 07:50 -0700, Chad Marshall wrote: Here's what I said to the last guy who says my skin is thin, just leave well enough alone and drop it please. Seems your skin is thin as well if you can't handle a little back talk :)

Excuse me- just testing...

2008-10-15 Thread Da Rock
Been having trouble posting with a new mail server (only to your server mind)- just trying sort it out. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system

2008-10-15 Thread Da Rock
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 06:46 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 04:55:11AM -0400, Michael Powell wrote: [snip] Next, you will want to configure your FreeBSD machine as a NAT gateway. In your /etc/rc.conf you will want something like

Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-15 Thread Da Rock
I love the direction this thread has taken. First, humorous, then it will turn into flames. I bet all my US$:-) Unfortunately that doesn't really offer much value anymore with the recent market downturn- got anything else to

Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system

2008-10-15 Thread Da Rock
Unless the question is as broad as 'how do I learn about FreeBSD' it is worthwhile to help the person aim that shotgun or exchange it for a rifle. Interesting analogy- I like it :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system

2008-10-15 Thread Da Rock
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 04:10 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 08:40:48PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 06:46 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 04:55:11AM -0400, Michael Powell wrote: [snip] Next

Virtual mail and mailman

2008-10-15 Thread Da Rock
Before I go off rashly and join another mailing list or two, might I enquire here regarding the difference between virtual alias' and virtual mailboxes from mailman's point of view? I've been googling, but I'm as confused as ever... What I have is vmailboxes on postfix (with a courier frontend)

Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system

2008-10-15 Thread Da Rock
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 21:19 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:15:49AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 04:10 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 08:40:48PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 06:46 -0400, Michael Powell

Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system

2008-10-16 Thread Da Rock
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 22:22 -0700, mdh wrote: --- On Thu, 10/16/08, Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thursday, October

Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system

2008-10-16 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 06:54 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: Da Rock wrote: [snip] I'm assuming the problem with double nat'ing is the confusion in packet traffic. So if the OP is using his ADSL modem to connect to the net, then it could be safe to assume the public IP would

Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system

2008-10-16 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 04:43 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 09:29:04PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 06:54 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: Da Rock wrote: [snip] I'm assuming the problem with double nat'ing is the confusion in packet

Messenger servers

2008-11-07 Thread Da Rock
I haven't checked the list for around a week- I'm still catching up! :) I'm trying to sort out a messenger server for work purposes, and although I've found a few I'm hoping some input from sysadmins who have deployed these might help our decision. I've found Gale, Jabberd2, OpenFire, and SJECS

Re: (no subject)

2008-11-07 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 19:45 -0500, SAM HAYNES wrote: Greetings, O Learned Ones from: Sam Haynes, Pathfinders 2008 I haven't the foggiest as to how you came to be in my favorites list, other than that I probably tagged you in an ongoing search for both or either something to replace Win

Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-08 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 09:33 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:52:08PM -0800, Mike Price wrote: Hello guys, Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible. You could try the gimp for

Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-08 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 10:26 +0100, Roland Smith wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 09:33:36AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:52:08PM -0800, Mike Price wrote: Hello guys, Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? I would like to move to

Re: Question on creating a video server

2008-11-08 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 10:40 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Hi All, OK, I'm just asking for opinions here on some application software. Like most people we have a nice big 21 TV set that will be obsolete in Feb. I have been thinking about replacing this with a big screen TV set but

Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-09 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 12:44 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible. You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating vector images, try either inkscape

Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-09 Thread Da Rock
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 12:16 +0100, Jos Chrispijn wrote: Uit een eerder bericht (9-11-2008 4:43): That has been known to work, but not without some serious hacking. One major problem is the software needs administrative access, so you need to copy the registry from a working windows to the

Re: Question on creating a video server

2008-11-09 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 22:09 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Has anyone done this with FreeBSD and open source software, and has recommendations on what hardware to get and what software works with it? mplayer play video files fine. no idea about HDTV tunes Mplayer works great, so does

Re: Kerberos keytab

2008-11-10 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 07:18 -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: Does anyone know what is the actual purpose of the Kerberos krb5.keytab file? I have a freebsd 7 configured to authenticate users via Kerberos (both apache and ssh). Although the authentication between apache and browser

Re: Kerberos keytab

2008-11-10 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 14:17 +0100, Mel wrote: On Monday 10 November 2008 13:53:41 Da Rock wrote: Check the kerberos site for further, more accurate info, and run a google search for browser kerberos auth with apache. You do need the right module for apache to achieve this though

Re: re changing from vista

2008-11-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 11:58 +0100, peter wrote: Dear sirs please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from windows vista but i cannot understand which system to use i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software kind regards Peter Welcome to

Re: re changing from vista

2008-11-16 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 16:39 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 08:00:23AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 11:58 +0100, peter wrote: Dear sirs please can you help me i am totally confused i want

Re: re changing from vista

2008-11-17 Thread Da Rock
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 11:38 -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: * Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-14 14:56:26 -0800]: opinion But why are we interested in converting people? That borders on religious, which an operating system should not be. I'm not saying we don't need new users

Re: re changing from vista

2008-11-17 Thread Da Rock
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 11:54 -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: * Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-16 15:21:27 +1000]: The reason for sending the OP to linux first is they will not be deterred by the driver and hardware issues. Linux IS easier in this way, and has a greater support

Re: re changing from vista

2008-11-17 Thread Da Rock
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 22:53 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Still it goes, the OP is trying to get away from MS-Win, not find some non-MS clone in EVERY such post i see exactly opposite. they want windoze clones! they don't ask about how to learn unix, what to read, they didn't read even

Re: re changing from vista

2008-11-17 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 10:23 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Try ReactOS- it's exactly that. I think its a version of Wine on steroids... does it really work - i mean all (or most at least) programs work. can user simply put say - M$ Office CD/DVD and click setup? if yes - they

Re: re changing from vista

2008-11-17 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 10:40 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: ReactOS is somewhat of a joke at this point. I've personally tried it, and I cannot see how it can be taken seriously until its cleaned up and made much more user-friendly. There's also been some developer drama in recent days,

Re: mod_auth_ldap

2008-11-19 Thread Da Rock
On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 06:32 +0100, Peter Boosten wrote: Hi all, Anyone try to compile this one? It stops with a www/mod_auth_ldap (missing header) The header it cannot find is: mod_auth_ldap.c:61:24: error: apr_compat.h: No such file or directory And it's right: the file indeed

Re: [OT] printing question

2008-11-19 Thread Da Rock
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 10:49 -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: Time to buy a new printer. I don't print much from FreeBSD; but the need occasionally arises. Most of my printing is done while using Mac OS X. The Epson Artisan 800 is looking awfully nice; but it's not in the Linux printing database

Re: mod_auth_ldap

2008-11-19 Thread Da Rock
On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 10:43 +0100, Peter Boosten wrote: Da Rock wrote: On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 06:32 +0100, Peter Boosten wrote: Hi all, Anyone try to compile this one? It stops with a www/mod_auth_ldap (missing header) The header it cannot find is: mod_auth_ldap.c:61:24

APIC error

2008-11-27 Thread Da Rock
This is occurring on a linux system, but from my investigations it wouldn't be limited to just this OS. Therefore, I come seeking wisdom from some real gurus... only kidding. But the collective experience here in sysadmin is greater than the experience of desktop users found on linux lists. I

Re: APIC error

2008-11-27 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 14:32 +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: Da Rock wrote: I know the system is failing because I'm getting usb enumeration errors (something that has come up twice before on dying systems, and has disappeared as soon as I bought a new one), plus acpi errors in the form

Re: APIC error

2008-11-27 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 15:23 +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: Da Rock wrote: Would this be in the cpu itself or in the mainboard (best guess)? If its the cpu it could be from overheating (could the cpu alone cause all these errors?), but mainboard would mean an inherent communication problem

Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC?

2008-12-01 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 14:22 +, RW wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:54:38 -0800 Harry Veltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which version and GUI will work best on the internet with my AT Pentium II 350MHz x86-based PC? Some web sites require Flash Player 8 or higher, If flash is

Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC?

2008-12-01 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 15:42 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: If flash is important to you then I'd suggest you run windows firefox under wine. Native Adobe Flash support is apparently working again in isn't better to run windows ? That'd be debatable, wouldn't it?

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-03 Thread Da Rock
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 11:39 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 11:17:40AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:56:44 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If FreeBSD is to put on the system as only operating system (Fdisk: A = Use Entire

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-04 Thread Da Rock
On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 20:55 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: Da Rock writes: Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. 1) It IS possible to boot from a dedicated disk? Yes. Can't remember the last time I used anything else. So you've never booted from a disk

FreeBSD 7.0 problems

2008-12-04 Thread Da Rock
I have just installed FreeBSD 7.0 on a laptop I just cleaned up. It used to run Fedora linux (I have a tv card which used to work on it, but now I can't get the drivers to work again), and it got very cluttered and started getting issues. The hardware is fine though- it just returned from

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-04 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 10:49 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 12:57:45PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 20:55 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: Da Rock writes: Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. 1) It IS possible

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-10 Thread Da Rock
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 08:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: snip IMHO, before FreeBSD can make a significant market share improvement, it has to improve its hardware support. NVidia, for one, has expressed a desire to support FreeBSD; however, it needs the FreeBSD organization to improve its basic

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-11 Thread Da Rock
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 12:14 -0800, prad wrote: On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 20:35:17 +0100 Uwe Laverenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is most freebsd users? i would think most are interested in running servers or routers or possible scientific applications or engaged in os study and appreciate

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 20:04 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: than not you discourage beginners from getting interested in this i don't discourage beginners that want to learn. Most of them don't. You remind me of a tech I once worked with who thought all customers were stupid. Maybe they

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 14:25 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 03:02:28PM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:32:59 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: NVidia MUST INCLUDE full documentation of their hardware. this is normal -

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 13:05 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:46:55AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I honestly have no idea what you are trying to communicate here. exactly what i wrote. the problem is that people like You (and millions others) are willing to buy

Re: USB Flash Drives

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 01:59 -0700, fixer wrote: FreeBSD localhost 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 r...@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 localhost# I just discovered flash drives. They are very easy to use on Windows. I don't

Re: Centralized DB of system users

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 09:48 +0200, Valentin Bud wrote: Hello list, I don't know if the Subject says what i really want to achieve but i do hope that i will make myself understood. I work for a school and i want to install in 2 labs on very low performance computers (1 Ghz CPU, 126 Mb

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
If we want FreeBSD to grow to where vendors pick up obscure and not-so-obscure devices and support it more than it is now, we need publicity. If we need publicity, we need marketing types. If we need marketing types, we need to pay them, and we need to put up with them, and even be nice

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 09:32 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 08:46:49PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 08:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: snip IMHO, before FreeBSD can make a significant market share improvement, it has to improve its hardware support

Re: Centralized DB of system users

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 10:08 +0100, Michel Talon wrote: Lowell Gilbert wrote: NIS, which stands for Network Information Services, was developed by Sun Microsystems to centralize administration of UNIX (originally SunOS) systems. It has now essentially become an industry standard;

Plan9

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
Hope this deosn't upset the purists... I literally stumbled on a reference to plan9 in the freebsd ports- completely by accident, mind- and so I ran a search for what it was on google. I found an article on wikipedia and from there a link to download the latest iso. Unfortunately the .iso.gz is

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 18:46 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 04:47:23PM -0800, prad wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:11:25 -0700 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: His manner of expressing his feelings seems to be to try to crush others' beneath his heel. Try

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 02:44 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: obstinate refusal to open specs is the short-sightedness and general ignorance of daycoders and pointy-haired bosses -- all of whom think Java is the best programming language around because that's what most programmers use and have some

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 10:37 -0800, prad wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:51:22 +1000 Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au wrote: The possibility here is the bells and whistles strangely enough DO work in tune and without sore lips... FreeBSD could be THAT good. i'm not so sure

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 22:46 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I mean seriously, has this helped anything at all? no. all i want is to stop all stupid topics about: - KDE/Gnome/other crap (or great things for somebody) BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF FREEBSD. FreeBSD has nothing to this, except

Re: iwi config help

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 11:29 +, AN wrote: I'm trying to configure a wireless adapter on an IBM Thinkpad R51, and need some help. I followed the iwi man page, but the card is not recognized. I have the following in /boot/loader.conf: cat /boot/loader.conf if_iwi_load=YES

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 19:15 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: cropping up and saying the equivalent of If we work on that stuff, FreeBSD will just become MS Windows, and it'll suck. I disagree with because linux got exactly that way and it sucks now. Its better at providing window$

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 21:35 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: NVidia MUST INCLUDE full documentation of their hardware. this is normal - hardware manufacturer produces hardware, programmers do make support for it. what is common today isn't normal. I honestly have no idea what you are

Re: Centralized DB of system users

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 17:59 +0700, Outback Dingo wrote: Wouldn't kerberos be a better alternative? One server (maybe a replicated backup), and all services authenticate with that. Saves shadow on the wire... I think the ulitimate question is going to be at what level of pain does the

Re: (no subject)

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 15:47 +0330, abedini wrote: Hi all dear I have laptop acer 4220 and I need to install FreeBSD. This laptop have sata HDD how can install FreeBSD in this system. If you have the iso for freebsd on cd you can simply boot from the cd and follow the bouncing ball

Firebird client fails port install

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
I'm trying to install php5-extensions (which includes firebird), but its failing with an error code 1 on firebird20-client. It does mention running make to build firebird, but not as root. So I've tried everything to get this to work: running make as my wheel group user, installing as a pkg

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-14 Thread Da Rock
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 23:53 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 02:50:00PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 14:25 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: I think he's trying to say that open source drivers would be preferable, and to develop them we'd need the hardware

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 12:54 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Most of them don't. Considering that, the moment someone shows up and says I'm a Windows user, but I'm thinking about trying out FreeBSD, you immediately assume the person doesn't want to learn without bothering to read any

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Da Rock
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 19:21 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:39:26AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: Hence why I tend to send really green unix newbies to linux school than grind their teeth on FreeBSD straight up. Let em get their skills and experience in how *nix in general

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 02:16 -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Unfortunately, anything covered by a patent, as I hinted above, is verboten. Er, doesn't it depend on what is patented? If the h/w itself is patented, but its software-visible interface is not, there should be no problem

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 12:49 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I think that can be handled quite easily by community social pressure, and moderation would just set a precedent for it's someone else's job. moderation is needed. Things like community social pressure simply doesn't. Like with

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 02:11 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 05:11:00PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: But if I remember my legal and ethics course correctly if you can arrive at a conclusion through your own research then your reasonably clear. For example, the drivers

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 13:49 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I think the list you're looking for when you talk about only discussing the base-system already exists (probably stable or arch). This is freebsd questions- and the nature of the list according to the all-knowing handbook IS for

Re: Firebird client fails port install

2008-12-15 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 14:29 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes: I'm trying to install php5-extensions (which includes firebird), but its failing with an error code 1 on firebird20-client. It does mention running make to build firebird

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 13:43 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 02:16:34AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Unfortunately, anything covered by a patent, as I hinted above, is verboten. Er, doesn't it depend on what is patented? If the h/w itself is patented, but

Re: Firebird client fails port install

2008-12-15 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 15:49 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes: On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 14:29 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes: I'm trying to install php5-extensions (which includes firebird), but its

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 13:47 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:27:30PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: If you have done your own research then the algorithms wouldn't necessarily be the same- they'd nearly certainly be different, wouldn't they? So isn't that the basis

Re: Firebird client fails port install

2008-12-15 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 16:49 -0500, Mark Moellering wrote: Da Rock wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 15:49 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au writes: On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 14:29 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Da Rock rock_on_the_

Re: Firebird client fails port install

2008-12-15 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 23:46 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: As a matter of fact I never use true root I ALWAYS use su (believe it or what's a practical difference between logging to root directly or doing su? The log files log exactly who did what instead of anonymously. At the least they

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-15 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 16:23 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 07:07:36AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 13:43 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 02:16:34AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Unfortunately, anything covered by a patent, as I

Re: i686 CPU Compatibility

2008-12-16 Thread Da Rock
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 17:00 +0800, Abd Hamid Shamsi wrote: HI ADMIN, I just want to ask, is this freeBSD compatible with my i686 CPU. if there any, please advice me what version should i use. TQ Should do - i386 is just for arch type. I believe 7.0 is the latest current release.

Re: Optimising pxeboot disk size

2008-12-16 Thread Da Rock
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 15:02 +0100, Bernard Dugas wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: i already did such things but with NetBSD 1.5 for my Xterminal distro. it's simple: More simple when you tell it ;-) Thanks a lot, i will try it tonight ! I wish it's helpful, doing this doesn't just save

Re: Publishing information via DNS

2008-12-17 Thread Da Rock
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 19:07 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Someone needs to invent and promote a TextualDatagramPublicationProtocol or TDPP because DNS has been abused for publishing non DNS data for too long. Continuing to use DNS for things it was never intended to do will only cloud

Re: linux_base question

2008-12-18 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 09:07 +0100, Mel wrote: On Thursday 18 December 2008 04:03:45 Chris wrote: I'm trying to keep all FreeBSD servers in my net as I have since the late 90s. I have a requirement to get a quickbooks enterprise server running so I was going to attempt to use compat_linux.

Re: Suitability question

2008-12-18 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 16:46 -0500, Glen Barber wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Patrick Baldwin patrick.bald...@studsvik.com wrote: Usually I'm asking questions for work related things. This one is more personal. My father has this tendency to end up wrecking his computer if he

[Fwd: Re: Sun sucks]

2009-01-15 Thread Da Rock
---BeginMessage--- On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 03:47 +, RW wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:10:10 -0500 Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com wrote: After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3

[Fwd: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager]

2009-01-15 Thread Da Rock
---BeginMessage--- On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 21:44 -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: Grant Peel wrote: Can I use a windows install cd's R option to do the fdisk /mbr ? I don't know. It's been $years since I've had to use a Windows install CD for such a thing. If it's win32, my experience

[Fwd: Re: programs...]

2009-01-15 Thread Da Rock
---BeginMessage--- What about Miro? On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 23:19 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 08:43:09AM -0600, David Kelly wrote: On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 11:03:29PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: Guys, I've going to give away what I think could be at least a

[Fwd: Re: Cannot get ethernet off the ground]

2009-01-15 Thread Da Rock
---BeginMessage--- On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 18:07 +0100, Roland Smith wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 08:08:16PM -0500, William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: I'm afraid it's gone from bad to worse. The 7.1 system may have recognised the ethernet adapter, but it seemed to fail writing to the

[Fwd: Re: FreeBSD USB Install]

2009-01-15 Thread Da Rock
---BeginMessage--- On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 14:11 -0200, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: Hello I notice that when you write zeros to the first sectors of the pen drive it gets mad about it and you must make fsck and disklabel TWICE... the first time, it complains, the second time it works

[Fwd: age0 driver power issues - device_attach error 6]

2009-01-15 Thread Da Rock
---BeginMessage--- I'm getting issues similar to what others have seen in the pre-release 7.1. I'm using the release version because it supposedly has this driver, but the issue is when I'm on battery it'll work and load the driver, on ac forget it. Its on a laptop with an iwn device so I'm in

[Fwd: iwn driver on 7.1]

2009-01-15 Thread Da Rock
---BeginMessage--- I've tried the driver on 7.0- 8.0 current is out of the question as it still doesn't fully function either- but I'm trying to sort out 7.1 (might as well, I have many other issues to work out so I might as well fix them on this :) ). The driver patches compiles (iwn-7 from

[Fwd: USB problem during install]

2009-01-15 Thread Da Rock
---BeginMessage--- I was just running a check to see if I could install FreeBSD on my tv server and check the driver situation, but the cdboot failed with a usb issue- address not found. This occurred for 7.1, 7.0, and even 6.4. In my search I found many different reasons why it could be, but

[Fwd: est1 device_attach error 6]

2009-01-15 Thread Da Rock
---BeginMessage--- Similar to the age0 problem in my previous post the enhanced speed step on this laptop on the second core of the cpu has the same problem- athough this doesn't appear to be power related (ac or battery that is). Where does this place the issue- acpi? ---End Message---

Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-16 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 21:44 -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: Grant Peel wrote: Can I use a windows install cd's R option to do the fdisk /mbr ? I don't know. It's been $years since I've had to use a Windows install CD for such a thing. If it's win32, my experience would have me recommend

Re: Sun sucks

2009-01-16 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 03:47 +, RW wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:10:10 -0500 Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com wrote: After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get

est1 device_attach error 6

2009-01-16 Thread Da Rock
Similar to the age0 problem in my previous post the enhanced speed step on this laptop on the second core of the cpu has the same problem- athough this doesn't appear to be power related (ac or battery that is). Where does this place the issue- acpi?

Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-16 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind

iwn driver on 7.1

2009-01-16 Thread Da Rock
I've tried the driver on 7.0- 8.0 current is out of the question as it still doesn't fully function either- but I'm trying to sort out 7.1 (might as well, I have many other issues to work out so I might as well fix them on this :) ). The driver patches compiles (iwn-7 from gavin), but when I load

Re: programs...

2009-01-16 Thread Da Rock
What about Miro? On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 23:19 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 08:43:09AM -0600, David Kelly wrote: On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 11:03:29PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: Guys, I've going to give away what I think could be at least a multi-thousand

USB problem during install

2009-01-16 Thread Da Rock
I was just running a check to see if I could install FreeBSD on my tv server and check the driver situation, but the cdboot failed with a usb issue- address not found. This occurred for 7.1, 7.0, and even 6.4. In my search I found many different reasons why it could be, but they were several years

Re: Cannot get ethernet off the ground

2009-01-16 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 18:07 +0100, Roland Smith wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 08:08:16PM -0500, William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: I'm afraid it's gone from bad to worse. The 7.1 system may have recognised the ethernet adapter, but it seemed to fail writing to the hard drive. I got

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